I agree that those are Morata‘s strengths. He is also better than that meme he has become. But looking at the current Barca squad they need a goalscorer. And Auba can be just that.
How do Barcelona rebuild?
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But not without the employee's consent. If Dembele doesn't violate his contract and doesn't want to terminate it Barca can't decide on that unilaterally.
Barcelona are 5 points off Betis, having played a game less, and 1 point off Atletico. They're not in such risk of missing out on 4th that they need to give a contract to a player that looks a bit finished.
There is also something odd about spending 55m on the relatively unproven Ferran Torres at the same time.
One of my first posts here at redcafe was just before the League started, and I explained my thoughts and one thing I praised about the previous board of directors was their work on the academy.
Now we are talking about the first team and that is where he deviated from the path, not through the academy where the Rosell board of directors had many successes and then Bartomeu continued.
I personally don't know who I would choose today because Auba is a bit crazy and I haven't seen him play for a long time. I also don't know if he presses hard to get the ball back.
In the short time that Xavi has been a coach, one of his characteristic plays is the CB pass to the center forward. I remember a game in which Lenglet passed several times towards Depay and he was not able to control any ball and in others they anticipated him.
That's why Morata's choice doesn't surprise me at all.
Imagine Auba, Adama and Dembele playing at the same time. Honesty wonder how it'll all work out but it'll be an intriguing watch
I don’t know, I think Torres was a tidy signing assuming he’ll be used correctly. But obviously we will have to wait and see how he pans out.
I think they're in store for a long ride in the bid to be successful again, a bit like us. Similarly to Utd, they will need the right manager and to recruit wisely. How long that takes depends on the quality of their decision making.
No they're not. Their is no coherent thought behind their signings at all. You're the new Manchester United, with more debt.
Torres was expensive condidering is status but it could work. Aubamayang is a real mystery though, I don't see how is going to fit in Xavi's gameplan at all. I mean, it would be fine on loan for the rest of the season but if they sign him for real, i just don't understand what the vision is. He's very average when a team doesn't play transition football. Lacazette is far better in a sort of Barcelona like style.
Barcelona signed Torres and tried Morata. With those players Barcelona could perfectly have the midfield and forward of the Spanish national team. That is to have a plan, to sign players who already have automatisms acquired by having played together before and with a style of play similar to what Barcelona wants. That's coherence.
Adama is an academy player and already knows and trained the style of Barcelona, that's coherence.
But I repeat again, this summer will see the path taken by the Barcelona project.
You are making claims based on bringing in some loan players because there is no other option.
And regarding Manchester United there are some important differences.
Barcelona has a defined style, and players for that style: Pedri, Nico, Gavi, De Jong, Fati... And they know which players to sign. And most importantly, in Barcelona there is ambition and mediocrity is not allowed, because if you don't compete the president and coach are quickly fired.
Someone like Woodward would only hold his position for a couple of years and that's being optimistic, and neither Mourinho nor Ole would be almost 3 years as coach each.
You just have to see this transfer window, Barcelona without money being able to bring in players and United also playing for fourth place and some other competitions and without making any kind of movement.
Kind of weird there hasn’t been an oil club in Spain to take on the big two. Valencia seem like prime candidates or Sevilla.
Yet, here we are in the Premier League with a 3rd billionaire takeover. Just weird that Spain and Italy are swerving this.
I would rather our lack of business than Traore - a painfully average speed merchant/ball carrier - and Auba. A mercenary, over the hill, unmotivated chump. That is most definitely not 'knowing which players to sign.' As for ambition and mediocrity not being allowed, look at where that's got you. Spent your way to the brink of financial ruin, but yeh, that's 'ambition. Mes que un chiste.
I loved the signing of Ferrán, Adama seemed reasonable to complete the squad and bring comitted players from Masía,
but Aubameyang is 5 years late and Laporta celebrating as if they had signed Haaland at the last minute. He certainly knows how to sell hope
but Aubameyang is 5 years late and Laporta celebrating as if they had signed Haaland at the last minute. He certainly knows how to sell hope
You've spent the whole window chasing Morata who is known for his link up play and you've ended up with muscle boy and Aubemeyang, a player who couldn't link up the play like his previous two managers wanted him and was shunted out to the left because of it, a position for which you already have multiple players.
