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He is a really good Manager. There are two real Candidates here Poch Or Ten Haag. People are right in saying Ten Haag is a really exciting young Manager How can you not love his style? However he does this with Ajax players who are coached all the way through to play a certain way and fit that system well . Would that work at United ? Possibly but it would take alot of time . With Poch I think we will see success . He is a bloody good Manager and We have a bloody good squad I think he could get us balanced very quickly and light a fire under our Team that looks to be phoning it in . In my opinion Both would be great but for different reasons , But either way we would have a coach with a plan and direction.
 

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Doesn't anyone find it concerning that PSG are all too willing to let him go? Their idea of resistance is currently a paper towel.
 

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Doesn't anyone find it concerning that PSG are all too willing to let him go? Their idea of resistance is currently a paper towel.
Not really. Look at their managerial record. They want a new toy to play with.
 

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Doesn't anyone find it concerning that PSG are all too willing to let him go? Their idea of resistance is currently a paper towel.
They've fired Ancelotti, Blanc, Emery and Tuchel, despite winning leagues and playing good football for the most part. As long as Zidane is on the market they'd let Fergie go.
 

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Doesn't anyone find it concerning that PSG are all too willing to let him go? Their idea of resistance is currently a paper towel.
He has been okay there. With the squad he has, the performances should be a lot more convincing, which is probably why they think another manager could do better. There are most likely external factors, politics etc. involved though tbf.
 

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Was just scrolling through it. Loads of posts about Qatar, stuff about Ronaldo, Messi and PSG, then random posts laying into Pochettino whenever he feels like it.
I don't think that he is serious with his tweets, he just shares his feelings which is refreshing when you consider who he is. :lol:
 

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Nope, I wanted him even back then. I'm trying to remember who else I wanted. Pep was the dream but gone, Poch was my 1st choice out of everyone else, and I think Pellegrini was up there, too. I was a big fan of his 12/13 Malaga side so I was gutted when he went to City.
 

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Is he literally just going to stay in Manchester and not get the flight back to Paris haha
 

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That was one season. Over the following 3 seasons the other teams in the top 4 were City, Chelsea, Liverpool, United.
And there was always a big spending team that fell away and left a top 4 spot open for the lesser spending sides?
 

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He has been okay there. With the squad he has, the performances should be a lot more convincing, which is probably why they think another manager could do better. There are most likely external factors, politics etc. involved though tbf.
Not to mention one of the biggest twats in football plays there.
 

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Yeah, it's only a matter of time now unless we somehow feck it up. Would be a great choice as manager. We don't need the best manager in the world, just someone who is flexible and can drill these players hard to prepare for the next match. Hopefully the players react the right way, as a couple of Poch's ex players have said he was a bit of a drill sergeant and they hated him for it, but we'll certainly find out soon enough.
 

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£427m is more than £412, not a lot more, but definitely more and is a lot of money, which was my whole point entirely.
Sorry for jumping in - but the former number is what Spurs spent under Poch, correct?

If so, the difference - the relevant difference, I mean - is (obviously) dramatic:

Transfer spend per (available) transfer window:

Poch (2014-2019): 39M

Ole (2019-2021): 69M
 

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He is a really good Manager. There are two real Candidates here Poch Or Ten Haag. People are right in saying Ten Haag is a really exciting young Manager How can you not love his style? However he does this with Ajax players who are coached all the way through to play a certain way and fit that system well . Would that work at United ? Possibly but it would take alot of time . With Poch I think we will see success . He is a bloody good Manager and We have a bloody good squad I think he could get us balanced very quickly and light a fire under our Team that looks to be phoning it in . In my opinion Both would be great but for different reasons , But either way we would have a coach with a plan and direction.
Agree and he’s far more used to working in a more disorganized structure. He’s doing it at PSG and he did it at Spurs in terms of funding. I always loved Poch and think he would be great at United. Also, love the fact everyone is talking about Ten Hag as a young manager compared to past it Poch. Isn’t Poch younger? Small point cause it’s not about age. Just find it funnny.
 

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Doesn't anyone find it concerning that PSG are all too willing to let him go? Their idea of resistance is currently a paper towel.
Nope, nothing that PSG says or does or happens with them should be used as any barometer or indication of things to come. They were happy to hound Tuchel out of there, yet he seems to have done fine since then. The club is a circus.
 

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I love how everyone is enamoured by the “young and exciting” Ten Hag who happens to be 2 years older than Poch. :lol:

Let’s hope we have Poch wrapped up by the end of the week!
 

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They'll naturally be a purple patch if and when Poch arrives but one thing I evidently remember was how it took Spurs atlteast a campaign to get going under him consistently. I remember the football at the start of his reign being fully based on worth ethic, the style itself was ugly and patchy.
Yeah didn't he make all the Spurs players lose weight and increase their fitness levels?

But didn't Ole already do that to our squad in his first Summer in charge?

Something about us covering the least distance in the PL under Jose and Ole wanted to get the squad to a higher intensity. And that resulted in an increase in muscle injuries in his first proper season, as the players were adapting.

I might have dreamt all this.
 

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Doesn't anyone find it concerning that PSG are all too willing to let him go? Their idea of resistance is currently a paper towel.
Yes if they were doing badly. But they’re way ahead in the league and beat Man City. Can someone explain to me how Poch is failing at PSG? Are results hiding performances, like Ole last season? Or are people just pissed cause they’re not winning every game 8-0. All I see is Poch just failing to win the league in his first season after taking over from Tuchel. PSG sound like an absolute nightmare to manage. Egos in the dressing room on another level to Utd, plus Leonardo and the owners. I’m sure there’s no resistance cause Zidane is a brand new toy. 3 champions leagues, one of the greatest ever players and a French idol. Why would they ever be worried about ditching Poch if they’re replacing him with him? He’s the equivalent of Messi as a manager.
 

