Squid Game smuggler sentenced to death by firing squad in North Korea

[KirkDuyt]

I learned in the Kyle Rittenhouse thread that we should respect the rule of law in foreign countries. You see in North Korea it is common to be sentenced to death over trivial matters just as it is common in the US to murder people with a rifle you brought into a protest of people you don't like.

Be that as it may, this is a bit much innit.

 

[villain]

Seems bizarre, Squid Games is a critique on both South Korea & capitalism, so not sure why this would infuriate North Korea.
I’ll reserve judgement until other sources corroborate

 

[Siorac]

Seems bizarre, Squid Games is a critique on both South Korea & capitalism, so not sure why this would infuriate North Korea.
I’ll reserve judgement until other sources corroborate

One of the main characters is a North Korean defector, that alone is probably enough.

 

[Siorac]

I can't stop listening to and watching this

Amazingly creepy, their weird swaying, the lyrics, their forced smiles. It's bizarre and I love it.

Definitely makes me think North Korea must be like stepping back in time to the 70s or something.

It's the crowd that always gets me. Nothing screams genuine happiness and enjoyment more than a bunch of middle-aged dudes sitting in neat rows, clapping in perfect unison without a single smile between them.

 

[4bars]

I learned in the Kyle Rittenhouse thread that we should respect the rule of law in foreign countries. You see in North Korea it is common to be sentenced to death over trivial matters just as it is common in the US to murder people with a rifle you brought into a protest of people you don't like.

Be that as it may, this is a bit much innit.

Official numbers says that death penalty is applied very seldom, way lower than in united states and for serious crimes. If you have other numbers and what are the reasons, please share.

North Korea is a shithole country because of the dynasty of dictators that they have, but there is a lot of bullshit around too. Like executions with anti aircraft guns, or feeding to a pack of starving dogs, killing a pop star because an affair (and then she appeared after major western media said it happens), etc..

There is enough of crazy real stuff to criticize korea starting with their even more delirous internal propaganda. But here are many things that are made up about north korea

 

[elmo]

Despicable. Why is the world turning a blind eye on this ? That place is a humanitarian nightmare. Are they going to just let him be until he gets bored and starts letting off nuclear weapons?

Because they don't have oil.

 

[Tarrou]

Despicable. Why is the world turning a blind eye on this ? That place is a humanitarian nightmare. Are they going to just let him be until he gets bored and starts letting off nuclear weapons?

because they are backed by China, basically

without China's backing it would all be over in no time

 

[4bars]

because they are backed by China, basically

without China's backing it would all be over in no time

You forget that no one, not even the US could stop 10,000 pieces of artillery that is pointing out to Seoul 24/7 (only 23 km). It would destroy the capital in a few minutes meaning the killing of millions of south koreans. Is a stalemate that only north koreans or diplomacy can resolve. War would mean a massacre for both koreas even if north korea would lose in weeks (supposing that China would break the military alliance)

 

[Siorac]

Official numbers says that death penalty is applied very seldom, way lower than in united states and for serious crimes. If you have other numbers and what are the reasons, please share.

North Korea is a shithole country because of the dynasty of dictators that they have, but there is a lot of bullshit around too. Like executions with anti aircraft guns, or feeding to a pack of starving dogs, killing a pop star because an affair (and then she appeared after major western media said it happens), etc..

There is enough of crazy real stuff to criticize korea starting with their even more delirous internal propaganda. But here are many things that are made up about north korea

I'd be very skeptical about the official numbers coming out of North Korea though. Defectors tend to paint a different picture about how the death penalty is applied compared to what official numbers say.

 

[KirkDuyt]

Official numbers says that death penalty is applied very seldom, way lower than in united states and for serious crimes. If you have other numbers and what are the reasons, please share.

North Korea is a shithole country because of the dynasty of dictators that they have, but there is a lot of bullshit around too. Like executions with anti aircraft guns, or feeding to a pack of starving dogs, killing a pop star because an affair (and then she appeared after major western media said it happens), etc..

There is enough of crazy real stuff to criticize korea starting with their even more delirous internal propaganda. But here are many things that are made up about north korea

It was sort of tongue in cheek, but as far as official numbers go, I wouldn't necessarily trust them.

And my post was knocking the US more than North Korea anyway.

 

[Tarrou]

You forget that no one, not even the US could stop 10,000 pieces of artillery that is pointing out to Seoul 24/7 (only 23 km). It would destroy the capital in a few minutes meaning the killing of millions of south koreans. Is a stalemate that only north koreans or diplomacy can resolve. War would mean a massacre for both koreas even if north korea would lose in weeks (supposing that China would break the military alliance)

If China weren’t propping up the regime it wouldn’t last 5 minutes

They’d be broke

 

[maniak]

Official numbers

Well...

 

[4bars]

I'd be very skeptical about the official numbers coming out of North Korea though. Defectors tend to paint a different picture about how the death penalty is applied compared to what official numbers say.

