Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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Ahh fair enough, thanks for answering.
 

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I'm a cynical old cnut, but "consultant" sounds very much to me like a guy who'll ultimately be paid to have his opinions ignored, before being paid off to leave.
I said this in the other thread about being positive. Literally, the only negative is the fear the Glazers ignore him but I am sure if that happens, he'll be out pronto.

Coupled with the rumours Arnold was only going to take over the business side, we might finally be becoming a serious football club.
 

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He must be good then
Living in Austria I assume you are aware that yes, he has been a good manager as well as a methodical and successful DoF, for clubs like Salzburg, Hoffenheim, or Leipzig, but really that's about the amount of his relevance to world football.
The Man United job is massive for him though, no doubt. He will be very proud and he should be.
 

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Looked at the Russian league table and Locomotiv Moscow is in 4th.

I now understand why we have appointed this guy. (JK)
 

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YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
I said in another thread, the ideal scenario is we get Ralf R now, then in the Summer Ralf chooses the manager and he chooses Ten Hag.

Ralf is a football man, though and through. He won't bow to the likes of Woodward and his cronies. They'll either accept his footballing decisions or he'll leave.

IMO, medium-term, this is the guy (along with the new manager in the Summer) who can get us going head to head with MCFC, CFC and LFC. He won't accept failure.

His focus is fast passing, attacking football. He dislikes side/back passes. When we have the ball, he insists on fast forward passing. He believes that the GK is the weakest player on the ball, so he doesn't like the GK to see much of the ball.

You want fast tempo, hard pressing, relentless attacking football?
Ralf is your man.
I think once they see him at work especially if if he has time to push his vision through Woodward and his cronies will be more than happy that they brought him in. The man will make us more efficient and I suspect he will be more deliberate and committed to youth so I think players like Laird, Mejbri and Amad will get more concrete opportunities.

What I suspect is that, if things go really well in the next six months, there won't be a permanent manager as he will take the role himself or maybe fashion a hybrid role, with his assistant taking a more prominent role a LA Queroz, that will take care of the first team and revolutionize the club's structure. Nevertheless exciting times ahead.
 

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Living in Austria I assume you are aware that yes, he has been a good manager as well as a methodical and successful DoF, for clubs like Salzburg, Hoffenheim, or Leipzig, but really that's about the amount of his relevance to world football.
The Man United job is massive for him though, no doubt. He will be very proud and he should be.
And Schalke. But yes I agree. That's a way better post of yours than laughing off the appointment per se.

He's the first manager than can bring a progressive football philosophy to this club if he's given time to do so. So I'm very much looking forward to this appointment.
 

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A lot of us thought that in September 2020.

20/21 was a transformative season for Shaw, culminating in him having a fantastic Euros.
It’s important to keep the level at the top, not only for one season stand alone

Him and Maguire cannot play in this moment, the club has to protect their value

They have been a disgrace for United this season
They played too many games without resting, they are in burnout
 

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Not sure that's entirely fair on Ole. He got the team counter attacking to a very high level. It was capable of causing any team problems. He did teach them that.

The problem came when he tried to move on from that and discovered he hadn't bought the players who could go beyond counter attacking.

I'm hoping there aren't huge expectations of Rangnick to totally change our style. The players are what they are.

He'll improve the current first XI to some extent but for a real, permanent change he'll need new playing talent.
I agree. It’s all well and good to watch videos of his tactics at different teams he’s managed, but he’s got very little time to impose a drastic change on the team now.

I mean, the team isn’t great to watch right now, so anything will be an improvement, but we don’t have the players yet to suit his style of play. Hope he can get the team moving in a more structured, attacking way.

Here’s hoping
 

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Don’t think I’ve ever had this sort of buzz and excitement about a managerial appointment like this one. Even more so that he’s not just here for 6 months and heading off for pastures new in the summer. He’s staying on in a consultancy role to fix the footballing infrastructure at this club and build a structure and create an identity. A proper football man who I thought the Glazers would not want as he ain’t a banker or a “puppet yes man”.
 

