Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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Martial doesn't have a future at this club, hasn't for ages. I wouldn't worry about him. I fully feel Greenwood and Rashford can be coached though.
I think that all players should be given a chance to show whether they have a future or not, having actual coaches can help. Remember that Mourinho allegedly reduced his coaching since his comeback to Chelsea and Ole was Ole.
 

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I like that he's one of the "you will do as I say because I'm clearly correct" types of Germans and not the "you will do as I say otherwise I will throw a chair at you" kind of German. Or even the "look at my silly hat and farting whoopee cushion" kind of German.

Essentially we're getting a Mercedes-Benz instead of a Brabus or a Mini.

He could possibly be one of those "welcome to my town, please eat and drink everything in my house" Germans but I don't know what kind of car that would be.
 

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This could be a very exciting time for some of our youth players like Mejbri. Maybe he gives one or two the opportunity to establish themselves in the first time during this 6 month stint.
 

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Happy with this, even more so that he'll stay on afterwards. Definitely the best option out of all the candidates, I was quite impressed with the list to be fair.
 

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Very excited about his appointment. My main concern is how he will get players like Martial, Greenwood and especially Rashford to press in a coordinated manner. Others may disagree, but I have noticed Rashford being very lazy with pressing from the front and tracking back for quite a while, even more under Ole compared to other managers but most were blaming it on him being injured or overworked. This hasn't changed even after he came back from injury.

Our fullbacks are also not his ideal kind of fullbacks and then you have McFred. The fullback part would be a concern of any manager out there anyway. Look at most top teams, most of them have ones which are very capable in the attacking department and are very technically gifted which we completely lack in Shaw and Wan Bissaka.
No mention of Ronaldo??? He hasn't closed a CB down all season yet. Scored a lot of goals but pressing? Haven't seen him sprint once off the ball.
 

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So is the expectation his first game is Arsenal?
 

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As I view this thread for the first time, 24 pages is bit too much time consuming for me to read but I'll give my take at the risk of repeating others on here.

First off, not impressed by his average (at best) win % in German football, I think Ole's win % at UTD was far better & that's really saying something.

I notice that he doesn't like Shaw, I now wonder which other UTD players he doesn't like & hopefully won't pick namely Martial, Maguire & McFred.

I also notice some people are saying he won't pick Ronaldo, he would be a fool if he did that.

I am hoping that he will have our talented group of players playing as a team instead of hoping & relying on certain players to produce a magic moment or two to win matches for us.

I also hope he doesn't do an "Ole" & form a "mates club" where certain players (you know who you are) are in the starting XI every game even if they are not doing the business on the pitch.

Let's hope he can fix UTD & quick.
Not sure you are serious about the first point. He coached mainly midtable/newly promoted/lower league sides and mostly outperformed expectations. He promoted Ulm for the first time in history, promoted Hoffenheim multiple times, promoted Leipzig, was second with Schalke etc etc.
 

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I think this is an excellent appointment IF, and it’s a big if, he retains genuine influence in the consultancy role.

I don’t think this season is hugely salvageable )unless you count top four as salvation) but it looks like a medium term appointment and a very good one.
 

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I like that he's one of the "you will do as I say because I'm clearly correct" types of Germans and not the "you will do as I say otherwise I will throw a chair at you" kind of German. Or even the "look at my silly hat and farting whoopee cushion" kind of German.

Essentially we're getting a Mercedes-Benz instead of a Brabus or a Mini.

He could possibly be one of those "welcome to my town, please eat and drink everything in my house" Germans but I don't know what kind of car that would be.
Given the "emissions" after certain German foods and drinks, I would say Volkswagen.
 

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I didn't know anything about him as don't really follow other leagues but based on what people on here are saying about him, if this is true its very exciting

Presumably if he is given a consultancy role after (though I'd have some sort of performance related criteria in his contract to trigger this) he will be allowed a couple of signings in January?

Why are people so sure we will get Ten Hag (who I want) if we get Ralf, does he have links to him?

The photo of Martial on page 1 is hilarious, if he likes pressing he will not tolerate lazy players, they're in for a shock especially after Ole being so soft on them
 

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No mention of Ronaldo??? He hasn't closed a CB down all season yet. Scored a lot of goals but pressing? Haven't seen him sprint once off the ball.
I expect that from players in their 20s but I'm not so sure Ronaldo at 36 can do that week in week out.
 

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No mention of Ronaldo??? He hasn't closed a CB down all season yet. Scored a lot of goals but pressing? Haven't seen him sprint once off the ball.
I think there’s an argument that Ronaldo and to an extent Cavani, simply can’t do that any more. Utd will do well if they can find a way to play that type of football in spite of, rather than because of, those two. Whereas Rashford especially should be able to press. He’s quick enough, and he he’s done it in the past.
 

