Rangnick gegenpress conference vs Palace (H)

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Interesting was his views on the next manager, he even threw his own hat into the ring it seemed.
 

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We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

Where’s this come from? :lol: Spoken like a man that would hire a plumber to do his electrics. Oh I’ve just clocked the username.
If you don’t think the Mourinho cult was more insufferable then that’s 100% your problem. He was a disgrace to this club and still received diety like status from afew “fans”. Guessing you were part of that cult?
 

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I don't want to be Debbie downer but he really reminds me of Sven Goran Erikson. I hope he's not a huge fraud.

"First half good. Second half not so good" etc
 

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Comparing seasons is asinine, United won the league with lower points than teams that finished 3rd before, did the team that finished 3rd have a better season than the team that finished as champions?
What is asinine was seeing the way we played last season, & using the league finish as an example of ‘progress’ then being surprised when performances decline further resulting in the collapse we saw this season.

If comparing seasons doesn’t matter, then why would people refer to finishing 3rd & 2nd?

That said, Ralf was good wasn’t he.
If you don’t think the Mourinho cult was more insufferable then that’s 100% your problem. He was a disgrace to this club and still received diety like status from afew “fans”. Guessing you were part of that cult?
I didn’t rate Mourinho during his time here either. I can think both managers did poorly, no?

Being shit is better than being absolutely shit but you’re still shit. ‘More insufferable’, how are we judging that? I don’t get either.

Again, I really like the Ralf conference.
 

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Jesus almight, this talk about who was what manager cult does my head in. Seriously people?
 

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I was excited when he spoke about "control" and how he wants the team to learn to control matches more. This has been my biggest criticism with how the team has played for a long time now. I feel like when we lose the ball, we don't try and win it back, we hope the other team gives us it back. Even in games where we have been on top and have looked much the better team, there are always spells where the opposition have a decent bit of possession and space. Even the worst teams in the league will force mistakes or produce moments of quality, if given enough opportunity to do so.

To have that machine like consistency that City, Liverpool have had in recent years you need to dispatch of inferior teams routinely. To do that you need to limit their opportunities with the ball. When I think back to the Fergie days, when we were on top, we penned teams in. We didn't give them a chance to get out of their own box, never mind their own half, which lead to us sustaining attack after attack.
 

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He exudes experience, calmness, savvy and realism.

I think he'll be great for us.
 

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Watched the full 30 mins, I really liked the press conference and the way he handled it. An intelligent man that's passionate about football is my first impression.
 

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I can’t see successive losses in the 2nd rate Europa League where he was out coached as a successes, Leicester in the FA Cup last season was tumescent, the regression once we hit top place, some of the big money signings. He finished 3rd then 2nd on points totals that don’t reflect greatly when compared to predecessors.

It’s not a snide remark, I don’t know the man personally but there are fans who don’t look at his time as manager the same way as you do - that’s ok.

You’re right with one thing though the club has moved on, should have done so some time ago though.

Ralfs presser was referencing though wasn’t it. Good luck to the man.
He also had to clear out a bunch of players, mend our fecked up wage structure, and very few people would disagree that the mood at the club in modern times had never been as low as right after Mourinho’s tenure, and Ole certainly helped turn that around.

I was very disappointed with how we did in cups too, and Ole clearly showed he wasn’t good enough to manage the club further in the end, but framing his time here as an unmitigated disaster is absolute nonsense.

On the point we do agree, the club has moved on. So why are you and other posters insisting on taking every chance to have a potshot at Ole? Seems like you guys can’t get over him. The fecking Ole-in/Ole-out tug-of-war made this place unbearable. Can we please just fecking stop?
 

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He also had to clear out a bunch of players, mend our fecked up wage structure, and very few people would disagree that the mood at the club in modern times had never been as low as right after Mourinho’s tenure, and Ole certainly helped turn that around.

I was very disappointed with how we did in cups too, and Ole clearly showed he wasn’t good enough to manage the club further in the end, but framing his time here as an unmitigated disaster is absolute nonsense.

On the point we do agree, the club has moved on. So why are you and other posters insisting on taking every chance to have a potshot at Ole? Seems like you guys can’t get over him. The fecking Ole-in/Ole-out tug-of-war made this place unbearable. Can we please just fecking stop?
Who said ‘unmitigated disaster’? A tad emotive & disingenuous. As for ‘potshots’, people are still vocalising their scars from the Moyes era, it’s a bit precious & unfair to say OgS is off limits when no one else is. It’s 2 weeks ago, people are still processing their thoughts & as a forum, should be able to do so without fear of the echo chamber. Go back to the comment I made & it wasn’t even the initial one but the pace has gathered.

Back to Ralf, I hope he does great things cause we need someone to unite behind. Good presser.
 

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I’m enjoying the positive feeling from the fans…it’s 99% moaning these days…so it’s a nice change.

But I hope fans are sensible, he can’t just talk to the players for 15 mins and change the last almost 10 years of failure.

6 months is not a lot of time especially when he is starting in the busy Xmas period.
 

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In the end what matters is what they ultimately deliver, not what is said in a press conference
Yeah we will have to wait and see if Rangnick does what Rangnick said. But he seems to have a clear idea on what he wants from day one. He thinks we don't need dodgy matches where both teams can win at anytime, we need control, we've been lacking control for years now.
 

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I've been mostly negative this season, as I knew Ole had taken us as far as he was capable of.
Zero trophies in 3 years is a poor return, especially after spending so much money.
This season, we have entered most of our matches as the underdogs, no matter who we play against it.

In any case, we've turned a page and I am going to be positive for the rest of the season. Hopefully, in a few months, we'll see major improvements.
 

