I'm not talking about seasons at other clubs I mean only here. Matic for instance is a pointless example anyway, he's finished. I'm talking strictly how they have performed here over the years. I seriously struggle to see how Ten Hag would bring any good out of Rashford or Martial, the problem with these type of players is not a managerial issue it's their own horseshit attitude that's the problem and my point of the first post.
Players like Varane, Sancho, Donny, Bruno I can definitely imagine will thrive under him but let's not forget Varanes injury problems. You mentioned Shaw, I can't think of any other word to describe his entire time here as mediocre. He had one really good run before he broke his leg.
I mean, this was the quote you quoted
most of them have had good seasons in the past or they wouldn't be at United, so is it really that hard for you to imagine?
So we were talking about different things. Anyway never mind. I agree a lot of them are a busted flush. Matic, Maguire, AWB and plenty of others I can't see making it but hope I'm wrong.
On Shaw, if he made PL team of the year it means there is something there.
We've fostered an environment where players find it hard to succeed, and often regress. Look at Pogba for example. Did well at Juve and for France, but can never quite put it together here. Sanchez came in and turned to shite. Rashford and Martial were great then turned to shite. Lukaku was quite good at first, turned to shite. AWB looked good for a while, turned to shite. Maguire, enough said!
But the talent is there, they all proved it in the past.
If ETH can change that environment to one where players flourish and improve, then some of these players will go back to doing what they do well.