It was sort of tongue in cheek, but as far as official numbers go, I wouldn't necessarily trust them.

And my post was knocking the US more than North Korea anyway.

Well...

Yes, I agree with all of you on what is true or what is not, but it works both ways. The Pyonyang regime lies inwards and outwards but is true that there is a lot of lies (often times mental ones) about them too. As always, the answer is in the middle probably.

 

[4bars]

If China weren’t propping up the regime it wouldn’t last 5 minutes

They’d be broke

It lasted a decade when the USRR fell and China picked up the the mess. hundreds of thousands died in the process but they kept the power still without much a problem. If China would not prop them up, the kim saga will keep the power again, the people would suffer again, dying again, because you can't measure it with the western standards. And they would keep their 60-70 artillery point out to Seoul as leverage. Only diplomacy can solve this stalemate

 

[Sweet Square]

Same source as the Squid Game story

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I'm not sure if radio free asia is a good source of information tbh. Although banning others stealing your look does sound cool.

 

[Chairman Woodie]

I think this story is more likely an attempt to take advantage of the show's popularity.

The combination of severe restrictions on the border with China (including a shoot-on-site policy), the recent legislative changes (i.e. the reactionary ideology and culture law) and the viewing preferences in North Korea make me doubt the story.

If someone did manage to smuggle copies of the Squid Game into North Korea, the most likely route would be the port of Namp'o.

 

[Winrar]

I mean, that's how it's always been in north korea. Harsh sentences for arbitrary reasons, although in this particular instance interacting with foreign media is known to result in death sentence or years to decades in prison camp.

Even if this particular story isn't true, it's not outside the realm of possibility. Sick and twisted country and government that deserves to be relegated to history books.

 

[harms]

North Koreans don’t vote.

Technically they do.

 

[harms]

I’m always a bit wary of those stories as they usually come from incredibly biased sources outside of North Korea. There were way too many fakes over the past decade that were spread that way.

Not that North Korea isn’t capable of that though! In the world that’s full of horrendous regimes they still remain the worst one by some margin.

 

[Kentonio]

This will inevitably happen at some point with or without provocation.

Crazy man might start a war in future so we should just skip ahead and start it now?

The NK border is only about 25km away from Seoul, a city of nearly 10m inhabitants. North Korea have thousands of dug-in artillery positions within range. They also have a fairly advances missile program. The understanding is that in the case of any direct attack on North Korea, the first response will be to shell the crap out of Seoul, which would result in a staggeringly high death count and which there is basically no way to prevent. That's before the war has even really started. Oh and those missiles? They have the range to hit countries like Japan as well as South Korea, and there's a good chance they are already nuclear tipped.

NK is a perfect example of how you can't solve all the worlds problems, no matter how much we might want to.

 

[Shakesy]

I work very hard and make up great prans
But nobody ristens, no one understands

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

Can we have the same sentences for viewers of love island, strictly and murder she wrote?

 

[Foxbatt]

Crazy man might start a war in future so we should just skip ahead and start it now?

The NK border is only about 25km away from Seoul, a city of nearly 10m inhabitants. North Korea have thousands of dug-in artillery positions within range. They also have a fairly advances missile program. The understanding is that in the case of any direct attack on North Korea, the first response will be to shell the crap out of Seoul, which would result in a staggeringly high death count and which there is basically no way to prevent. That's before the war has even really started. Oh and those missiles? They have the range to hit countries like Japan as well as South Korea, and there's a good chance they are already nuclear tipped.

NK is a perfect example of how you can't solve all the worlds problems, no matter how much we might want to.

The South Koreans want peace. North Korea wants it too. But both of them are unable to do it because of the Americans.

 

[VorZakone]

The South Koreans want peace. North Korea wants it too. But both of them are unable to do it because of the Americans.

Unable because of America? How come?

 

[Winrar]

The South Koreans want peace. North Korea wants it too. But both of them are unable to do it because of the Americans.

South Koreans' version of peace is completely different from the North's.

I can assure you that no sane Korean south of the 38th will ever entertain the idea of being ruled under the Kim regime.

 

[Tarrou]

Crazy man might start a war in future so we should just skip ahead and start it now?

The NK border is only about 25km away from Seoul, a city of nearly 10m inhabitants. North Korea have thousands of dug-in artillery positions within range. They also have a fairly advances missile program. The understanding is that in the case of any direct attack on North Korea, the first response will be to shell the crap out of Seoul, which would result in a staggeringly high death count and which there is basically no way to prevent. That's before the war has even really started. Oh and those missiles? They have the range to hit countries like Japan as well as South Korea, and there's a good chance they are already nuclear tipped.

NK is a perfect example of how you can't solve all the worlds problems, no matter how much we might want to.

it would get solved real quick if China pulls the funding, because the regime has to end then

they'd likely just make peace with South Korea then because the alternatives all suck

 

[Denis79]

Despicable. Why is the world turning a blind eye on this ? That place is a humanitarian nightmare. Are they going to just let him be until he gets bored and starts letting off nuclear weapons?