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And Schalke. But yes I agree. That's a way better post of yours than laughing off the appointment per se.

He's the first manager than can bring a progressive football philosophy to this club if he's given time to do so. So I'm very much looking forward to this appointment.
Honestly, I've been trash-talking him for days now because it's fun (when I never in a million years would have expected him to actually get the job) so I just wanted to be consistent and die on the hill I'd shoveled up.
 

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I've given the club shite for the past few weeks and I have to say this is a really good decision so kudos to the higher ups in the board for this appointment.
I love the fact Ralf will stay on for another 2 years in a consultancy role. I hope that gets extended as well. I'd love for this guy to become our full time Director of Football.

Don’t think I’ve ever had this sort of buzz and excitement about a managerial appointment like this one. Even more so that he’s not just here for 6 months and heading off for pastures new in the summer. He’s staying on in a consultancy role to fix the footballing infrastructure at this club and build a structure and create an identity. A proper football man who I thought the Glazers would not want as he ain’t a banker or a “puppet yes man”.
Yep. Club has proven many wrong today. Making proper good moves. I don't care about results. All I want to see is a proactive United from top to bottom. Get the right pieces in place, the results will come.
 

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I think once they see him at work especially if if he has time to push his vision through Woodward and his cronies will be more than happy that they brought him in. The man will make us more efficient and I suspect he will be more deliberate and committed to youth so I think players like Laird, Mejbri and Amad will get more concrete opportunities.

What I suspect is that, if things go really well in the next six months, there won't be a permanent manager as he will take the role himself or maybe fashion a hybrid role, with his assistant taking a more prominent role a LA Queroz, that will take care of the first team and revolutionize the club's structure. Nevertheless exciting times ahead.
He won't take the role permanently, he purposely took the DOF road almost 10 years ago, nowadays he is a DOF/football executive that is perfectly able to be the interim manager while he finds a permanent manager that's what he did at Leipzig.
 

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Is he a fan of juice systems?
I watched an interview of him there recently where he was talking about meeting a specific doctor and how helpful he's been, how he takes blood samples and urine samples etc. for each player and how they should always be on unique regimes, different diets etc.

Then saw that he's currently for some reason plying his trade in Moscow of all places.. :lol:

I had a little laugh
 

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Mourinho could write a book on luke shaw

Journo: But he is an English international
Mourinho: Like Joe Hart out on loan at Torino
 

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Honestly, I've been trash-talking him for days now because it's fun (when I never in a million years would have expected him to actually get the job) so I just wanted to be consistent and die on the hill I'd shoveled up.
Yeah been there done that. Anyway let's see how he does. Can't get much worse anyway
 

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Just listened to one of his interviews where he explained his footballing philosophy. Odd bloke, for some reason he didn't say "Rashy", "desire" and "proper midfielder" even once.
Yes. You can tell he's useless. Didn't say "front foot" nor "good lads".
Hopeless
 

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interesting that he’s got 6 months to do what we usually trust other managers to do in 3/4 years.

the journey/process/philosophy or whatever they want to call it.

I hope he can whip them into shape quickly, hopefully the players take it seriously.
Tuchel has proven what an elite coach can do to a team of world class footballers. We genuinely have a very good squad and I’m certain a coach like Rangnick will transform our play very quickly
 

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Not sure that's entirely fair on Ole. He got the team counter attacking to a very high level. It was capable of causing any team problems. He did teach them that.

The problem came when he tried to move on from that and discovered he hadn't bought the players who could go beyond counter attacking.

I'm hoping there aren't huge expectations of Rangnick to totally change our style. The players are what they are.

He'll improve the current first XI to some extent but for a real, permanent change he'll need new playing talent.
I think everyone in our team bar McFred and AWB can play in more expansive styles of play but you can't really do much of your midfield is crap and designed work rate only. Given that Fred can be useful, the challenge then becomes to fashion a solution for defensive midfield that ensures that the team is at least functional until the January window at least so I suspect we will see more of Donny in the 6 role and how he does there determines what we will do in January.

