Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
    1,534
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Poch was a Caf darling. It's only when Ole came into the picture that some started this grumbling about him not being good enough because he hadn't won trophies at Spurs, all that to justify us sticking with Ole. Same thing is happening right now, people are all hooked in Ten Hag despite most not having followed nor known much about him until a few weeks ago, so they go the extra mile to pretend Poch is crap.
It's genuinely funny. It seems the majority of this forum regularly watch Ajax :lol: While in reality most of the people who desperately want ONLY him, probably haven't heard of him up until a few weeks ago...
 

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Nothing will happen until after tomorrow's game, yet they'll write and write and write
 

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Your brilliant you are pal, you must spend your evenings following my posts and then calculate that percentage.

Shame you’ve gotten the % wrong but well done for trying. ;)
Put your money where your month is. £100 if we get an interim we don’t get Ten Hag at the end of it.
 

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It's genuinely funny. It seems the majority of this forum regularly watch Ajax :lol: While in reality most of the people who desperately want ONLY him, probably haven't heard of him up until a few weeks ago...

It's almost like everyone pretending they never watched Ajax very youthful team in Europe absolutely rip up the champs league 3 years ago playing incredible football.


You don't need to be massively clued up to see the job he's done, rebuild a new young team that battered Dortmund not too long ago in Europe.
 

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Do we reckon the most recent Valverde stories might be a good old smokescreen to drop PSG's compo demands for Poch?
 

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Do we reckon the most recent Valverde stories might be a good old smokescreen to drop PSG's compo demands for Poch?
If they’re smart, yes. PSG don’t ever need to negotiate for example Mbappe. But if they want Zidane to replace Poch then we do have a bit more leverage because we’d be doing them a favor. It does also make sense from our side though to be looking at interims and permanent managers at the same time.
 

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Pochettino doesn't win trophies. Even bottled a league title at PSG in a farmers league. If you want trophies to return to Old Trafford he's not that guy.
 

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They would prefer us to pay them to get Zidane instead of them paying to get Zidane surely.
Zidane doesn't currently have a club so you'd only be paying his wages, PSG won't have to pay any comp for him though?

If they’re smart, yes. PSG don’t ever need to negotiate for example Mbappe. But if they want Zidane to replace Poch then we do have a bit more leverage because we’d be doing them a favor. It does also make sense from our side though to be looking at interims and permanent managers at the same time.
I just don't understand how us going for Valverde potentially would affect anything PSG do with Poch. If Poch is that unsettled and we go for Valverde, then either PSG stick with him or if it's really that bad and he's just had enough they can part ways and Poch would be out of a job again. Just not sure how this would affect anything?
 

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They would prefer us to pay them to get Zidane instead of them paying to get Zidane surely.
Yeah, I think the chances of them sacking Poch mid-season are near zero. They're in a good position in the CL and Ligue 1. No other club is going to take Zidane either, so they are in a pretty strong position.
 

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Pochettino doesn't win trophies. Even bottled a league title at PSG in a farmers league. If you want trophies to return to Old Trafford he's not that guy.
Took over from Tuchel who was third and is now known as one of the best in the league.

He’s also 11 points clear at the minute and will probably win the league this season in February at this rate.
 

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Jackson putting out stuff today that covers both bases, still unsure which route we will go down at the moment
Or maybe, United are preparing for both possibilities? If they can't get Poch or Ten Hag now, they need an interim lined up.

Multiple sources reporting the same stuff too, it's almost certain we're after Poch and have spoken to Valverde. With Poch being the preferred option.
 

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They would prefer us to pay them to get Zidane instead of them paying to get Zidane surely.
You really think PSG don't have the money to pay Zidane whatever he wants? Money is irrelevant to them. They just turned down a 200 million transfer for Mbappe just so they can show Madrid the middle finger. State clubs like City and PSG don't care about money.
 

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It's genuinely funny. It seems the majority of this forum regularly watch Ajax :lol: While in reality most of the people who desperately want ONLY him, probably haven't heard of him up until a few weeks ago...
Exactly. They way some posts present their takes over this matter is funny. Most have gone to the extreme of Ten Hag or bust yet a few weeks ago they probably hadn't even heard of the guy.

The Poch is a bottler and not good enough arguments always bring me back to about a year ago when Tuchel was a meh and underwhelming manager according to the Caf yet currently they rate him similarly to Pep and Klopp.

Speaking of Klopp I remember how this place use to throw the bottler term at him because he kept on losing finals and finals. Yet here we are.

Caf is always gonna Caf I guess.
 

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If I was a French football fan I’d be so sick of seeing the “farmers league” tag. You can’t see mention of PSG of Ligue 1 without it being followed with that. Give it a rest.
 

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One thing we and especially our incompetent board might be overlooking.

It's a short summer next year and few international breaks before the WC. We need to give the new permanent manager enough time to asses the current squad and plan additions after we know who's leaving e.g. Pogba and Lingard, bringing back Amad.