If they had oil I guarantee someone would "liberate" the people.

 

[Scarlett Dracarys]

If they had oil I guarantee someone would "liberate" the people.

Definitely too bad nobody is interested in nuclear weapons.

 

[Denis79]

Definitely too bad nobody is interested in nuclear weapons.

As if the world makes any sense?

 

[Kentonio]

it would get solved real quick if China pulls the funding, because the regime has to end then

they'd likely just make peace with South Korea then because the alternatives all suck

If China pulled their support, then theres a pretty good chance that the place would dissolve into a brutal civil war, which isn't generally what you want from a country with nuclear weapons. I think there's roughly zero chance of Kim suddenly trying to play buddies with South Korea. Its a nation built on isolationism and fear of outsiders. Peace wouldn't pay the bills, they'd need trade and opening of borders, and it's wildly unlikely his regime could survive that.

 

[BarcaSpurs]

Do you saps actually believe this sort of nonsense?

 

[sun_tzu]

If China pulled their support, then theres a pretty good chance that the place would dissolve into a brutal civil war, which isn't generally what you want from a country with nuclear weapons. I think there's roughly zero chance of Kim suddenly trying to play buddies with South Korea. Its a nation built on isolationism and fear of outsiders. Peace wouldn't pay the bills, they'd need trade and opening of borders, and it's wildly unlikely his regime could survive that.

Couple of billion quid... total immunity from any prosecutions and some bond villain type castle on lake Geneva and a few hundred kpasof guards

Doubt he would care much about anything else

 

[The Firestarter]

The South Koreans want peace. North Korea wants it too. But both of them are unable to do it because of the Americans.

Okay Kim.

 

[Tarrou]

If China pulled their support, then theres a pretty good chance that the place would dissolve into a brutal civil war, which isn't generally what you want from a country with nuclear weapons. I think there's roughly zero chance of Kim suddenly trying to play buddies with South Korea. Its a nation built on isolationism and fear of outsiders. Peace wouldn't pay the bills, they'd need trade and opening of borders, and it's wildly unlikely his regime could survive that.

Why would it be zero?

What other options do the regime have at that point? They have no money, no oil, and basically zero exports. What do you think they would do?

I see the options as

Make peace with the South
Reform and try to build a functioning nation
Start a war and get obliterated by the US

Anything else?

 

[Kentonio]

Why would it be zero?

What other options do the regime have at that point? They have no money, no oil, and basically zero exports. What do you think they would do?

I see the options as

Make peace with the South
Reform and try to build a functioning nation
Start a war and get obliterated by the US

Anything else?

Any option that involves opening up NK results in him losing power and very likely meeting a horrific end. History would suggest the cnut would do something extreme to try and avoid that happening. Like threatening his neighbours with nuclear holocaust perhaps.

 

[Tarrou]

Any option that involves opening up NK results in him losing power and very likely meeting a horrific end. History would suggest the cnut would do something extreme to try and avoid that happening. Like threatening his neighbours with nuclear holocaust perhaps.

Let's say he feels backed into a corner and does something extreme like you say. Most outcomes obviously result in them losing a war, but let's say by some miracle they win a conflict by threatening to go nuclear and the US backs off.

Then what? They are still broke, have no foreign aid support and no economy to support their regime. Starting a conflict doesn't really help them in the best case scenario. In poker we call that a negative free-roll.

 

[VorZakone]

It's kinda bizarre to realise that it's 2021 yet North Korea is still the way it is. I really wonder how that country can get rid of the Kim regime. My best guess would be China intervening, dethrone whichever Kim family member is in charge, then take over NK and maintain stability while gradually working with moderate leftovers from the regime to install a new government. And then slowly open up the country.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

Let's say he feels backed into a corner and does something extreme like you say. Most outcomes obviously result in them losing a war, but let's say by some miracle they win a conflict by threatening to go nuclear and the US backs off.

Then what? They are still broke, have no foreign aid support and no economy to support their regime. Starting a conflict doesn't really help them in the best case scenario. In poker we call that a negative free-roll.

The regime will be fine. A few millions will starve to death but as long as they still have control over the army and those artillery are still pointed at Seoul, Kim and the boys will go on.

 

[Tarrou]

The regime will be fine. A few millions will starve to death but as long as they still have control over the army and those artillery are still pointed at Seoul, Kim and the boys will go on.

funded by what?

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

funded by what?

Their own agricultural product? If needs must they can always start planting weeds/heroin and ship into Russia.

Mao starved 15% of the population to death with his Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, Northern Vietnamese lived under terrible privation following the lane reform mandated by China after 1954, and went on to fight another 20 years war for reunification. You are severely underestimating the resilience of East Asia Communist regimes.