At least we now have a guy with connections, eye for talent and a database of players who can identify a getable and inexpensive DM.

Also exciting is that Fletcher will learn from a respected and revered football brain and will be ready to have a more influential role in the club when the time comes.
 

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I wish Olly could come back and do the Hitler Downfall meme with Ole, Carrick, Phelan and McKenna as Keitel, Jodl, Krebs and Burgdorf.

Someone is going to make it sooner or later.

Begging to be done.
 

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So who here thinks it was their post at influenced the board in this decision?
 

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Simply just wow. I would have never thought that this club would have the ambition to go out and get Ralph. This guy is a legend in Germany, even the way he talks, it's pure information. He will take no rubbish from any player, whether it be Pogba or Ronaldo or Amad or Lingard. He wants to win, he wants to win in his own style. For those of you who are not familiar, forward pressing, direct football or work to get the ball in the net as soon as possible.

Now I am not expecting a champions league or a premier league from him, i am expecting a new school of thought to start flowing through this club. Having him for a least 2 more years will help transform this club properly, this is what I call a reset. He loves detail, he loves data, he loves work ethic, he loves positional sense, he loves ambition. Whether he is manager or a consultant, this is what I expect from future players we recruit.

I hope some of the players are sitting there and pissing themselves. They should be worried about their places in the team. I wouldn't worry so much about Carrick or Mckenna being around with him there, this guy will control and oversea every single thing. If he don't like it, he will change it. Im sure he will bring in his trusted assistant, therefore I'm cool with Carrick and Mckenna taking smaller roles in the coaching staff, this is there opportunity to learn from a footballing genius and i doubt very much, they will be upset at a demotion.
 

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Hardly conspiracy theories - more accurate descriptions.

But it's clear that the Disneyland model was running out of road. You won't get top four like that with Liverpool Chelsea City Arsenal, Spurs and Newcastle all looking dangerous. The Superleague was the last option for that model and it failed.
Louis van Gaal and Jose could be described as many, many things but "yes men"....definitely not!

We appointed Solskjaer against the initial thinking because he won loads of games, and after PSG I reckon 80% of this forum would have said give him a permanent deal.

Anyway...it's all water under the bridge...thankfully the majority seem very pleased with Ragnick, so hopefully will have the goodwill of the fans behind him.
 

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Simply just wow. I would have never thought that this club would have the ambition to go out and get Ralph. This guy is a legend in Germany, even the way he talks, it's pure information. He will take no rubbish from any player, whether it be Pogba or Ronaldo or Amad or Lingard. He wants to win, he wants to win in his own style. For those of you who are not familiar, forward pressing, direct football or work to get the ball in the net as soon as possible.

Now I am not expecting a champions league or a premier league from him, i am expecting a new school of thought to start flowing through this club. Having him for a least 2 more years will help transform this club properly, this is what I call a reset. He loves detail, he loves data, he loves work ethic, he loves positional sense, he loves ambition. Whether he is manager or a consultant, this is what I expect from future players we recruit.

I hope some of the players are sitting there and pissing themselves. They should be worried about their places in the team. I wouldn't worry so much about Carrick or Mckenna being around with him there, this guy will control and oversea every single thing. If he don't like it, he will change it. Im sure he will bring in his trusted assistant, therefore I'm cool with Carrick and Mckenna taking smaller roles in the coaching staff, this is there opportunity to learn from a footballing genius and i doubt very much, they will be upset at a demotion.
This is all pretty laughable. What's so ambitious about hiring a 60+ year old guy who has never worked at a top club? Who has never won a title but a single German Cup with Schalke? How come that's the extent of his career if he's such a messiah of football wisdom? Is Man United's aspiration to run like the well-oiled, unstoppable winning machines that are RasenBallsport Leipzig or TSG Hoffenheim?
 
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