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Hope he improves us at set pieces, we’re shocking at them.
In one of his talks on YouTube he says something along the lines of "30% of goals are scored from dead ball situations - Free Kicks, Corners etc, so you should practise defending and scoring from them - 30% of the time". We'll definitely work on them.
 

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He did say he studied to become an English and Ole Ole Ole I love you
It really is funny that we still can not type that :D The Ralf has an educational background of a P_E teacher, but it did not stop him from being able to transform football clubs. If anything being a PE teacher is an acknowledgement of a certain level of qualification rather than the lack of thereof.
 

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Lots of people liked Oles first press conference, and LVGs... and Joses..... anyway I'm interested to see what Rangnick can do, although he is going to need some time with this team
I loved all of LvG’s, and to be fair to Ole, it wasn’t until towards the end that his became really unlistenable.

Jose’s were grumpy from the start.
 

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Nice to see him talk about control with and without the ball. I am sure he has identified some quick changes we need to improve on that with player positions etc.
 

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Yeah we will have to wait and see if Rangnick does what Rangnick said. But he seems to have a clear idea on what he wants from day one. He thinks we don't need dodgy matches where both teams can win at anytime, we need control, we've been lacking control for years now.
In that sense he's quite similar to LVG
 

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When he speaks about bringing in 2 maybe 3 of his own coaching staff but tough due to brexit.

Didn't Klopp have an assistant that left couple years ago, chap with Long hair, worked at Dortmund as well. I remember Klopp speaking highly of him and how much influence he had on his teams/coaching.

What happend to him anyone know?
 

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Didn't Klopp have an assistant that left couple years ago, chap with Long hair, worked at Dortmund as well. I remember Klopp speaking highly of him and how much influence he had on his teams/coaching.

What happend to him anyone know?
Željko Buvač .

He's a DOF at Dynamo Moscow.
 

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I liked that he has a pretty decent sense of humor about him too- especially when asking the nonsense halland question. No struggles with the language, confident. Saying all the right things- but I mean so did Ole at the start. Hopefully this works out well; excited to see where it goes regardless !
 
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Who said ‘unmitigated disaster’? A tad emotive & disingenuous. As for ‘potshots’, people are still vocalising their scars from the Moyes era, it’s a bit precious & unfair to say OgS is off limits when no one else is. It’s 2 weeks ago, people are still processing their thoughts & as a forum, should be able to do so without fear of the echo chamber. Go back to the comment I made & it wasn’t even the initial one but the pace has gathered.

Back to Ralf, I hope he does great things cause we need someone to unite behind. Good presser.
Fine, somewhat exaggerated.

And people have been piling onto Ole for several years now, even when things were trending upward, and in the end the footy forums became so fecking overloaded with Ole that it’s made this place unbearable. In no way was this place as full of annoying de-railings under any other manager’s tenure. I would have thought people would be ready to move on by now, anything you could dream up has been said, repeatedly. And I don’t know about you, but as someone who’s followed United since the 90s, it’s grating to see all the gleeful belittling of a club legend. Some posters seem to think he was a player not good enough for the starting XI who happened to have a lucky toe-poke. Not saying that’s necessarily your take, for the record

Btw, if you don’t like disingenuous remarks maybe you shouldn’t claim Ole’s considered off limits. I’ve made my own posts pointing out my misgivings. I’m just sick of seeing every single fecking thread full of people posting this shit. I unignored this forum in the hopes it might get back to mainly being about United, but I guess I was overly eager to return.

I’ll leave it at that, because if I still come across as an unreasonable cultist then I don’t imagine anything I say or do would overturn that. Firmly behind your last paragraph.
 

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In that sense he's quite similar to LVG
Time will tell, I can't recall Van Gaal pointing out what he planned to do to get the best out of the players other than "My captain shall always play" though.
 

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We have to be careful here because almost all new managers sound good in their first press conference.

Moyes was the exception, you could tell from the first few seconds of his very first press conference as Utd boss that he was shitting himself and way out of his depth.
 

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Time will tell, I can't recall Van Gaal pointing out what he planned to do to get the best out of the players other than "My captain shall always play" though.
Controlling games is what he wanted and to a point achieved. But we lack attacking impetuous and were dull to watch. Saying that though he did not have the attacking quality in the squad we have now.
 

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He thinks and speaks so clearly, I love it. If this wasn't enough, look at his other interviews. Very little time for BS, just high bandwidth conversations.
 

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Sounds very similar to Klopp imo. Like they have very similar accents
Not a big surprise as they are both from Southwest Germany. They even have a similar (but different) accent in German.
 

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Cagey when asked about the future and you can’t really believe his response about just not having talked about it.The arrangement is this...I reckon....he will be here for 6 month...if it goes well...the arrangement allows for what he mentioned...staying on for another year to continue the work being done and make sure the team keeps going in the right direction. More importantly though, if things go somewhat tits up or not according to plan...the board can swoop in with a shiny new toy (Poch) to distract the fans and Ralf can do whatever the fuk else he does...being a consulometer or whatever.
 

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Wow... wow .. wow.. His presser shows volumes about where we are headed . You can tell this man has a brilliant mind. His handling of the conference was sublime and he oozes confidence. Things are looking up boys!!!!!!!!!
 

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He spoke with Ole for 2 hours before Chelsea game. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer loves our club and is a fecking legend.
Agreed. Solskjaer is a classy fella, a true club legend and I’ll sing his name with gusto in any ground I follow United to.

It doesn’t alter the fact that he was never, in a million years, going to usurp Guardiola, Klopp and Tuchel in this league, however. He did an admirable job building our best squad since Ferguson and removed a lot of toxicity from the club, but his shortcomings on the training pitch and the touchline on matchday we’re too numerous for the type of manager we require. No shame in that and both the club and Ole will benefit from the decision to part ways.