Signing players who are out of contract

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Mbappe, Kessie, Brozovic, Modric, Romagnoli, Dembele, Rudiger, Belotti, Perisic, Onana, Christensen, Dybala, Tolisso.....

All those players will be out of contract this summer. Why we never try to get some of those players? We signed only Zlatan for free and that was because Mourinho insisted on him and used his relationship with Zlatan.
I know that they are not completely "free" and you need to give some cash to player and agent but some of those players are in best football age and are worth a lot on transfer market. On top of that, this year some of those free agents are exactly what we need (Rudiger, Kessie or Brozovic).

Last few years, other top clubs signed some very useful players in this way. Real signed Alaba, Barca just signed Kessie, PSG signed Donnarumma and Ramos, Chelsea signed Thiago, Juve signed Rabiot....
 

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Mbappe, Kessie, Brozovic, Modric, Romagnoli, Dembele, Rudiger, Belotti, Perisic, Onana, Christensen, Dybala, Tolisso.....

All those players will be out of contract this summer. Why we never try to get some of those players? We signed only Zlatan for free and that was because Mourinho insisted on him and used his relationship with Zlatan.
I know that they are not completely "free" and you need to give some cash to player and agent but some of those players are in best football age and are worth a lot on transfer market. On top of that, this year some of those free agents are exactly what we need (Rudiger, Kessie or Brozovic).

Last few years, other top clubs signed some very useful players in this way. Real signed Alaba, Barca just signed Kessie, PSG signed Donnarumma and Ramos, Chelsea signed Thiago, Juve signed Rabiot....
Brozović signed new contract with Inter few days ago.
 

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I know. That is a reason why i made this thread. Creative dmc for free. I mean, exactly what we need. But we didn't even try (i guess).
1. We don’t know that
2. He seems happy at inter, always indicated that he would sign a new contract if offered
3. We don’t have a new manager yet
 

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Mbappe too expensive. Kessie probably didn't want to come.
dybala and dembele will be too expensive too.
perisic and modric too old.
From that list, I think now only Belotti and Rudiger are worth the effort.
 

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How do you know we've not tried to sign these players?
 

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I’d go for Rudiger, but I think we’d want him plus another CB, rather than just him. In an ideal world we’d flog Maguire to make room, but in this world it’ll have to be Bailly.
 

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All of these ''free'' signings will have large sign on fees and wages, it's mostly just a way for the player and agent to get more money out of the deal.
 

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All of these ''free'' signings will have large sign on fees and wages, it's mostly just a way for the player and agent to get more money out of the deal.
Yes but between that and buying a player who has a year or more left on his contract, what is more expensive for clubs ?
 

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Kessie should have been pursued in my opinion.

A lot of the others don't look so attractive to me. Age, potentially getting them for all the wrong reasons if they're a certain profile and already at a big club, or simply not very likely.

That's always a concern because when they're leveraging themselves by running contracts down it becomes a bit more likely the payday is foremost in their mind. It doesn't mean they're automatically going to be a disaster but you certainly can get burnt and I think you really have to do your homework on them.

It might be time to reset our squad with players that have plenty to prove and move away from some of the mega bucks contracts, we've become a bit of a soft touch for players to sit on huge contracts offering little performance or effort.
 

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All of these ''free'' signings will have large sign on fees and wages, it's mostly just a way for the player and agent to get more money out of the deal.
Yeah pretty much.

It's no coincidence a lot more players are running down their contracts, no doubt at the behest of their agents who are insisting a huge pay day for everyone involved.
 

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Mazraoui is an interesting one. Both our RBs aren’t good enough right now. We’re considering Ten Hag as our next manager and he’s apparently good enough to have Barca and Bayern Munich interested.
 

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I’ve said on here lots of times over the past few months that we could realistically sign Mazraoui, Rudiger, Kamara, Kessie, Dembele and Lacazette all on frees and IMPROVE our starting eleven but the problem we have as a club these days is that we’re REACTIVE and not PROACTIVE so probably haven’t even approached any of those players.
 

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Nothing new in Manchester, the board and many fans have one thing in common: Players must cost a lot of money!
This club thinks giving away money will bring success, but all you get is mercenaries. The board should start looking for the right players, not for the most expensive ones. And do not tell me, we must wait till we have a new manager. A club with an identity knows what kind of manager and what kind of player should be brought in.
 

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Because the board have no interest to sign a single player until the permanent manager arrive.
 

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Yes but between that and buying a player who has a year or more left on his contract, what is more expensive for clubs ?
It's easier to sell on a player that doesn't work out if he's not on obscene wages. You also don't have to deal with other players in the squad demanding parity.
 

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We should be all in on Rudiger.
Why on earth is he going to come to us if we aren't in the CL though unless we pay him like 300k a week which we shouldn't be doing.

Rudiger will end up at Bayern, PSG, Juve, Barca or Madrid.
 