This is a transfer policy without a footballing vision. You've been doing it for years now. Coutinho was supposed to be an Iniesta replacement, but everyone with two brain cells knows they're wildly different types of player. Griezmann operates in the exact same spaces as Messi. De Jong excels in Busquets' position, yet he is being asked to be some sort of attacking midfielder that makes runs into the box.
Come on mate, Adama might be trained at Barcelona but you couldn't pick a winger in PL that fits less the theoretical Barcelona style, have you seen him play in the past 2 years?
It is true that more or less signing / fielding the Spanish national team is a plan.
The Spanish national team hasn't won anything in a while, though, and even during their 'great' Euros run they drew most games.
So I don't know that this is a particularly great plan.
The Spanish national team hasn't won anything in a while, though, and even during their 'great' Euros run they drew most games.
So I don't know that this is a particularly great plan.
Plus a player (Dembele) they spent £120million but cant wait to get rid of. Otherwise its the definition of transfer coherence.
They are the last club on this planet to lecture on transfer dealings and club vision.Creative accounting maybe.
There are more than 3 billionaire owners in the PL. Half of the league have their own billionaire owner at this point.
Yes, but only a handful are spending like they are owned by billionaires. I gess 'Oil-clubs' or 'state-sponsored' would be a better descriptor.
Aubameyang should be a pretty good signing and seal that top 4 spot, has scored goals in varying circumstances.
He's well past his best now imo and seems to have semi retired anyway. Can't see his motivation picking up significantly. He'll score goals but won't be the man to get them contending for any serious trophies any time soon.
The money that Barcelona had for transfers in the January market was spent on Ferrán Torres, then Adama and Aubameyang came for free as short-term patches to get the top 4.
Where you can see the path that Barcelona wants to take is where they spend the money. The other signings are short-term solutions and free until the summer arrives, when the team can continue to be remodeled.
I prefer a club that looks for solutions to achieve its objectives, if you prefer that United have not made any moves in winter, that's fine with me. Each person has their opinion and is respectable.
I have already said several times and also everyone knows that Bartomeu lost his way during the last 4 years. These are other directors and they have no responsibility for the players you are talking about, they did not sign them.
Griezmann does not occupy the same space as Messi, his problem is that the position in which he shone at Atlético de Madrid does not exist at Barcelona. The only way to fit him in would be perhaps by playing as Ajax and him in the VDB position. Busquets and De Jong playing CM and Griezzman ahead of them.
I don't like Adama at all, he seems to me to be a player with zero technical quality, but Xavi asked to bring him and he also went to the Spanish team.
Barcelona faced several difficulties such as Ansu Fati's injury and Dembélé's non-renewal and they had to bring in someone who fit in with the reduced salary margin.
Barcelona tried to sign Adeyemi but the player prefers Borussia Dortmund.
Tell me which teams have played better football than Spain in the last European Championship and Nations Cup.
And what do you want to do with dembélé? renew him for a large amount of money when don't deserve it?Plus a player (Dembele) they spent £120million but cant wait to get rid of. Otherwise its the definition of transfer coherence.
Creative accounting maybe.
Bartomeu's errors must be computed to him and his Board of Directors, these are others.
The same thing happens to United with Pogba, a player who has performed well below what was paid. And we'll see how things end.
If Barca's objectives were to nearly bankrupt themselves and set themselves back five years on the pitch then no need to look any further, solutions already found. I prefer a model that keeps our club financially solvent and not spending absurd sums on players like Dembele, Coutinho and Griezemann. Or were they part of the solutions you're talking about?
Are you really comparing Pogba's time at United to Dembele's? Leaving aside the fact that Dembele cost significantly more, the performances of the two are chalk and cheese (and I'm not even a massive Pogba fan). Must be tricky to defend Barca at the moment. You know you're in trouble when even us United fans are laughing.
Griezmann at his best occupies the same pockets of space as Messi, behind the CF a little to the right. That's where they look for through balls etc.
