Now that McKenna has left, let's target Fletcher.
Darren Fletcher - Technical Director
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Let’s be honest none of us have a clue what the structure is, the club probably doesn’t either.
Ah yeah fantastic point. Being a good player doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be a good manager. I guess we need to sack him from the manager role he currently has. Well argued.
I wonder if there was too much redundancy in Murtough/Fletcher/Rangnick's future role and now they're just shoe horning him back into being a generic coach because he's an ex player and a nice guy etc etc
You don’t think Ralf, a notorious control freak and micro manager, has asked Fletcher to assist with his coaching? You think Fletcher is just doing whatever he wants?
If so, I have a bridge to sell you…
I'm not targeting anyone, but how many clubs have a Technical Director acting as an assistant manager? What has Fletcher achieved as a coach? He's only coached the under 16's.
Didn't we just sign that Ewan Sharp guy to be the assistant manager?
It just seems like muddled thinking all round. Not good.
apparently he was straight on the phone to them after the first training session offering greenwood and sancho to them for 5m€
Well Ralf has either asked for it or us ok with it
So Ralf and his trusted coaching team is asking fletcher to get his views and tactics across on the pitch?
Fletcher presence in the technical area is instructed by the senior management team IMO
That says more about you
Err.. no
Good to see your posts are equally shit when outside the F1 threads. If only we could start playing with such consistency.
I think it’s crazy how people are now turning on Fletcher yet are ok with MLS coaches coming in
here’s the thing, it doesn’t matter. Find something else to worry about in your lives
here’s the thing, it doesn’t matter. Find something else to worry about in your lives
We can only speculate but I’m leaning more towards the senior management team making the decision of including Fletcher in the technical area
This is absolute nonsense. Ralf is the manager. There is zero chance he would just let someone undermine him and take over the coaching of the team… that’s insane.
I have clarified in post 46.
You say it doesn't matter, I say it does. Muddled thinking is the last thing we need right now.
Cheers. I'd comment on your posts but I can't for the life of me remember any. Keep up the good work.
He was actually shouting something randomly in the air trying to make himself important tooAnyone see Fletcher giving instructions towards the end of the game and Mike Phelan leaning against the brick wall like he was some sort of security personnel
More concerned about Darren Fletcher than Chris Armas or Ewan Sharp… bizarre.
Do other clubs’ fans do this? Fixate on who the manager’s assistants are and what they do? I’m sure it’s just United’s weird fan base.
Who said fletcher is taking over the coaching of the team?
Have a read on post 7 what his role is
We must be the only fanbase in history who needs to know the intimate details of everyone's job from the U11s coach to the tea lady. I don't think there's a single person's opinion on this board regarding our coaching staff that isn't worth immediately discarding, because we don't know.
No they don't, it's absolutely mental.
Murtough's quote explaining Fletcher's role at the club is on the first page. You lot are mental.
I do see the point of wondering about the guy who got the job based on his history with the club and has since moved jobs with no one really understanding what he is actually doing, rather than the coaches brought in by the new, well respected manager.
If Rangnick is comfortable with that, why should anyone complain about it?
Fletcher was coach before he got new title and even Murtough said he will be helping both sides, him and coaching staff.
Ralf Rangnick boys got ManUtd job just because they were associated with RB clubs.
Well respected manager also didn't have problem having Fletcher in the dug out.
It's weird. First it was Carrck and McKenna, now Fletcher.
Somehow some of our fans knows in and out of coaching and what goes on training ground, which coach is good and bad.
No to what?
There's definitely going to be redundancy once Ralf goes into his consultancy role. Forget Fletcher, even just between him and Murtough. Normally there's no chance the sporting director would want to hire an interim manager who would then go on to take an almost identical role to them with a different job title. It's only happened because Murtough really rates Rangnick and wants to work with him.
No problems with Fletch but if he is an assistant coach, just call him an 'assistant coach'
Why all the fancy titles?
Why all the fancy titles?
Let Fletcher do his role more behind the scenes get rid of Phelan and bring in Keane as he's assistant
I was saying no because you insinuate that Fletcher is in his job because he’s a nice guy. I’m saying that’s nonsense. He’s a very smart guy who murtough hired. Him helping out at the sidelines is probably nothing more than developing Fletcher in various aspects
The coaching is just one aspect of his wide ranging role
Did you see Murtough quote? This is just one part of his job.
Ah right, fair enough. Yeah I saw the quote now.
I don't have issue with him coaching at all. Not now there's someone there with experience for them to learn from. I'd take Carrick back and ditch the MLS guy as well if given the choice.
But I think Rangnick becoming a second DOF will probably mean Fletcher will have to tread the path of the coach rather than the technical director long term.
Rangnick will be consultant, not DoF.
I never said or implied he needed to be sacked. No need to make stuff up and lie. You said that Fletcher “won lots of shit as a player” and I just told you why it holds no bearing on his current role.
I don’t know how it will work between murtough and RR. That is the question. But I would assume that Fletcher would still do his various roles as they are now
He will be a 'consultant' DOF.
Obviously they're not going to give him the same job title as Murtough. But the plan is for the two to work very closely together over the next 2 years.
If he's on the touchline it is because Ralf Rangnick says he should be on the touchline. His credentials are that Ralf Rangnick says he's useful to the team on matchday.
Ultimately it doesn't have to be any more difficult than that. As uninteresting as it is to analyse Darren Fletcher's CV and whether he ought to have spent 3 years at Millwall and then Brighton before taking this role, it is probably even less interesting to Ralf. His remit is to harness all his resources to the best effect for 6 months, he will be taking the staff as he sees them because that is efficient.
Ultimately it doesn't have to be any more difficult than that. As uninteresting as it is to analyse Darren Fletcher's CV and whether he ought to have spent 3 years at Millwall and then Brighton before taking this role, it is probably even less interesting to Ralf. His remit is to harness all his resources to the best effect for 6 months, he will be taking the staff as he sees them because that is efficient.
I knowWhere to even start with this