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He won’t sign a new contract with Chelsea because he wants a big day so no he can feck off. These high wages are a part of the problem we have at Utd.

There is nothing wrong with paying good players a high wage. Rudiger is (one of) the best centre backs in the league. He deserves to be getting high wages. Maguire for example is worth the wages he is getting, neither are Rashford/Martial/Mata/Lingard and others.

Manchester United very likely wont be in the CL, has been a joke of a club ever since Ferguson retired and dont have a manager players would join a club for. The way to entice quality players is to offer high wages. Luckely Manchester United has the money to do so.
 

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What does it matter? They’d be shite here anyway
 

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All of these ''free'' signings will have large sign on fees and wages, it's mostly just a way for the player and agent to get more money out of the deal.
Romano has confirmed this, the signing on bonuses essentially replaces the demanded fees from the selling clubs so the players benefit more in this method but the financials involved is high regardless.
 

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Romano has confirmed this, the signing on bonuses essentially replaces the demanded fees from the selling clubs so the players benefit more in this method but the financials involved is high regardless.
It’s still cheaper than actually buying them though. Someone like Mazraoui is not getting a €30m signing bonus.
 

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Mbappe - Only going to Madrid

Kessie - An argument to be made, but it’s questionable if he’s good enough and if he is the type of midfielder we need.

Brozovic - signed a new contract

Modric - Ten years too late. Plus never leaving Madrid.

Romagnoli - Would take.

Dembele - Crazy wages, crazier mentality. Crock.

Rudiger - Would take in a heart beat.

Belotti - No thanks

Perisic - Too old, not good enough anymore.

Onana - Major question marks.

Christensen - Would take

Dybala - Wouldn’t want to be here. Di María mk.2

Tolisso - Not convinced he’s good enough.
 

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I would take ROmagnoli and Mazaroui and Kamara who isnt even on the list would be first choice
 

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I genuinely think it's players not being that attracted to us.

We don't even know who our next manager is so why would a player want to join us for that?
 

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“Hey just so you know, Madrid are also interested, therefore I’m going to require a substantially bigger fee in order for this deal to go ahead.”

“Free agents” is the biggest con in football. It’s where agents earn a bigger cut. I believe most clubs try to avoid signing these players for that simple reason.
 

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It's something we just don't do. I suppose you have to think of your feet and monitor these things. Plus it's usually a player who has some issue witj his club and we probably get frightened of fecking up
 

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“Hey just so you know, Madrid are also interested, therefore I’m going to require a substantially bigger fee in order for this deal to go ahead.”

“Free agents” is the biggest con in football. It’s where agents earn a bigger cut. I believe most clubs try to avoid signing these players for that simple reason.
It is a risk though. What when player picks up injury in his last months of contract? Serious injury. Then his price goes down and it is harder to find a club.
 

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I wouldn't mind if we gave Mbappe 40-50M per year for the next 5 years it would be 250M. Imagine that's 3 Maguires in 5 years. I would take 1 Mbappe all day long.
PSG offered him 100M a year and he still turned them down. That's with him being French and PSG pretty much getting automatic CL qualification every year.

The guy is completely obsessed with Madrid. We could offer him 200M/y 5 year contract and the mad lad will still insist on going to Madrid.
 

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It's not but their wages would obliterate the current Madrid wage structure.
Rudiger apparently looking for 200k+, Pogba probably wants 300k+, Mbappe reportedly signed for a little under 1M/w.

Aside from Mbappe, I don't think they're breaking their wage structure. They're finally getting rid of Bale's salary this summer and I'm sure they're going to try offloading Hazard.
 

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Rudiger apparently looking for 200k+, Pogba probably wants 300k+, Mbappe reportedly signed for a little under 1M/w.

Aside from Mbappe, I don't think they're breaking their wage structure. They're finally getting rid of Bale's salary this summer and I'm sure they're going to try offloading Hazard.
Pogba got offered over £400k a week to stay here, with Raiola as his agent there's no way his next club doesn't at least match that.
 

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How do you know we've not tried to sign these players?
I'm guessing that even if we sent an email enquiry, the dozens of journos who are making their careers out of posting news about united, would've tweeted about it, with police lights.
 

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I’ve said on here lots of times over the past few months that we could realistically sign Mazraoui, Rudiger, Kamara, Kessie, Dembele and Lacazette all on frees and IMPROVE our starting eleven but the problem we have as a club these days is that we’re REACTIVE and not PROACTIVE so probably haven’t even approached any of those players.
I agree with Mazraoui and Kamara, but I don't think we should sign someone just because they're free.

Lacazette has been shit for Arsenal for 5 years. Why would we want him?
Dembele has an attitude problem and an injury problem.
Kessie seems like another Fred.

Rudiger, sounds like a good idea, although - i've read he performs at his best in a back 3 and not a back 2. I don't know how true that is.