My point with including past examples is to show the continuation of cluelessness. I also explained why the current signings aren't part of a cohesive plan.
In Adama's case, the signing is entirely a gamble, hoping he'll magically develop end product.
Barca's 'plan' at the moment seems to be desperately picking through the bargain bins and seeing who they can pick up cheap.
This made me chuckle. Wonder where Aguero fitted in to Barca's much vaunted plans for solution and coherence. Or maybe, just maybe, they grabbed him because he was free...
I don't mind the Adama signing, it's a loan, the risk isn't huge and he can bring a bit of energy on the right wing, I'm just saying that he's not even remotely il the barcelona mold even if he was trained there.
By buying dickloads of expensive, second rate players, apparently.
They didn't win anything. They lost the Euros and the Nations Cup. They drew most games in the Euros, at least in regular time. Don't you think this is a bit important?
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The fact is, ‘rebuilding’ will always mean something different for clubs like Barcelona to us. There is quite simply a limit to which they will fall.
Barcelona and Real Madrid have been the two best teams in Europe in recent times, expected to win the CL most seasons. They have been far off that level in lately, yet they still manage to pick up domestic titles. They play in a league that has 4 CL slots. It is extremely difficult for them to fail to qualify for the CL from that league. I say this to say, any demise of theirs is heavily diluted in the first place due to the league they play in. If they were here, the 20 - 25% they have dropped in recent years would be more illuminated. In real terms, it would have them looking like Arsenal or us. Barcelona and Real wouldn’t get away with being shit and still qualifying for the CL every year. So in terms of rebuilding, they will always only have to pick themselves up from their knees - not from the floor. They will always attract decent players because the illusion of their decline isn’t as stark - during a period in which they are getting battered 8-1 or whatever it was in the CL, they could still feasibly win a La Liga title. So players would always be looking at joining the ‘Spanish champions’ or runner up, and be most likely guaranteed CL football, even if they are a shadow of themselves. As long as they hover at that sort of level, they will never be more than a couple of good moves away from returning, as their league doesn’t allow them to fall away completely anyway. There is no way a La Liga winning Real Madrid team should not be considered amongst the favourites for the CL, but that is where they are.
Barcelona and Real Madrid have been the two best teams in Europe in recent times, expected to win the CL most seasons. They have been far off that level in lately, yet they still manage to pick up domestic titles. They play in a league that has 4 CL slots. It is extremely difficult for them to fail to qualify for the CL from that league. I say this to say, any demise of theirs is heavily diluted in the first place due to the league they play in. If they were here, the 20 - 25% they have dropped in recent years would be more illuminated. In real terms, it would have them looking like Arsenal or us. Barcelona and Real wouldn’t get away with being shit and still qualifying for the CL every year. So in terms of rebuilding, they will always only have to pick themselves up from their knees - not from the floor. They will always attract decent players because the illusion of their decline isn’t as stark - during a period in which they are getting battered 8-1 or whatever it was in the CL, they could still feasibly win a La Liga title. So players would always be looking at joining the ‘Spanish champions’ or runner up, and be most likely guaranteed CL football, even if they are a shadow of themselves. As long as they hover at that sort of level, they will never be more than a couple of good moves away from returning, as their league doesn’t allow them to fall away completely anyway. There is no way a La Liga winning Real Madrid team should not be considered amongst the favourites for the CL, but that is where they are.
Very weird energy to brag about how competitive is EPL, when that's the reason why United can't compete anymore.
If not for oil money, United could have won 1 PL under Ole, as the league would be less competitive without Chelsea and City.
I hope you are not the ones who complain about oil money, then brags about how competitive is the EPL, cause that's due to oily Chelsea and City.
I said what I said, and I didn’t say what I didn’t.
Getting in Aubameyang is a strange choice, especially when they are in the rebuilding process. They must know better.
Traore-Aubameyang-Torres is a dramatic improvement over Dembele-L.de Jong-Depay
This is just so weird. I'd have laughed in your face had you said Barca would release Messi and sign Depay, Adama Traore and Auba last year.
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