Let's get Poch and start getting back to some sort of level which this club should command
 

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I think we are doing this right. Ten Hag and Poch both want United job. And now they both think "Will United wait for me till summer or will they hire other guy?". We are making good pressure on them
 

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If I was a French football fan I’d be so sick of seeing the “farmers league” tag. You can’t see mention of PSG of Ligue 1 without it being followed with that. Give it a rest.
I remember last season when people called the German League a farmers league then we 2nd in the PL went out of the CL to 2nd in their league
 

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Pochettino doesn't win trophies. Even bottled a league title at PSG in a farmers league. If you want trophies to return to Old Trafford he's not that guy.
Win trophies ? What was he expected to win at Spurs ? He made the CL final while making them a top 4 side.
 

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One thing we and especially our incompetent board might be overlooking.

It's a short summer next year and few international breaks before the WC. We need to give the new permanent manager enough time to asses the current squad and plan additions after we know who's leaving e.g. Pogba and Lingard, bringing back Amad.

Let's get Poch and start getting back to some sort of level which this club should command
Clearly we are trying to get him now, however like Stone said it's proving trickier than they thought to get him out of PSG, hence the talk today of us approaching Valverde as interim boss.
 

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You really think PSG don't have the money to pay Zidane whatever he wants? Money is irrelevant to them. They just turned down a 200 million transfer for Mbappe just so they can show Madrid the middle finger. State clubs like City and PSG don't care about money.
I'm aware of their wealth. I'm sure they would prefer to receive money still.
 

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Zidane doesn't currently have a club so you'd only be paying his wages, PSG won't have to pay any comp for him though?



I just don't understand how us going for Valverde potentially would affect anything PSG do with Poch. If Poch is that unsettled and we go for Valverde, then either PSG stick with him or if it's really that bad and he's just had enough they can part ways and Poch would be out of a job again. Just not sure how this would affect anything?
If we go all in for Poch and PSG think we've got no other option then they demand the top whack compo (£10m or whatever).

However, if we make out we might go for Valverde or other options then PSG might think differently. All comes down to how much PSG value Poch; by all accounts not too much hence my thought process.
 

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I bet the majority of people blowing their loads on Ten Hag have probably not even seen five of his matches.
They HAVEN'T. They probably watched Ajax last 2 CL games against Dortmund since it was around a few weeks ago that Ten Hag name blew up on the Caf.

This fronting most people on these boards are doing with regard to Ten Hag is absolutely ridiculous.

This is mostly just hivemind on the Caf. Bunch of people who have hardly ever seen much of Ten Hag Ajax, popped in a mega thread where he's praised, the narrative about the guy stuck with them and now they go around talking about matters pertaining to Ten Hag and Ajax as if they're that knowledgeable about them.

These posts of "Ten Hag or bust" despite not knowing the guy just a few weeks ago are hilarious. :lol:
 

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If we go all in for Poch and PSG think we've got no other option then they demand the top whack compo (£10m or whatever).

However, if we make out we might go for Valverde or other options then PSG might think differently. All comes down to how much PSG value Poch; by all accounts not too much hence my thought process.
Yeah totally nailed it there
 

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Zidane doesn't currently have a club so you'd only be paying his wages, PSG won't have to pay any comp for him though?



I just don't understand how us going for Valverde potentially would affect anything PSG do with Poch. If Poch is that unsettled and we go for Valverde, then either PSG stick with him or if it's really that bad and he's just had enough they can part ways and Poch would be out of a job again. Just not sure how this would affect anything?
If PSG want Zidane that means they need to fire Poch and pay him off. If we want Poch, we need to pay them off. If we don't want to pay the 10m then we can announce that getting Poch is tricky so we're looking at an interim still (Valverde). Then if PSG want to get rid of him, we can negotiate a lower release clause. I think that's what people are getting at. tbh I don't know what is true. There's so much spin around this club these days it's hard to figure out. Normally I'd say it's just journos. But in this case it's Simon Stone, which means it's been briefed. It also makes sense though. We should be trying to find a good interim if we feel like getting our permanent pick is too difficult. Then again, saying it's tricky, could all be about money also and they don't want to pay off both Poch and our coaches that we apparently extended (if the Mail is to be believed).
Fasten your seatbelt, these few days could be fun.
 

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They HAVEN'T. They probably watched Ajax last 2 CL games against Dortmund since it was around a few weeks ago that Ten Hag name blew up on the Caf.

This fronting most people on these boards are doing with regard to Ten Hag is absolutely ridiculous.

This is mostly just hivemind on the Caf. Bunch of people who have hardly ever seen much of Ten Hag Ajax, popped in a mega thread where he's praised, the narrative about the guy stuck with them and now they go around talking about matters pertaining to Ten Hag and Ajax as if they're that knowledgeable about them.

These posts of "Ten Hag or bust" despite not knowing the guy just a few weeks ago are hilarious. :lol:
I've just counted, I've watched Ajax play 8 times under him. Is that enough?

I've also extensively searched through Ajax forums, YouTube videos in which he discusses philosophy and club management.

Ten hag or ban for me
 
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