Another Ole sympathizer using 3 years and 400m with a guy who barely had 3 months with no transfers, covid outbreak, and a police case against one of his best finishers at the club.
We hired Ralf to help dig us out of the mess that Ole had put us in, top was always a bonus because of how we had fallen. Of course Ole's starts would look better because he built the squad to fit how he wanted to play and Ralf was always going to struggle because he being asked to perform miracles using someone else's tools - if Ralf was the one making decisions in the summer maybe he doesn't spend that much on Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo.
They are your stats. Stats are only useful if being applied correctly. I remenber you had no clue how to look at stats and randomly bucketed all competitions, including ones Rangnick wasn't even involved in to try and argue against him.
Ole wasn't sacked for his form over three years, he was sacked for his form from August to November after spending another bucket load of money. It's entirely possible that Ralf is being hampered by Ole's incompetence in squad construction because he hasn't spent a dime on players that influence his tactics and attitudes of certain players were allowed to rot under Ole.
Top Red post!!!!
King of the “small sample size argument”… so, conveniently, you are evaluations Ole only on this season?
No it wasn’t. There is a reason why xG became a hot topic is because we were constantly scoring more than that.
His point is that world class managers can have slow starts. And one could infer from this that it may not be the best idea just going off a win loss record with no context.
Please stop derailing the thread with your bickering. Clearly you can use certain stats to make decent pro and anti RR arguments, but the condescension and insults aren't needed.
I agree with the tenor of this.
Its not a personal attack. Im "attacking" the shit post.
Noted. Ive just blocked the poster now. Happy to move on, apologies.
Sounds best for all.
Exactly! At the very least, we should've been 3-0 up at halftime. Ralf's football is getting us those chances. It's not his fault the players can't finish them. The first half was excellent flowing football. It's also not his fault that he has a Matic who can't last more than 60 and a just back from a long injury, Pogba who also can't manage more than 60. It's the board's fault for not backing Ralf by at least getting a decent midfielder in the window. Didn't have to be a world-beater, just someone who could shoulder the burden and give other players a rest. Zakaria was a no-brainer for me. Ralf's also not helped by Greenwood of course and the fact Cavani may as well be the mascot (though he'd probably say he's too injured to even do that). Then of course Rashford is playing like complete trash. All of which means Ralf has to rely on Ronaldo, who to be fair should've had a hattrick today and continues to miss multiple chances per game. But at least we're creating these chances now, unlike latter days with Ole, where we used to go a whole game without creating a decent one. It was the same with Ralf at the start but you can clearly see how much better we're playing now. But for our players not being able to finish their dinner, we'd be on a great run right now. Not sure you can really blame Ralf that we aren't.
Its terrible luck for any manager to walk in and see two big names drop out for their own reasons (martial and greenwood) and then not being able to call upon another big name for being a crock (Cavani).
I stated clearly in these posts, I naively thought it was class. The evidence in front on my eyes of the individual performances is impossible to ignore, it’s shite.
I don’t think that’s true at all. Anyone defending Ralf for the result yesterday is stating we played well, yet how can the manager account for Bruno missing 2 absolute sitters, Ronaldo missing 2 absolute sitters, Elanga missing an absolute sitter?
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Thanks but I think you're confusing seasons slightly. I had us down for a distant 4th this year when most were talking of title challenges. Mainly because we were ignoring the huge hole in midfield again which I saw as the priority. Ole had to go because he was getting results worse than that.
Who is doing this and where is this happening? We're dropping points due to shit tumescent embarrassing finishing in so many of these games, not all of them, but plenty of them. We're creating countless chances in most games, not all, but most, and making a total mess of it. It doesn't take a genius to see it, but most level headed people can see what's going on. It's infuriating and disappointing to watch over and over.
No denying that’s probably the easiest introduction run of games any prem manager has ever had or could have wished for.
In a hypothetical world where Guardiola / Klopp take on the interim job, would they have done better than RR with this squad, with this board, with this astronomical overpaid players, and under all the circumstances we were in in October?!
That's pretty grim.
He's probably being sarcastic. It's aimed at the people who wanted Solskjaer out asap due to the bad results right after he got the permanent gig (2 wins out of 8 in the PL) and a rather tragic first half of the 19/20 season (P:19, W:7 D:7 L:5), but are more willing to give Ralf the benefit of the doubt.
Even our PL stats this season show us gaining 1.42 points per game with Ole and 2 points per game under Ralf. Ralf actually is doing better even than Conte in that regard.I am starting to see Ole is better coach than Ralf now?! Caf has reached amazingly stupid heights that I thought was impossible.
And it's the usual stats Andies too, let's ignore the circumstances, the way our general play improved a lot from Ole and just look at stats, let's be dim about it! How can people look so simplistic at football? Bloody hell.
Norwich? Lost to them last time, I call that progression
Jesus Christ, 5? out of 19 big chances? Imagine if we actually had players that are not freaking selfish. We'd be above Chelsea now.
And it's not just about the finishing. We often lose any kind of momentum and allow the opposition defences to breathe more easily because, on numerous occasions, our players go for the spectacular (and surrender possession) when the easy pass/decision on the ball is actually the better option.