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And there was always a big spending team that fell away and left a top 4 spot open for the lesser spending sides?
That's a different argument. I was talking about whether he spent a lot of money. He didn't.

In terms of the competition, there was certainly more flux than 10 years previously when the top 4 was very settled. On the other hand, City had joined up as a big team and then there were 5 big teams vying for 4 spots, so the mid table sides needed at least 2 big teams to have a bad season just to get a chance. Plus, Spurs didn't just scrape into 4th once or twice, they finished 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th over his last four years. They didnt just sneak in, they were very much established.
 

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He definitely has sources at psg. He is one of most reputable journalists who is also a psg fan and isn’t known for bullshitting. Not only with the club but he also has connections with the players. He even gets invited to the parties. Neymar invited him multiple times himself. I don’t know why the other poster is hell bent on insisting he is a hack like ballbag which he clearly isn’t. He isn’t an attention seeker or bullshitter like him.
Interesting. Thanks for this bit of information.
 

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I'm still trying to understand what is negative about pragmatic and how that relates to Poch?
There isn't anything negative about being pragmatic, I just don't think that it will be enough to compete in the current footballing climate. The best teams usually have a set, progressive style that they don't really deviate from, which gets more out of their players, which is why especially over a 38 or whatever game season, they tend to win more games.

The renowned 'pragmatic' managers aren't doing as well anymore, as they use to. See Ancelotti, Jose, Simeone etc. The only one I'd really put in that top category these days is Conte, who I think is brilliant. Most of the top clubs and best teams currently have managers with a more progressive style/approach. City with Pep, Bayern with Nagelsmann etc.

It relates to Poch as even though he has a more modern approach to the style (with his emphasis on pressing etc.) he's still a pragmatic coach who IMO doesn't really have a set style. I just don't think that's going to be enough when we are competing against teams that are just as rich, with players just as good, who are coached to a higher standard, operating in a more progressive system
 

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The only thing I'm concerned about is whether or not Poch will bring his own people with him or will the club force him to work with the three clowns Ole was lumbered with?
 

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Yes if they were doing badly. But they’re way ahead in the league and beat Man City. Can someone explain to me how Poch is failing at PSG? Are results hiding performances, like Ole last season? Or are people just pissed cause they’re not winning every game 8-0. All I see is Poch just failing to win the league in his first season after taking over from Tuchel. PSG sound like an absolute nightmare to manage. Egos in the dressing room on another level to Utd, plus Leonardo and the owners. I’m sure there’s no resistance cause Zidane is a brand new toy. 3 champions leagues, one of the greatest ever players and a French idol. Why would they ever be worried about ditching Poch if they’re replacing him with him? He’s the equivalent of Messi as a manager.
They are disjointed, don't really control games has they should and are saved by their firepower. The only issue with PSG is getting along with Leonardo, if you want any power you won't have it, he is the DOF and you have to deal with it.
 

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Poch likes to play a high pressing game, with neymar, mbappe, messi as your front three, none of whom track back. That's not gonna happen. Be interesting to see what Zidane implements.

Zidane is a dream for the owners, France's greatest player (not forgetting platini). Who is muslim and arab.
 

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Seems like this is win win for all involved

(Well apart from the United fans who don't want Poch ofc)

What time is his presser today before tomorrow's game against City?
 

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There isn't anything negative about being pragmatic, I just don't think that it will be enough to compete in the current footballing climate. The best teams usually have a set, progressive style that they don't really deviate from, which gets more out of their players, which is why especially over a 38 or whatever game season, they tend to win more games.

The renowned 'pragmatic' managers aren't doing as well anymore, as they use to. See Ancelotti, Jose, Simeone etc. The only one I'd really put in that top category these days is Conte, who I think is brilliant. Most of the top clubs and best teams currently have managers with a more progressive style/approach. City with Pep, Bayern with Nagelsmann etc.

It relates to Poch as even though he has a more modern approach to the style (with his emphasis on pressing etc.) he's still a pragmatic coach who IMO doesn't really have a set style. I just don't think that's going to be enough when we are competing against teams that are just as rich, with players just as good, who are coached to a higher standard, operating in a more progressive system
I'm not being rude but is that not being pragmatic no?
 

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The only thing I'm concerned about is whether or not Poch will bring his own people with him or will the club force him to work with the three clowns Ole was lumbered with?
Poch took four to PSG. Guess they would be coming to Utd.

"...At PSG alongside Pochettino will be assistants Miguel D’Agostino (first-team coach), Jesus Pérez (performance), Toni Jimenez (goalkeeper coach) and his son Sebastiano (sports scientist)...."
 

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Will Zidane even want to work with Leonardo? The guy sounds like an insufferable nightmare to work with. Surprised PSG haven't clocked on to that and binned him.
 

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Not easy to be manager of PSG dressing room, that's why Zidane could be perfect for them. Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, Icardi, Ramos. All are stars and proven, experienced players with authority. Don't think we've got as many stars in dressing room.

Would be interesting to see how Ronaldo fits in Pochettino's team, he's not exactly someone that can press a lot these days. But I guess if other players around him play the way manager wants then we can get away with Ronaldo being that one player who's more static.
 
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