Interim manager discussion: Who replaces the interim interim manger (Carrick)?

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Tom Van Persie

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Not read the report but utdreport have been guilty of misreporting information before, as like many have said, they don't make sense as interim.
I've read the article. Can confirm that those names were mentioned.
 

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And so the cycle ( I avoided the use of the "wheel" in the metaphor, for obvious reasons ) of managerial life continues.
To make it less traumatic. They do a good job and get to manage Portugal, Inter, AC, Atletico etc.
 

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And so the cycle ( I avoided the use of the "wheel" in the metaphor, for obvious reasons ) of managerial life continues.
Yeah, until I actually see a sexual Tyrannosaurus sitting in our dugout as manager I expect us to just keep lurching from one dud manager to the next.
 

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Because if they do a good job they could easily secure the job.
Define easily. Will they trigger an automatic 3 year contract when they reach top 6 or such? Then ok, but then they're not hired as pure interim managers. Without some sort of guarantee or perspective, no way people in a good job would give it up, you see already managers that are unemployed being wary of the interim role.
 

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It won't achieve anything. It's simply that Ole's position had become untenable.

The board's hand was forced by the circumstances. Hence why we now have mulitple mega-threads debating potential replacements, since there are no obvious candidates. People wanted 'Ole Out' before they'd even stopped to consider 'Somebody Else In'. That's why most calmer heads were urging the club to wait for as long as possible.

Any fix will come, hopefully, with the interim manager. And then after that, even more hopefully, with the permanent manager.

I've said elsewhere that we're currently undergoing a one step backwards, two steps forwards process. Carrick is the one step backwards.
Agree with this.
 

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considering this season is almost a write off, I'd get someone who's worked extensively under Klopp or Pep. What happened to that Buvac guy who claimed he was the brains behind Klopps success?.Klopp has gone on to win the lot after he left so he might have been exaggerating his role but I don't see why we can't take the risk with someone like that who should be technically sound but lacks some other aspects of being a manager if we are looking simply for an interim.
 
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considering this season is almost a write off, I'd get someone who's worked extensively under Klopp or Pep. What happened to that Buvac guy who claimed he was the brains behind Klopps success?.Klopp has gone on to win the lot after he left so he might have been exaggerating his role but I don't see why we can't take the risk with someone like that who should be technically sound but lacks some other aspects of being a manager if we are looking simply for an interim.
Arteta? :drool:

Assistants of great managers are always a sure fire option, see Kiddo, McLaren, Carlos Q, Mickey Shorts.
 

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Arteta? :drool:

Assistants of great managers are always a sure fire option, see Kiddo, McLaren, Carlos Q, Mickey Shorts.
Yeah but I'd take them over Fletcher any day. Plus I think coaching has gotten a lot more technical since then so, good assistants might have something to offer especially compared to ex players with zero experience.
 

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We have a lame duck interim-interim to be followed by an interim. So it is down tools time for the players until at least the end of the season. This all could get a lot worse.
I'd agree on Carrick etc, it doesn't inspire confidence but hopefully that's just for a game or two and the players can pull something out of the bag.

But the interim might not be bad. It's always going to be an uphill struggle with an interim manager because clearly you're not getting the best but we are getting a new face with a new take and that might be enough to at least get into the top 4. I think that has to be the realistic aim now, as unexciting as that is, in order to give the next manager a platform.
 

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considering this season is almost a write off, I'd get someone who's worked extensively under Klopp or Pep. What happened to that Buvac guy who claimed he was the brains behind Klopps success?.Klopp has gone on to win the lot after he left so he might have been exaggerating his role but I don't see why we can't take the risk with someone like that who should be technically sound but lacks some other aspects of being a manager if we are looking simply for an interim.
Last I checked he was DoF at some Moscow club, I think? Funnily, so is Rangnick. Seems to be the place people go who are embittered about not getting big enough managerial jobs for themselves.
 

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How about Paul McShane? Isn't he coaching the under 23s?
 

