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Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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This appoitment to lead to some changes in here, threads about our manager shitting on hipsters will take a backseat and German posters will be on our side i guess.
The enthusiasm is that we have an interim coach and someone that is going to help the club beyond the end of the season. And Pochettino isn't available at the moment, all french reliable sources said that PSG have no intention to let their manager go and there is no one to replace him in the short term anyway.
Probably already posted but from a 2019 interview when he was asked about the vacant DoF role at United.
Bonus comment about Scousers.
I'm actually very pleased with how the Board are dealing with this. Getting in someone with a clear footballing philosophy, who will kick start it as manager before probably shadowing Murtough for two years, helping shape a structure that will put us in good stead for the future. Exactly what we need.
Bonus comment about Scousers.
Love Fergie, but hopefully this will signal an end to his influence.
It definitely dropped in his final season, that's for sure. Agreed that a high press is nigh impossible at PSG given the forward trio.
Luke Shaw’s fat ass is about to either be whipped back into shape or put out to pasture.
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Hmm....I think many don't really know what a consultancy position means.
I have been a business consultant for many years. You are hired to identify issues, come up with solutions and convince the decision makers to implement them.
However, you don't have any power to force decisions or to implement your ideas, if the board doesn't want. As the word says you are "consulting" but aren't actually managing and making decisions.
Knowing Rangnick's strive for total control and power, I'm quite surprised Rangnick agreed to just a consulting role.
Otherwise this is very exciting appointment.
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There is no direct connection outside of the idea that he is the highest pure head coach profile. Based on what has been said about ten Hag whether we talk about Newcastle or United, ten Hag was concerned about the lack of structure and the fact that he is comfortable in setup similar to Ajax which is a traditional DOF+head coach setup.
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I like the back and forth throughout your post of identifying that Rangnick is a high calibre manager, whilst at the same time also downplaying anything that he can deliver beyond the present of "this stage for this United team"
The fact that he has a superior record against Klopp's teams, should be enough to get you concerned (as not many have better head to head's against Jurgen).
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The enthusiasm I have is based on the 2 years after his interim role.
No reason why our board shouldn't implement his ideas on a footballing side of things though.
Yep there is no reason why this can’t go on longer than six months but let’s see. Proper exciting time.
Sounds good (if true). I’m all for it
Very excited about his appointment. My main concern is how he will get players like Martial, Greenwood and especially Rashford to press in a coordinated manner. Others may disagree, but I have noticed Rashford being very lazy with pressing from the front and tracking back for quite a while, even more under Ole compared to other managers but most were blaming it on him being injured or overworked. This hasn't changed even after he came back from injury.
Our fullbacks are also not his ideal kind of fullbacks and then you have McFred. The fullback part would be a concern of any manager out there anyway. Look at most top teams, most of them have ones which are very capable in the attacking department and are very technically gifted which we completely lack in Shaw and Wan Bissaka.
Our fullbacks are also not his ideal kind of fullbacks and then you have McFred. The fullback part would be a concern of any manager out there anyway. Look at most top teams, most of them have ones which are very capable in the attacking department and are very technically gifted which we completely lack in Shaw and Wan Bissaka.
Yes, more likely down to the players losing trust after the CL defeat but also if anything the high press increased in the preceding seasons as your graph shows. So you can tell the Fighting Cocks they're wrong and Poch definitely did not randomly decide to instruct his players to play a low line.It definitely dropped in his final season, that's for sure. Agreed that a high press is nigh impossible at PSG given the forward trio.
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No more shit on a stick football? No more "go out there and enjoy yourselves lads"? Went from negative excitement to underpants status: obliterated, can't wait to see him in action!
Wow, didn't expect this to be honest.
A little background from a german perspective:
Of course he was backed up with a load of money in Hoffenheim and Leipzig (well, at least for german standards, not for you guys
- Rangnick was coach of arguably the best Schalke 04 team ever
- Rangnick managed and built Hoffenheim from 3rd division to a 'Herbstmeisterschaft' (no. 1 in table during winter break)
- Rangnick managed and built Leipzig from lower divisions to what they are today
) but he completely built the identiy of these clubs and established a style of play from the youth teams all the way up to the first team, built the scouting of players and also youth coaches around this style, etc. etc.
He and Hoffenheim were basically the predecessor of Klopps Dortmund side.
He isn't the biggest motivator and according to reports not always the most easy going guy, so i don't know where i would put him compared to Klopp, Tuchel, Flick or Nagelsmann, but there is no doubt that Rangnick is one of the biggest "football brains" in germany.
I didn't expect this at all and I'm really, really curious how this will work out. To be honest I would be surprised to see him and Ronaldo get along because Rangnicks style relies on everyone following the tactics and fast (Gegen-)pressing.
