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This is dumb, we're trying to price him out of a loan when we should be wanting him to go.
Where are you getting that from?Yeah but he's gone, for free, in a few months, so it's skin off of our noses to the tune of a few million and potentially a midfielder addition this January that we will not get if we don't sanction the deal, in return we'll have a miserable player sat on the bench who will barely play for us, picking up a full wage safe in the knowledge he's gone in a couple months anyway so who cares
Bottom line is we are not hurting for the 2.5Million and Jesse is a useful squad member in case of emergencies. We were not looking to loan him out and are happy for his contract to expire, Newcastle came to us not the other way around and so I cannot comprehend why we are meant to be doing them a favour? Make it worth our while and you can have him but if you want to offer peanuts to sign someone who as of right now would be with the possible exception of ASM the best player in their squad then they can do one.Haha 15m for a 6 month loan is crazy. Instead we’re happy to have him cost us another 2.5m in wages.
Just loan him out
You would rather keep him and let the dressing room be disrupted and leaks continue?We're trying to actually get some money for him. Anyone complaining about us trying to fleece the richest club on the planet are a bit strange.
Lingard is not a useful squad member as we have seen time and time againBottom line is we are not hurting for the 2.5Million and Jesse is a useful squad member in case of emergencies. We were not looking to loan him out and are happy for his contract to expire, Newcastle came to us not the other way around and so I cannot comprehend why we are meant to be doing them a favour? Make it worth our while and you can have him but if you want to offer peanuts to sign someone who as of right now would be with the possible exception of ASM the best player in their squad then they can do one.
Prove all of that is Lingard's fault, I dare you. It's totally conjecture, we won't know until he's gone, even then we probably won't.You would rather keep him and let the dressing room be disrupted and leaks continue?
Where do you think "Lingard is angry at Man Utd for making his loan collapse" reports are coming from?Prove all of that is Lingard's fault, I dare you. It's totally conjecture, we won't know until he's gone, even then we probably won't.
It is a bit suss that all the same journalists who've been writing about Rangnick's unhappy camp have, within hours of each other, all put out stuff about Jesse's situation.Where do you think "Lingard is angry at Man Utd for making his loan collapse" reports are coming from?
I managed to get a clip of Ralf confirming the club's intention to sell him on TikTok. That's what he's annoyed at.It is a bit suss that all the same journalists who've been writing about Rangnick's unhappy camp have, within hours of each other, all put out stuff about Jesse's situation.
Karma’s a bitch isn’t it? After all the social media bullshit he’s done over the years, he finally gets a taste of his own medicine and he see’s his arse.
Starting to look like a punishment now, almost like we’re making an example of him for those thinking about running their contracts down.This is dumb, we're trying to price him out of a loan when we should be wanting him to go.
Why is it limited to the PL and that price point? We clearly differ on opinion of lingards quality - they'll spend more in a deal that makes sense.Who are they going to buy for that amount in the PL that is remotely close to Lingard's quality?
Newcastle have the money. It's not like we're asking for 100+ million now is it?
His people, obviously. I don't really count that as a leak, if you do fair enough. It's clearly his people talking to the press. I was thinking about the more general leaks than one obviously to do with Lingard.Where do you think "Lingard is angry at Man Utd for making his loan collapse" reports are coming from?
It's not about the quality, it's about the situation. They need a PL proven player to avoid relegation. 10-15 million for a player of Lingard's quality is a no brainer considering the situation they are in. And thing is everyone knows they have money so it's not like they can pretend to be poor as a church mouse.Why is it limited to the PL and that price point? We clearly differ on opinion of lingards quality - they'll spend more in a deal that makes sense.
They're one point off Norwich with a game in hand. They'll likely stay up regardless of the signing. We've played them twice and they've fixtures against all of our top four rivals.
We did similar with Rojo, Romero, Lingard in the summer, van de Beek and the same will happen with Tuanzebe, Henderson, Martial and Pereira. Overpay wages, miss the window to sell then overprice. Surprised so many people are seeing this as a Saudi money thing rather than a problem with the footballing side of the clubs decision making. Been a recurring theme for years now.
Exactly that.We're trying to actually get some money for him. Anyone complaining about us trying to fleece the richest club on the planet are a bit strange.
That is the problem right there. We're in the middle of negotiations and we have his entourage trying to put pressure on the club by riling up the fans.His people, obviously. I don't really count that as a leak, if you do fair enough. It's clearly his people talking to the press. I was thinking about the more general leaks than one obviously to do with Lingard.
The video is garbage and cuts off but it sounds like Ralf says he will leave in the summer anyway which leads me to think he may have said he's leaving now because he will leave in the summer anyway or to that point. Make's sense. Why keep him if he's not going to play and another team can use him. It's not like he can play against us if he leaves on loan. Stupid from the club.Tweet
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Can somebody just feck this idiot out of the club asap.
Its true that idiocy is not unique to us.Didnt they once put a 50m tag on Sean Longstaff?
It is not just Longstaff. Every time we ask for a player, many clubs quote silly prices. And then the same player goes for 60% of that price to some other team.Its true that idiocy is not unique to us.
That's probably because they've seen how much we've been willing to pay for Fred, Maguire, Wan-Bissaka its a long list.It is not just Longstaff. Every time we ask for a player, many clubs quote silly prices. And then the same player goes for 60% of that price to some other team.
Sounds like that video is cut off mid sentence, although hard to imagine what he could go on to say that'd change the point.
Can you elucidate with credible link, your assertion that it is Lingard "who goes running off to the media every time he feels upset about the smallest of issues!"I can’t believe we have 77 pages across two forums (and 44 pages in the Player Performance forum!) on this bang average player who has rarely done anything to justify any presence in the first team squad, who goes running off to the media every time he feels upset about the smallest of issues!
Sure it would have been nice to get some money for him but running off whingeing about how disrespected he is by his employers is pathetic! He is a symbol of everything that is wrong with the club at this point!
They're completely different players who play in different positions.I think his move to newcastle is off. They probably will sign Bruno Guimaraes instead.
True, but can Newcastle integrate so many new players in the team in such a short time?They're completely different players who play in different positions.
I'm sure their motto is buy now, integrate later.True, but can Newcastle integrate so many new players in the team in such a short time?
a punishment? He sighed a contractStarting to look like a punishment now, almost like we’re making an example of him for those thinking about running their contracts down.
Swear to God, if he’d had a goal for every time his camp proclaims that he’s upset, he’d be well on his way to break Messi’s calendar year record for most goals, and we’re still in January….Tweet
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Can somebody just feck this idiot out of the club asap.