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It won't achieve anything. It's simply that Ole's position had become untenable.

The board's hand was forced by the circumstances. Hence why we now have mulitple mega-threads debating potential replacements, since there are no obvious candidates. People wanted 'Ole Out' before they'd even stopped to consider 'Somebody Else In'. That's why most calmer heads were urging the club to wait for as long as possible.

Any fix will come, hopefully, with the interim manager. And then after that, even more hopefully, with the permanent manager.

I've said elsewhere that we're currently undergoing a one step backwards, two steps forwards process. Carrick is the one step backwards.
The calmer heads that wanted to stick with Ole as opposed to the reckless fans that wanted him sacked for Conte or even Tuchel last season?

Just because the club is unable to sack at the right time (say, the international break) and find a better interim than Carrick doesn't mean it's not possible.
 

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Indeed.

If EPL was less competitive like it was in 90s, plus far form being best league in the world, Man Utd would have snatched a couple of PL trophies despite not looking great.

I'm sure most Man Utd fans would rather have a way less competitive league and win 7 PL trophies in 10 years than have the best and richest league in the world but snatching like 0 or 1 PL in ten years.
Bayern Munich is the most marketable team outside of Germany, the 50+1 benefits them massively, since it blocks shady oil money from creating new challengers for them.
Exactly right. Oil money, as far as the neutral fan is concerned, creates a more competitive league - after all, the guys at the top (us, Liverpool) have, what, 50 years of growth behind us. It catapults what would have been trivial and pathetic challengers into supposed titans - admittedly without any of the gravitas or actual sense of tradition or fans actually showing up to games. Bayern are an example (in my opinion) of what Manchester United WOULD be if the likes of City, Newcastle and Chelsea hadn't been 'chosen' to become the playthings of sheikh's and KGB agents laundering their ill gotten Russian oil money. 50+1 would have kept us at the top, but at the possible cost of the Premier League itself being the insane superleague it's becoming now.
 

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Rooney has less coaching experience than Carrick.

WTF are some people thinking?
 

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Would it be possible to get the manager of a national team as an interim ?

I remember when Chelsea got Hiddink while he was the Russia manager.
 

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It has to be a senior manager at the end of his career who can get instant buy in and respect from the squad. If you hire a younger up and comer, you end up in the same conundrum as Ole if he does well. I can see Wenger taking it, he’s been itching to coach for a while and go out on his own terms. The relationship with the club has gotten much nicer over the years, once Arsenal ceased being a threat.
 

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Would it be possible to get the manager of a national team as an interim ?

I remember when Chelsea got Hiddink while he was the Russia manager.
Who is the USA manager? Maybe the Glazers could sort something like Abramovich did for Chelsea.
 

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It has to be a senior manager at the end of his career who can get instant buy in and respect from the squad. If you hire a younger up and comer, you end up in the same conundrum as Ole if he does well. I can see Wenger taking it, he’s been itching to coach for a while and go out on his own terms. The relationship with the club has gotten much nicer over the years, once Arsenal ceased being a threat.
I’d be absolutely chuffed to bits with Wenger. To be honest I’d rather him over half of the permanent managers we’ve been linked with.
 

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I've honestly no idea why we sacked ole if the there was no plan for hiring someone else. Give it Gary til t'end of season?
 

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No way Wenger will be involved. His legacy is with arsenal.
 

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Rooney with Carrick as No.2 could work. I’ld be happy with that.
 

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It has to be a senior manager at the end of his career who can get instant buy in and respect from the squad. If you hire a younger up and comer, you end up in the same conundrum as Ole if he does well. I can see Wenger taking it, he’s been itching to coach for a while and go out on his own terms. The relationship with the club has gotten much nicer over the years, once Arsenal ceased being a threat.
This is my thinking. Someone who's either retired or who's near the end. They have to have won trophies so the players instantly respect them. So it reduces the chances of it becoming permanent and everyone knows the score.
 
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