Do you think Ronaldo will follow these guidelines?
I know that for you he is obviously no big name but I can tell you that he is heavily respected in germany and many wonder, why he didn't have an even bigger career. Maybe he is comparable to Bielsa in that aspect.
Anyways if you trust Rangnick enough to let him reshape your whole club, i think you will be very, very happy in a few years.
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No thank feck
I think that our DoF actually requested Rangnick, so he probably hopes to learn from him. Would put a lot of power in his hands as, if his proposals worked, they would be treated like gospel.
Suprised it has happened quickly.
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Self proclaimed Big ‘Football’ club finally making big football moves.
Just saw on Sky Sports, not sure what year but he was once talking about United and said “maybe Shaw isn’t a good enough fb for a club like United” will be interesting to see if those comments motivate Shaw to put in the performances we know he can.
Just saw on Sky Sports, not sure what year but he was once talking about United and said “maybe Shaw isn’t a good enough fb for a club like United” will be interesting to see if those comments motivate Shaw to put in the performances we know he can.
What are we thinking…club blazer or tracksuit for his first match?
Martial doesn't have a future at this club, hasn't for ages. I wouldn't worry about him. I fully feel Greenwood and Rashford can be coached though.
Rangnick fell in love with English football as a 21-year-old student on a year abroad at Sussex University, as part of his English and PE degree from Stuttgart University. He remembers going to the Goldstone Ground and watching Brighton lose 4-1 to Liverpool. “I remember the Brighton fans singing: ‘Seagulls! Seagulls!’ despite the scoreline. And the Liverpool fans responded: ‘Seaweed! Seaweed!’ Scouse humour, huh?”
Got all the right credentials then.
Got all the right credentials then.
Kornetka, his assistant, has previously worked with Guardiola and ten Hag.
Does that include the whole of the 19/20 season? Because Mourinho took over in November that season.It definitely dropped in his final season, that's for sure. Agreed that a high press is nigh impossible at PSG given the forward trio.
Murtough is a boss. Getting optimistic about ETH now.
I am not so sure about this despite a lot of enthusiasm from most posters . He sounds like a Director of Football not a manager /coach and his trophy cabinet is not exactly needing a new shelf or more raw plugs and he is currently not coaching and is with Locomotif in an upstairs role .
We want a high level manager .or a semi world class one . Given that we have missed out on Tuchel , Klopp ages ago , Conte with the Glasers and Deadwood more concerned with the latest Chinese mattress deal , Pochettino either not keen or not available despite for me the best long term appointment and even if he did want to join might have changed his mind , split from his family , decided it rains too much in Manchester , fallen under a bus by the time MU move out of deep slumber mode etc this appointment if it ever happens is pretty under whelming . He has probably one huge advantage ... cheapness . I hope that I am wrong so let's see . With Woodentop still active in decision making it is hard to be positive
We want a high level manager .or a semi world class one . Given that we have missed out on Tuchel , Klopp ages ago , Conte with the Glasers and Deadwood more concerned with the latest Chinese mattress deal , Pochettino either not keen or not available despite for me the best long term appointment and even if he did want to join might have changed his mind , split from his family , decided it rains too much in Manchester , fallen under a bus by the time MU move out of deep slumber mode etc this appointment if it ever happens is pretty under whelming . He has probably one huge advantage ... cheapness . I hope that I am wrong so let's see . With Woodentop still active in decision making it is hard to be positive
It had dropped anyways. I think the whole squad and even Poch himself were pretty jaded at that point. Hard to maintain that level of intensity. They’ve never really recovered either.
Any news on whether he’ll move upstairs and build a dynasty?Wow! This is genuinely massive if true, did not expect the club to actually make a proper footballing decision like this
We can get top 4, can go far in the CL, maybe win the FA cup.
What’s needed and although the pundits know it they won’t afford him it is patience he’ll need two months to coach his tactics into our players…and in that time he’ll be playing to get results. So that’s what I’m expecting, steadying the ship and results improve, then performances get better by around mid/late Jan
Great, the club might be getting serious now.
I read this was impossible from some posters here this morning, no-one at the club would want this power hungry man or something.
I read this was impossible from some posters here this morning, no-one at the club would want this power hungry man or something.
The narrative itself was always somewhat thin.
Of the four post-SAF appointments only Ole fits the idea of a markedly docile presence in the hot seat.
Moyes isn't particularly docile - just an average manager, really.
And both LVG and Mourinho are famous for not being docile (at all).
It’s getting better and better. What is going on today and United. Not used to this kind of business
United actually getting a modern coach? Feck me. Miracles do happen.
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