Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
    1,534
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An apt description yes
Was it worth keeping him for the odd 5 minute sub appearance here and there? Surely throwing someone like Mejbri would be better for all concerned?
Well we don’t know that, throwing Players who aren’t ready into teams that aren’t performing very very rarely ends well for either party.
 

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What do we think about McClaren?
This whole thing about knowing the club. He was here for little more than two years. Twenty one years ago. What does he know? A shortcut to Old Trafford? The best canteen at Carrington for lunch?
 

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The right appointment I think

In the PL you have pep, klopp, conte and tuchel quite possibly the world's top 4 coaches. No matter who comes in it will be a mammoth task to top all of those. Our best bet therefore was the next big thing and that's probably this guy right, what with naglesman at bayern already.

Hopefully he's special, he'll need to be
 

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might be only 2 in the league but what about all the draws? That's whats killed the lowest possible target for us for this season (top 4)
I had hoped for more tbh, but given our squad I don't think even Pep would have gotten much more out of this season.
We need to clear house, way to many passengers.
 

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The right appointment I think

In the PL you have pep, klopp, conte and tuchel quite possibly the world's top 4 coaches. No matter who comes in it will be a mammoth task to top all of those. Our best bet therefore was the next big thing and that's probably this guy right, what with naglesman at bayern already.

Hopefully he's special, he'll need to be
It’s vital. In two years none of those could even still be in the league so we have a head start in building for that future. I can see Liverpool and City struggle for a bit after losing such enormous managers but it’s no good to us if we are fighting in 5th. Fail to catch up then and it’s another cycle in the wilderness
 

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So..if tuchel becomes available..does he still become the number 1? He is underperforming in the league(after spending so much and wasted 90 on lukaku) and now real Madrid is having them for breakfast. A team that psg made look average last round.
 

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He said something along the lines of Rashford can't be our main centre forward.
And then managed to mess about both he and Martial, and wanting to bring Perisic in for 60m, that was rightly vetoed.
He was right in that regard. He still played him a lot though. Where he was most certainly not right was deciding that the ideal "main centre forward" would be Lukaku :eek:

His rotation of Rashford and Martial on the left was obviously not ideal, but it worked reasonably well in his second season. What really buggered it up was signing Sanchez and playing him on the left as well.

Perisic did do well after United vetoed him, so I'm happy to concede that maybe Jose was right in that instance. What the latter's fanboys are less keen to shout about is all the expensive duds he landed us with. It's hardly surprising the board, in an extraordinary moment of lucidity, began to question his judgement.
 

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It's risky but I've been going on about how disappointed I am at this side's technical quality for years now, especially in keeping possession and dominating games and if this manager can help us move on from the more pragmatic style we've had in Jose, Ole and in some respects Ralf, then i'm all for it.

I would love to see a United side play with energy and one that keeps the ball well and dominates games. Obviously it takes awhile but hopefully we'll finally move on from this underdog mentality in big games too. Really hope Erik is the guy to help us do this.
 

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I was skeptical of Rangnick as a manager when we got him this winter. And unfortunately, I'm also skeptical of Ten Hag at United. I am worried that he has been the manager of Ajax, which is by far the strongest team in the Netherlands and yet they risk losing the championship to a somewhat weaker PSV team. Also, I'm worried about how he treats young players who do not strike immediately. He throws them on the second team where they can rot and look no further in their direction. Also, I'm worried he's coming from perhaps the 6th strongest league in Europe (England, Spain, Germany, France, Italy are probably all stronger than the Dutch).
You were right to be sceptical this winter but that's not a slight against Rangnick. He walked into an impossible task, & has been neatured since day one here.

How about Ten Hag's results in the CL with a team from the '6th strongest league' in Europe? Whilst we've struggled vs every opponent every time we're in it?
 

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Ten Hag will have an enormous, enormous job ahead. I don't trust this club to give him the backing he needs to he honest.
 

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Massive risk which reflects our desperation. Exciting appointment but if he isn't backed and given some time it will end no differently to the last 4.
Read some reports of him saying it will take five years to get us challenging again and quite a few people saying five years in this thread too....five years?

I know challenging next season is unlikely even signing all the right players and moving the right ones on, which wont happen, but five years?

If we made two good signings each season if not including the DeGea just outfield players, we would have a band new eleven in five years. Xavi with little management experience has come into a struggling Barca side that is virtually bankrupt and transformed them in months. Klopp came into a Liverpool side who were doing no better than us where the star players were ageing or wanting to move on and took less than three seasons.

This isnt the mid 80s where Ferguson took over United and took a good five years to get us challenging, no manager in the modern game gets that long at a top club to get them "challenging".

I dont know much about Ten Hag in all honesty, I dont think the right manager is out there at the moment. Hopefully he does really well here but just a gut feeling from all the comments I am reading on him. My initial thought is people seem obsessed with his playing style and coaching and brand of football or "a project" as seems to be the modern phrase, when that doesnt solve our problems, we need a real man manager who is ruthless as well, not sure I sense that from Ten Hag though dont know much about him
 

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So it's done? I kinda think we should have gone for him in 2018 instead of ole but hopefully he makes things right.
 

