Michael Carrick leaves Manchester United

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Classy. At least he has self-awareness unlike Ole. Good job as caretaker.

Now Phelan and McKenna need to do the right thing and follow him out the door.
Sad to see Carrick go, always liked him as a player and been impressed with how he stepped up at a difficult time for the club and given us a chance to salvage the season by stopping the rot. I guess he feels that he has to go given the way things have gone with the regimes he has been part of and didn't want to be 'imposed' on the next manager.

I would love it if he takes on a job in the lower leagues and work his way up. He seems to have something about him as a manager and it will be exciting to see how he does.
 

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How many trophies had we won since he became a first team coach?
 

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Self- what now? Carrick hasn't achieved jackshit as a coach to pretend that being Rangnick's coach is below him. He was a coach of a terribly coached team, assistant manager of a weak manager who got sacked. Under Rangnick maybe he would have learned a thing or two. Thinking you are better than you actually are and passing on an opportunity to improve is ego, not: self-respect.


Every great coach learned under somebody at some point. It's only the shitty ones who imagined they knew something purely based on them having had been a good player in the past. Having experience as a player and being a coach/manager is not the same thing. Carrick didn't learn anything under Jose, and there was nothing to learn off Ole, so - why would it be bad for him to learn under Rangnick, a legend that many modern top managers look up to? What exactly is wrong with that?
Why should we pay him to learn? Why should the team suffer having a Learning on the job coach when we could have hired a proper "already good" coach to start from day 1? Rangnick would have his hand full he needs a coach he can delegate and trust, not another coach for him to coach.

The same reason why we can't allow Ole to learn his trait at the expense of the club. We might make an exception during good times, for example if during SAF last 5 years he took in one ex United players as understudy, something we can afford. But now? When we're already on crisis? Having a coach learning on the go?
 

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Self- what now? Carrick hasn't achieved jackshit as a coach to pretend that being Rangnick's coach is below him. He was a coach of a terribly coached team, assistant manager of a weak manager who got sacked. Under Rangnick maybe he would have learned a thing or two. Thinking you are better than you actually are and passing on an opportunity to improve is ego, not: self-respect.


Every great coach learned under somebody at some point. It's only the shitty ones who imagined they knew something purely based on them having had been a good player in the past. Having experience as a player and being a coach/manager is not the same thing. Carrick didn't learn anything under Jose, and there was nothing to learn off Ole, so - why would it be bad for him to learn under Rangnick, a legend that many modern top managers look up to? What exactly is wrong with that?
Jose was one of the finest managers the EPL had ever seen while Ole gave the likes of Carrick complete control over coaching. Carricky could rely on Phelan as well who was Sir Alex no 2. Was it perfect? Of course not. We are Manchester United. The club's aim is to win trophies and not to teach Carricky the basics of coaching.
 

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How many trophies had we won since he became a first team coach?
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I repeat how many trophies had he won as first team coach?
 
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Damn. Went straight to bed at FT and didn't even know he was stepping aside.

Pure Class. Thanks Carrick! Undefeated forever now :drool:
 

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Could've waited til tomorrow?
Nah, good timing to nip any post match bollocks in the bud.

You wouldn't want shite like Keane and Carragher shouting over each other, or someone like Souness banging on about the whole Rangnick appointment being a mistake as Carrick was our man, etc. Even as far as the fans are concerned, it has spared us precious hours of mindless arguments.

Best possible exit, on his own terms.
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FFS from reading some of the posts on this thread I think Goldbridge has too much influence on our fanbase. He may not mean to be overly critical but the regularity and length of his shows means that he has to fill lots of airtime with hate and vitriol.

Good luck Carrick! Hope you do well and I looked forward to seeing you in the Premier League soon.
These "fan" channels are creating a big influence on a lot of posters. independent thought is becoming less with them.
 

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Brave and spot on decision to rest Ronaldo against Chelsea and play him against Arsenal. Thank you for the three matches and all the best.
 

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Clearly he wanted to step down when Ole was fired but held it for an extra week to get the club over a difficult run of fixtures.

Absolute legend.
 

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One thing for sure this thread shows who the idiots are.

Thank you Michael for all your years of service and doing things your way.

Enjoy your time out recharge the batteries and hope to see you soon back in football some time down the line

:)
 

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Hope you become top top manager and come back as our modern SAF.
P/s: i sincerely thought 18mil was too much for you. Thanks for the great memories michael.
 

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Woke up to this news, and it's a-bit surprising. I thought he would be here until at least the end of the season. Loved him as a player and probably rated him higher than many others did. I honestly have no idea what he's like as a coach, but all the best for the future.
 

