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Rangnick press conference | Middlesborough (H) | FA Cup
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
What the hell? What does he think the roles of moderators are?
I hope you’re joking
See one of his tweets a few down from this, going on about his head again whilst doing some modelling pics.
The guy is just weird
Lingard was on holiday although he said later that he's ready to go?
According to the Athletic podcast, Lingard did not want to go until recently, until Newcastle came in and offered to double his wages or some such thing and then suddenly he wanted to leave. United asked for a loan fee + 10M in survival bonus, which Newcastle refused. United were willing to let Martial and Donny leave as they were on good terms but apparently all these "Sources close to a player said xxx.... " leaks were coming from Jesse's entourage, so they weren't motivated enough to work with him so he can get paid more elsewhere for a paltry loan fee.
People can be on international duty and be ready to move clubs.
Every time i see that word entourage.... Ugh.. Imagine, Lingard has an entourage. In other words he acted like a cnut?
I'm guessing someone at the club said would you like to take a couple of days off and Lingard has said yes, so he can technically say he was offered it and they can say it was his decision.
I saw that, wtf was that. There are 4 pics of him modelling
His brother or someone like that has been talking to media.
So, if the fans dont have extensive knowledge, why don't you leave the club to do their research?
Firstly, we have an interim manager so you don't know what the incoming manager would want? So you will be filling a squad space for someone the manager might not want?
Secondly, the club have more faith in McFred doing a better job for 4 months than a new signing, who might take a couple months to settle?
Finally, since Ralf has come in our 2 best players have potentially been McFred.
We have a vital need, a change in formation means Pogba coming back can play in the 8 too.
I can only assume he's telling the truth. Wasn't there an incident like this with martial as well. Maybe not necessarily RR lying, but told what to say from above. Why haven't the club/RR come out and denied it? Some weird going ons at the club.
Deary me, trying to decide what's worse, their decision making on fashion or their decision making on the pitch.Head not quite clear yet
Basically because he's leaving, he doesn't give a sh1t what he says anymore and whether it causes issues with the manager or the club. He's off in the summer anyway.
Aaah, none of this drama come summer. It is really close.
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I assume that Murtough is at board level.
How is honesty hilarious.Ralf's honesty is hilarious
Seems logical that if the club wanted him available (and denied him a move) due to Greenwood’s absence that they would ask him to go be unavailable for a little while longer. It’s commonplace that clubs ask their players to take time off after just having had time off. Yep, sounds reasonable to me, I’m team Jesse on this.
Yes, another moaner. He really thinks he is better than he is.
To be fair it wouldn't surprise me if Lingard was clearly and vocally unhappy with the situation and was basically told to calm down away from the team, so that he doesn't cause more unrest in the team.
It could well be a situation where Lingard didn't explicitly ask for time off, but that Rangnick tried to be diplomatic about a heated discussion so that everyones face could be saved.
So when we stay true to the exact words I actually tend to believe Lingard but I assume that he more or less said something closer to "feck all this" instead of "might I have a few days off?"
But then he would be talking nonsense with the “my headspace is clear” part of the tweet.
Let me rephrase, for clarity. There’s no way that Jesse Lingard’s entire tweet is the truth. Either he’s asked for time off or he’s been told to sort himself out, in which case his head isn’t clear.
A fully motivated player who has just been off on a break in Dubai wouldn’t be asked to take a couple more days off.
And even if his entire tweet was true, it’s troublesome that he feels the need to publicly go against his manager and employer to preserve his own public image.
Not necessarily as we don't know when this conversation happened or what happened. This may have happened on Monday and he felt okay on Wednesday for all we know. I suspect both of them are telling their own truth but without any knowledge of the situation it sounds like a communication thing, similar to with Martial.
It doesn't mean him or Martial are completely free of any blame but I can understand them wanting to clear up a narrative that they believe is unfair.
Well if he was reprimanded, it's good that Rangnick is keeping it inside the club, which is maybe why he said this to the media. Lingard wanting to continue with this argument is not good for him or the club.
Just play football and keep your opinions to yourself and not upset the rest of the dressing room.
Fully agree with your last sentence. But the question if he has a clear head might just be a subjective thing - Lingard might think he has that, while Rangnick might strongly disagree on this.
He might have been told he is moaning and groaning about not getting his move, so then it is still on his mind and his head is not clear.
I don't think his family would bother moving over when he's only there for a few months in the middle of a global pandemic.
He's off in a few months, I doubt he has any interest in being in Ralf's good books.
Oh okay. Thanks.
I would assume and honestly hope that the both the club and RR are not going to stoop to responding to the drivel Jesse posts on his social media. If they did respond in any way it would only prompt more denials from Jesse and "sources inside the dressing room" crap from the likes of Luckhurst. The best way to deal with a serial self publicist like Jesse is to ignore him.
Im more inclined to believe anything that doesnt immediately go their own way would be "unfair" by their reckoning.
I honestly don't see anything wrong with that fashion. It's not my style but it's just very common to see out there.
The club should be bollocking the player and maybe a fine then if hes lying and undermining the board and/or RR. If you or I contradicted the truth with a lie at work, we would be dealt with severely. Thats why I'm a bit sceptical, especially thinking about the promises Ole gave players to stay for example.
Not my style either but i'm not one to talk since i have no fashion sense either
Charlie McNeill wouldn't be getting near this would he?
Neither do i, manNot my style either but i'm not one to talk since i have no fashion sense either
. I'm just a shirt/t-shirt and chino guy.As per Rangnick, Lingard did not say he wanted to leave in Jan window
10 days before window close, he said he wants to leave
Club discussed with interested parties, but could not come to an agreement
Meanwhile Greenwood problem cropped up, with club now needing one more attacking player in the squad, just 1-2 days before window close
Given that agreement never happened, club suspended anymore discussions.
As per Rangnick: Lingard needed time off to clear his head. Club obliged.
As per Lingard: He didn't need any time off. He was 100% professional and ready. Club asked him to take time off.
Though not sure why he took it if he was clear in his head and ready.
What was Lingard thinking? His tweet achieves nothing apart from being divisive and creating headlines.
He really shouldn't be.