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My only concern with ETH is how he's going to adapt from having really good technical footballers to having the likes of Maguire, AWB and Fred. I'd love to see us play like his Ajax side but we just don't have the players :(
 

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I know this sounds like fence sitting but oh well...

This could be stroke of genius appointment or complete egg on face moment. I just hope it's been thought about and he gets time even if he fails for top 4 in first year.

We need to start appointing managers with a philosophy, with a clear identity.

I just worry the patience won't be there or he just turns out to be the wrong one.

Ajax and Man Utd are very different beasts
 

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He'll get backed, certainly very well in this first summer window. We spunk money for fun, he'll get plenty to play with. Not worried. Will we spend it well though? That's the bigger question.
 

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I know this sounds like fence sitting but oh well...

This could be stroke of genius appointment or complete egg on face moment. I just hope it's been thought about and he gets time even if he fails for top 4 in first year.

We need to start appointing managers with a philosophy, with a clear identity.

I just worry the patience won't be there or he just turns out to be the wrong one.

Ajax and Man Utd are very different beasts
It doesn't feel like they'll be any inbetween with this one, he'll either be brilliant or a complete walking disaster
 

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He'll get backed, certainly very well in this first summer window. We spunk money for fun, he'll get plenty to play with. Not worried. Will we spend it well though? That's the bigger question.
It's more a question of wise spending, recruitment and overall operational functionality. He's going to work with the same personell save Fletcher who've been part of failed regimes
 

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My only concern with ETH is how he's going to adapt from having really good technical footballers to having the likes of Maguire, AWB and Fred. I'd love to see us play like his Ajax side but we just don't have the players :(
Maguire is pretty much the same as Blind
 

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If the reports are true that he said it will take 5 years for him to make us "challenging" for a title, then how did he ace his managerial interview? Most top manager will take 2-3 season and if they had the same resource as our last manager, it will take 2 season. Unless they said that they will not back ETH and he will have the same budget as spurs, even then 5 years is a bad estimation. We already have a good foundation and it shouldn't take to long for him to have us challenging.
 

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Read some reports of him saying it will take five years to get us challenging again and quite a few people saying five years in this thread too....five years?

I know challenging next season is unlikely even signing all the right players and moving the right ones on, which wont happen, but five years?

If we made two good signings each season if not including the DeGea just outfield players, we would have a band new eleven in five years. Xavi with little management experience has come into a struggling Barca side that is virtually bankrupt and transformed them in months. Klopp came into a Liverpool side who were doing no better than us where the star players were ageing or wanting to move on and took less than three seasons.

This isnt the mid 80s where Ferguson took over United and took a good five years to get us challenging, no manager in the modern game gets that long at a top club to get them "challenging".

I dont know much about Ten Hag in all honesty, I dont think the right manager is out there at the moment. Hopefully he does really well here but just a gut feeling from all the comments I am reading on him. My initial thought is people seem obsessed with his playing style and coaching and brand of football or "a project" as seems to be the modern phrase, when that doesnt solve our problems, we need a real man manager who is ruthless as well, not sure I sense that from Ten Hag though dont know much about him
Rumor has it he is super brutal and doesn't accept poor performances and has a very clear vision on what he demands. Might surprise us if they hold true.
 

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You just don't seem to want this to work though, do you? Constantly looking for the most negative of angle.
That's what you think. I've mentioned this already. The same applies to anyone else taking the helm. I'm ready for Ten Hag if he's indeed the clubs choice but there's a long and tough road ahead with the same people in different roles at the club in the operational hierarchy
 
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My only concern with ETH is how he's going to adapt from having really good technical footballers to having the likes of Maguire, AWB and Fred. I'd love to see us play like his Ajax side but we just don't have the players :(
The real concern is about how he approaches the job. If he comes in like 2003 Mourinho with a high self confidence and conviction in his principles, forces players to buy into his way from day 1, he could be transformative for the club.

If he instead approaches the job like Moyes did in 2013 thinking getting the job in itself is an achievement and an end game, the players are going to walk all over him.

I hope he’s ambitious and determined to succeed one way or another.
 

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If the reports are true that he said it will take 5 years for him to make us "challenging" for a title, then how did he ace his managerial interview? Most top manager will take 2-3 season and if they had the same resource as our last manager, it will take 2 season. Unless they said that they will not back ETH and he will have the same budget as spurs, even then 5 years is a bad estimation. We already have a good foundation and it shouldn't take to long for him to have us challenging.
Nonsense. You can't go from 9 years of rubbish to beating unstoppable teams like City and Liverpool to the title within 2 years. 5 years would be a sensible estimate
 

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I just hope that on his arrival, ETH gets to the task of removing some of the first team squad and the toxicity which has caused the alarming drop in standards. Left at the club they'll only serve to thrown him under the bus.
The blessing in disguise is that half the squad are out of contract or want to leave anyway, he might be the first manager since LVG who's not walking into a squad full of deadwood (ok they'll still be a few but not as many as we've had in the past)
 
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I'm also skeptical of Ten Hag at United. I am worried that he has been the manager of Ajax, which is by far the strongest team in the Netherlands and yet they risk losing the championship to a somewhat weaker PSV team.
He’s 4 points clear after winning 22 of his teams 28 games this season, what an absolutely bizarre thing to nit pick about.
 
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