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Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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And he was extremely successful doing it.
This is what happened according to reports and Levy has since gone back to the model after sacking Poch and hiring Paratici.
Both of them were visionary managers with a clear plan on how they want to play. Both had periods of time in and out of football, are fun when speak about tactics.
Both have been seen as their colleagues as great teachers / tacticians.
Both young introducing youth and try to have more say about the whole structure of the club.
They do share planty of things.
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Quite...not really a long term approach is it?
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Hopefully when all the excitement wears off tomorrow, everyone can calm down a bit with the over-excitement of this appointment. The aim at the end of the season IMO is to make top 4, so all the talk about his philosophy, powerpoint slides and interviews is just that, talk. There was a similar excitement here when LVG was appointed and he actually was a world class manager at a point unlike RR.
I get why the mood is positive, I'm also happy with this appointment but we need to be realistic here. Top 4 will be a struggle as will the next round in the CL. His style of play sounds promising but that's all it is a style of play, there's no guarantee it will get us where we want to be. So let's just be patient and save the OTT praise for when he actually does start putting points on the table for us.
I get why the mood is positive, I'm also happy with this appointment but we need to be realistic here. Top 4 will be a struggle as will the next round in the CL. His style of play sounds promising but that's all it is a style of play, there's no guarantee it will get us where we want to be. So let's just be patient and save the OTT praise for when he actually does start putting points on the table for us.
I'm honestly more excited about the fecking two year consultancy. That's how entertaining football has been recently.
Oh god
Jeez!
Thats what i thought which is why I'm asking: why do people think Rangnick's appointment makes it more likely we'll go for Ten Hag over say Poch, or any other manager? Seems like a complete leap in logic to me.
Assume you missed that he's saying for two years past that? Just in a different role.
Should be fine either way as Rangnick seems to be known as a coach who trains other coaches in addition to being a manager.
Ok, agreed. But then let's turn it around. Which top club is there where Pochettino would have more power than at Manchester United and where he would not have to work under/alongside a DoF? Man United was the only exception left, really.
And adding to that, the newly introduced DoF structure might have been strengthened, or doubled down on, with Murtough bringing in Rangnick to support him, but it's still not that encoded into the club as it is at all other top clubs, isn't it?
By the way, I'm not saying that this means Pochettino can or will be hired, or Ten Hag wouldn't be. Just saying, Pochettino might agree to swallow the pill and it could work well.
Makes total sense to keep Carrick and McKenna. Ralf can make his mind up himself on them. Surprised Phelan stays though - he came with Ole and I didn’t think he had much to do with the coaching.
That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's an opportunity to see if they'll improve under the tutelage of someone like Rangnick. Carrick and McKenna in particular are both young and have plenty of room to grow.
If he teaches us to press properly and play to a system he will be worth it. And the idea of him helping our future development by looking into our recruitment, academy and playing style, after the 6 months then I’m ecstatic. I’m not dreaming he’s the next Klopp but we’ve been so rudderless on and off the pitch that to me he’s the Messiah.
WTF, I thought Phelan wasn't doing any coaching. He's just the coaching Phil Jones at this point.
If this is true we're still utterly doomed.
He doesn't and apparently he wasn't being used as much recently which makes me question why the feck he was given a new contract not long ago.
Juan Mata, hang your head in shame!Do you watch us play?
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Been our most consistently pressing forward this season
He's played most of his senior football in Germany in a pressing system, pretty sure he'll be just fine and one of the players to benefit greatly from this..
Why? He has no staff to bring with him and we’ll have the new managers staff in 6 months anyway.
The only reason I can see that people are making that assumption is that Pochettino has seemed to want more control and this appointment brings in another person that would be above him, from a style of play Rangnick is not a fully perfect match for any likely successor although he is more in line with Pochettino than Ten Hag but the structural change probably works better for Ten Hag. You would hope that they have considered the impact of this appointment on their potential permanent targets.
Never heard of him but that's one of the most German sounding names I've ever heard so he must be quality
The feck were people expecting in regards to our coaches? Our new permanent manager will sort that out, no point in the interim overhauling the coaching situation just to face the same again in six months.
That's what Mourinho was briefing when he was about to get sacked.
The truth is that Baldini was removed as technical director in 2015, which gave Poch more power. Its not a surprise to see him defend his position and why the dangers of relinquishing recruitment control to a employee with a short shelf life is fraught with danger.
So the old coaching staff will remain, but Ragnick will bring his own guy with him as well? Sounds okey to me, as long as they get out in the summer.
Not too surprised that they could stay on. Hopefully the rumours about Rangnick bringing Kornetka are true though, in which case the old boys will have diminished roles as coaches and will follow Rangnick and Kornetka's lead
Exactly. Carrick and McKenna will benefit from this. They were both rushed along too quickly.
You aren't aware he's staying on at the club for another two years in a different role?
Carrick and McKenna I can understand. WTF is the point of keeping Phelan on?
Regarding the first question that's his problem.
And regarding the second question that's kind of the key point, would it be sensible for United to seriously go in that direction just to abandon or undermine it a bit more than a year later? Is that what a well run club would or should do?
If we assume that United is now well run, then i would be surprised by the appointment of Pochettino unless Pochettino accept the role of head coach without complaints. Also I don't know about ten Hag, I have no certitudes on who is going to be the main target, since it's the most common the club increased the pool of candidates.
And regarding the second question that's kind of the key point, would it be sensible for United to seriously go in that direction just to abandon or undermine it a bit more than a year later? Is that what a well run club would or should do?
If we assume that United is now well run, then i would be surprised by the appointment of Pochettino unless Pochettino accept the role of head coach without complaints. Also I don't know about ten Hag, I have no certitudes on who is going to be the main target, since it's the most common the club increased the pool of candidates.
Not surprised our coaches are being kept on, and not too bothered either hearing that Ragnick is bringing his assistant. The permanent incoming manager will likely bring their own staff in this summer anyway.
and the factual sarcasm was missed somewhat.
the post was correct, 'as it stands' Carrick holds the gold
Exactly. It would be a nightmare trying to put together an entire temporary coaching staff. I don't think Rangnick is gonna be able to convince all his first choice people that they want to upend their lives to come work a 6 month gig.
I'm delighted with this appointment. Interim Manager for six months, to give the club time to get the manager they really want, then two years to train the coaches and advise other guys who are relatively inexperienced in their roles. He's a real football visionary, and his knowledge, drive, expertise and experience is exactly what the club needs to modernise and progress.
I get that we're not in a position to kick all of these guys out of the club but at least one of them should have left with Ole. How must Ole feel knowing that these four are equally responsible for the state we're in and yet he was the only one to be singled out?
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