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Rangnick is the father of geggenpress. We had the grandfather of tiki-taka in LVG.
Tika-Taka is quite a weird tactic which is hated by the very man who made it famous. Pep once said "I loathe all that passing for the sake of it, all that tiki-taka. It's so much rubbish and has no purpose. You have to pass the ball with a clear intention, with the aim of making it into the opposition's goal. It's not about passing for the sake of it. Don't believe what people say. Barca didn't do tiki-taka! It's completely made up! Don't believe a word of it! In all team sports, the secret is to overload one side of the pitch so that the opponent must tilt its own defence to cope.
You overload on one side and draw them in so that they leave the other side weak. And when we've done all that, we attack and score from the other side. That's why you have to pass the ball, but only if you're doing it with a clear intention. It's only to overload the opponent, to draw them in and then to hit them with the sucker punch. That's what our game needs to be. Nothing to do with tiki-taka." Indirectly he was criticizing LVG's tactics at United were we used to pass the ball just for the sake of it rather then to get the result. On top of that it was never really successful in the EPL. Once again Pep admitted to have moved from that style while at City.

Geggenpress on the other hand had been devastating in the EPL. It allowed teams with smaller budgets such as Liverpool are to bridge the gap and come on top against juggernauts like Chelsea, City and well...us. On top of that there's three big differences between LVG and Rangnick.

A- Rangnick managed small sides. Bar AZ, LVG had always managed the top clubs whether it was Ajax (who were 20 times the team they are now), Barcelona, Bayern, United or Holland. Such situation allow managers to just stick to their 'philosophy' rather then be forced to try something new. In fact one of the comments LVG made was "I thought that United could buy any player they wanted"

B- Rangnick is not afraid of change. He used a horde of systems from 4-3-3 to 4-4-2 right to 3-5-2 and 4-2-2-2

C- In some way Rangnick is the closest thing we can get to SAF. I am not referring to style or honours. In terms of style and honours SAF cannot be emulated as it relied heavily on his decades of experience in winning the EPL something no one has. However similar to SAF, Rangnick understand what goes behind the scene (Rangnick was head of sports at Red Bull and Lokomotiv Moscow) and he strongly believe that football is won or lost at this level and not what happens on the pitch. LVG, Moyes and Mou couldn't give a feck about that
 

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I like the back and forth throughout your post of identifying that Rangnick is a high calibre manager, whilst at the same time also downplaying anything that he can deliver beyond the present of "this stage for this United team"

The fact that he has a superior record against Klopp's teams, should be enough to get you concerned (as not many have better head to head's against Jurgen).
I didn’t realise i was going back and fourth in that post? Still don’t see it??

I think this is a really really smart appointment and actually much more concerning for us Rival fans, regardless to his managerial honours, his style and attitude is exactly what United need.

This is a very smart unexpected move
 

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Rangnick will be as worried about having to accommodate Ronaldo as the guy with the biggest dick is concerned about taking his pants off in the changing rooms.
 

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Martial is fecked.....these guys better be bit and willing to run otherwise they will see themselves on the bench instead of playing for Rangnick

He's the guy the Klopp developed his positional play after with the high pressing intensity
 

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Look, I'm aboard the RR-train, but why is he suddenly seen as the second coming? Why didn't people here worship him before the appointment?
Umm people did. Nobody really expected him to be hired in any capacity though.
 

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Look, I'm aboard the RR-train, but why is he suddenly seen as the second coming? Why didn't people here worship him before the appointment?
You must have been living under a rock. He's been name dropped on here so much, but we're a mess behind the scenes so no one genuinely saw it as a plausible move. Past few days gave me hope we'd do something smart, but I'm gobsmacked we have.
 

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Rangnick will be as worried about having to accommodate Ronaldo as the guy with the biggest dick is concerned about taking his pants off in the changing rooms.
Exactly. He worked well with Raul at Schalke. They could not believe their luck that a legend of Real Madrid came to their club (albeit because he became to old to startfor Real), so Raul had at least a similarly special status there as Ronaldo has today at United.
 

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Ralf Rangnick had influenced the likes of Klopp, Tuchel, Nagelsmann but most importantly Stephen Hawson of Paddock FC.
 

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He might genuinely be the most important guy in german football over the last 30 years. Often unheralded, but he's behind a lot of changes in coaching and youth setups all over germany.
I agree 100% and would be excited to see what he can do with a genuine high quality squad. He never had that, he always produced the optimum with the limited means he got. Now this would be a feast for him. I would love to see this!
 
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