BeforeKeanetherewasRobson
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Thinking back, I don’t remember Keane doing feck all in the final v Bayern.
Seriously tarnished my view of him.
Seriously tarnished my view of him.
Also didn't perform in MoscowThinking back, I don’t remember Keane doing feck all in the final v Bayern.
Seriously tarnished my view of him.
We tried to replace him with Foster already by 2009. We, and he, knew that the time was coming. However, he was still really good in his last two seasons. Give me any day VDS 09-11 over De Gea 2018-now. And VDS was never the highest paid gk in the world..To be fair VDS in his final year was kinda massively declined so the goals we conceded vs Barcelona 2011 wasn’t really the best version of VDS, prime VDS could save them. I remember he made huge mistake against Everton or something in that early season which cost us 3 points. That’s why he announced a retirement because he knew he reached his limit.
Unpopular view but some of Chelsea's penalties that night were really poor and should have been saved. Thankfully he saved the one that mattered.Made the save that mattered in Moscow
VDS made about 12 saves over the course of those games. He was awesome but that’s a massively flawed statistic to evidence it.Get out. Edwin is our greatest ever, I won't be convinced otherwise. Some are you are forgetting we went 1300 minutes without conceding in 2009, and not to mention the Anelka penalty save that won us the CL.
Schmeichel is probably our most overrated, and was a Judas to boot.
Saves arent necessarily the definitive bench mark. De Gea makes a lot of saves but you’d argue he does himself no favours by putting himself in positions through his poor distribution and general positioning that forces him to make saves. I’d say that stat was also a testament to VDS’ calming influence, leadership and organisational capabilities with the back 4.VDS made about 12 saves over the course of those games. He was awesome but that’s a massively flawed statistic to evidence it.
The midfield and defence deserves the most plaudits for that run.
This.V.D.S was absolutely solid, rock solid. Organised, commanding, calming presence. Capable shot stopper if not world class.
Schmeichel was over rated too? I wonder if you are making that comment from being a bitter as he ended his career at City? If not, deary deary me, I cant read anymore of this thread its so ridiculousGet out. Edwin is our greatest ever, I won't be convinced otherwise. Some are you are forgetting we went 1300 minutes without conceding in 2009, and not to mention the Anelka penalty save that won us the CL.
Schmeichel is probably our most overrated, and was a Judas to boot.
Schmeichel was shocking in the first half of treble season after he announced his retirement. So bad that Fergie ordered him to take a 2 week break and he came back a keeper reborn. Saving "that penalty" from Bergkamp in the FA Cup when Giggsy went on his solo goal when we were down to 10 men. Edwin was great.Watching a 'compilation' of someone's career is always pointless and offers a completely skewed perspective. My 8 year old has just got into United and recently watched (okay, was forced to watch!) the highlights of the treble season. I wanted to give him some proof that we were actually a good team, once! He now thinks Schmeichel is a complete donkey (because there are SO MANY absolute howlers during that season that seem to outweigh the moments of pure genius), he can't understand what I see in Keane (because he doesn't feature that much), nor why I've never even mentioned Jesper Blomqvist (because watching the highlights of 99, he looks like Pele).
Agreed. Stupid and pointless thread.He was brilliant. Perfect for the team we had back then.
I'm a little baffled at how fans think players are that concerned about people's opinions of them. Any top level professional footballer has had tens of thousands of fans just like us scream abuse at them every other week, in some cases for decades. I doubt they give a sh!t.I’m sure he’s devastated.
There were some people who thought SAF was past it basically every season since 2010.Just the other day I posted in the Bruno Fernandes thread that if Scholes would be playing today, people would still find faults with him.
This thread basically confirms that.
His fault that the run ended, which is the fairest way of judging him onGet out. Edwin is our greatest ever, I won't be convinced otherwise. Some are you are forgetting we went 1300 minutes without conceding in 2009, and not to mention the Anelka penalty save that won us the CL.
Schmeichel is probably our most overrated, and was a Judas to boot.
Yeah I think many fans overrate the players that play for the club they support. Although some do the opposite and underrate them.Worth noting that the players most likely to be overrated are the ones we rate the highest. Saying an extremely highly rated player is overrated doesn't mean they weren't very good.
Some of the responses here are far too precious.
Dude did Dave like refuse to give you an autograph or something? We could be on a boxing thread and you’d find a way to tell us how crap he is haha.He was everything DDG is not and more.
He was a supreme organiser who let that do most of his work, 90% of the keepers job is done away from the ball and he was great at it. The other 10% he was brilliant at too.
DDG is probably the most over rated keeper ever in the history of the game.
Edwin would improve our current defence and Dave would make that back line worse. Controlling the penalty area is so much more important that simply reaction to shots quicker. Guy never appeared flustered and constantly talked to his defenders.Was terrible in those finals but immense for us.
His kicking was class. Controlled the penalty area well. Ate crosses. Communicated.
He wasn't the best shot stopper but didn't have to be with Brown, Rio, Vidic, Evra.