Not the point. He came with backing in January of whoever he wanted and the remit of survival. He decided to buy a LOT of new players, all of whom flopped and needed to be moved on by the next guy.
He has explained what exactly? That it is not a "pre season friendly" that's not an explanation to me. And don't say it's a toxic time or environment, it's toxic to sit on that bench and watch someone like Pogba and Lingard get minutes while being absolute shit, and how they don't give a damn.
And the long term rebuilding of the club is hampered by failing to qualify for the Champions League. Change can be made while still getting acceptable results on the pitch.
What's the protocol if the guy you bring in to get the ship home safely, instead starts sinking the ship as Rangnick seems to be doing?
Is the point. They were going down regardless. I’m not saying Ole was good enough. He wasn’t. Just that he’s won more Rangnick. Which he has.
They weren't going down regardless. If they hired properly and gave the manager the same backing theres a fair chance they could have stayed up.
Rangnick also got sacked when Stuttgart were in the relegation zone. Saved a relegation from his CV.
He didnt hide from the league and go to somewhere non relevant though. He rebuilt Hoffenheim, Shalke and built RB from upstairs and in the managers seat.
Like blaming your babysitter for your kids behaviour.
Im just not sure what Ralf did in Germany is relevant to our season. Champions League is slipping away and Ralf is the man that was hired to ensure that did not happen.
The thing is i'm just not sure how much choice he had over making these decisions, being an interim and all. Not only that but if players are absolutely adamant on wanting to go what can he do? Lingard would have gone too if Greenwood didn't put us in that situation
Ole was miles better for us, and this is all i care. He also come here in the middle of the season, and have done a better job compare to Rangnick. Yeah Ole is a terrible below average manager, but that just speaks how bad Ralf actually is.
He managed a team in the second division of his home country. After getting them promoted he was sacked as they were on their way down again. Saving another relegation from his CV. He’s done quite well at Hoffenheim and at Shalke at first. When he went back to Shalke he lost as many games as he won. His CV is chequered at best.
Rangnick is not an average manager. His tactics influenced heavily the likes of Nagelsmann, Klopp and Tuchel. However he's a manager whose more comfortable managing a small side and tbh he has no experience managing a top club let alone a club like ours whose in total disarray. To make matters worse gegenpressing requires players with extraordinary work rate and attitude, something, the team built by Ole and Murtough lack heavily in. Its a known thing that Liverpool struggled to adapt to Klopp and yet our geniuses expected a 60 year old something manager to come in during mid season and change the way of our game in a radical way and that these lazy bunch would just go on board with it with a smile on their face.
Not really, he did very well at RB too. He had an established style and I fully agree hes no manager for a top club, but hes brought in for a wider remit than that here.
The answer to your question has been answered 100 times. Im not entertaining it anymore.
I'm starting to think he was hired just to do an audit, hence the reason no one has called him out yet. If he really was full of shit and he didn't have any backing the players agents would have crucified him by now.
Not entirely sure it is possible to educate you on this, you've already decided there's no alternatives, only your own conviction. You have the second most posts in this thread and you'd do well to find one that offers a decent summary of the situation. It's mostly 2-3 lines based on little else than your imagination, often contradicting yourself, pretending it's facts.
It shouldn't all come from the manager, and you'd do well to find a Manchester United player that didn't want to win yesterday, or in general for that matter, but it hardly means certain matches are self motivating enough so that the manager isn't needed. Confidence is shot, we play one of the best teams in Europe, they battered us the last time, we struggle with injuries and are missing key players, we're lined up in a formation we rarely ever play and when we've played like this it's usually been a disaster, yet supposedly since it's Liverpool it's so self motivating that Ralf should've just stayed in the dressing room, or at home for that sake. The margins here aren't that big, performing at 85% vs 90% and so on. Liverpool and City are two of the best teams in the world, yet you rarely see Gurdiola and Klopp sitting down instead of addressing things happening on the pitch to keep the players performing.
Think that has been massively overstated but even if it is true it doesn't mean his tactics are remotely applicable to today's game.
Neither are good enough.
4th has never been good enough for us. And we've failed to qualify for the CL in the past as well (in fact 4 times in 8 years). We'll probably finish 6th this season as well. Failing to qualify is hardly a catastrophe now is it?
With the answer in hand, hiring him as the interim was a mistake then.
He’s the firefighter running into the burning building mate. Emerging with the glistening bald head of ETH
I hear you and that's what will probably happen, we can dream however.
Ole performed better, there's no argument there. I think if Rangnick was permanent and had the remit he needs to exercise control from day 1, we'd see a different scenario. But that's for a parallel universe because it's (Rightly) falling to Ten Hag.
Neither were good enough for interim and neither are good enough for permanent. Ole somehow got both despite being a really, really bad manager.
Yeah, with hindsight even a fan of Rangnick such as myself can't deny this. We should have got a manager who is good for a bounce and let Rangnick rip up the squad after that.
He is also the first ever united manager not to sign a single player. He inherited a complete and utter shit show, bad and all as last night was it's still better than our last game against pool which was actually at home.
I'd say it performances, not results. I'm 100% behind any manager who comes in and gets the players to work their socks off for him, regardless of the results. Performances breed team spirit and resilience, then the results will follow.
And managers have been sacked every time they have failed to qualify.
I’d agree with that. And the performances have been woeful. We genuinely don’t deserve any more points than we have got.
That's all well and good but this is what Rangnick said when he was hired:
If you take him seriously then he has failed at what he said he would do.