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I thought Rangnick’s number 2 was staying at Lokomotiv? Does this mean Phelan as assistant or does Ralf have someone else lined up?
Think we could well get a better idea on that when he does his presser this morning
 

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I remember years ago him stepping in as a CB when we had an injury crisis. Top player, underused by England. Definitely deserves a well earned rest.
Ah yes December 2009 wasn't it and unfortunately we got smacked 3-0 away at Fulham after losing to Villa at home
 

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I'm glad he's leaving, we need fresh ideas and he needs an environment to grow or possibly take more responsible role.

I was never a big fan, but MC deserves a lot of respect.
 

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Woke up this morning, had a shower and sat down with a coffee to read footy news and remembered that MC has left. Absolutely the right decision and I really wish him well, fingers crossed he forged a successful career in management, but probably the saddest I’ve felt about some United news for a long time. Genuinely class individual and in his own quiet way has been a strong and calming ever present presence at the club.
 

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Regarding Phelan, bear in mind that when he's SAF 2nd our back staff is filled with functioning people like Rene, and the old coaches. SAF might had everything working to a tee and just need Phelan to help him supervise and probably become a good cop to his bad cop or vice versa. Just like Mourinho long standing No. 2 is a fitness coach.

I think a good No.2 would complement what the No.1 is lacking, and if not they simply become the delegation of their No.1. They know what's expected, they know what the Head coach wanted, they know what to look out for and maybe they know their No.1 selection criteria.

So I don't think all No.2 is comparable between clubs.
 

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What does this have to do with his coaching career?
 

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Right decision, respect to him. McKenna and especially Phelan should do the same.
 

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Deep down I feel sorry for Carrick. Mckenna and him were brought in to replace Faria which had very big boots to fill. Then Ole came in, he filled the coaching staff mostly with with inept people who tanked at Cardiff and he told McCarricky to handle all coaching on their own. When pressure got high he fecked off for a holiday and let them on their own.

An inexperienced coach should make his bones elsewhere then come back and work his way to first team
 

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Right decision, respect to him. McKenna and especially Phelan should do the same.
Agree with this 100%. Was biting my teeth last two games seeing Darren fecking Fletcher working his way onto the coaching bench. Another one who needs to be put in his place and quickly by Ralf
 

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Feels like more than just a new coach coming in. With the hope of proper reform in the club, ole and Carrick leaving, it really feels like we are at the start of a new chapter for the club. Holding thumbs it’s a good one.
 

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Legend. He picked up the mess that Solskjaer left behind and left us in a much better place.
 

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What does this have to do with his coaching career?
He's been here he came here as a player.
He's been the head coach for 3 games, in which the team has done more than decently.
He's left immediately, maybe because of the results over the past years, maybe because he doesn't want to coach, or wants to prove himself elsewhere. Whatever the reason, he's quit on a high, and made things easier for the club and new manager.

Posts like devilish's are scummy. But he's had a literal 20 year run posting similarly. Just as consistent in producing awful posts as Carrick was at finding great passes.
 

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A lot of football fans are really a funny bunch of people.
A few weeks ago "fans" were furious and couldn't see the back of McKenna, Carrick and co fast enough. Now the same people are sad to see Carrick leave.
People should really learn to relax, and know that all teams / managers / players will go through good and bad times. No need to go overboard all the time.

Best of luck Carrick!
 

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Sad to see Carrick go and despite our good result last night, disappointment was the first emotion I felt this morning.

Him and others at the club were promoted to roles they didn’t have the experience for under Solskjaer and it’s only right a new manager would want to bring in some very experienced staff, which would marginalise Carrick’s role. No one likes being demoted but I feel he could have learned a lot under Rangnick.

After hearing his comments on what he believes is important regarding tactics, I feel it’s probably right for him to step down and have some time off. I’m sure he’ll do well.
 

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It’s ludicrous how much value we got out of that. He’s one of my favourites so I’m biased but he was literally the final piece. To get 10yrs and then some coaching all while not creating any issues is stuff that 18m can not really compensate.

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To be fair, if we got less coaching value from him, we would have extracted more overall value from that transfer. Coaching sucked for the last three years, and him with McKenna were the two in charge of coaching. So in that aspect, it was a net nagative.

He was a very good player though. I think that he was the best midfielder in the league in SAF’s last season and near as important for that title as RVP was. As a coach thought, I am happy that he won’t be here and hope the same happens with McKenna.
 

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Posts like devilish's are scummy. But he's had a literal 20 year run posting similarly. Just as consistent in producing awful posts as Carrick was at finding great passes.
Whatever happened to criticize the post and not the poster? And you are a scout here?
 
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