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Scholes loves putting a foot in it
Well, use whatever words you want but even if it pissed me off, I would not share what Lingard told me in front of the world because he won't get any benefit out of it and might damage his mate.I love the image that the term “confiding” as though there was this real heart to heart, not just a casual conversation like “how’s the mood in the dressing room?” “fecking shite to be honest mate, can’t wait for it to be over”
Oh I entirely agree that Scholes is entirely the one in the wrong.Well, use whatever words you want but even if it pissed me off, I would not share what Lingard told me in front of the world because he won't get any benefit out of it and might damage his mate.
In any case, good riddance to Lingard as far as I'm concerned.
Let's be clear about something, they do share their opinions, the people they share it with just have more respect than Scholes showed today. Surely you don't actually believe that players aren't talking to friends and family in private?Right, but somehow, giving his opinion on what the dressing room is damaging.
Let's say any players next year are sharing 'opinions' on what the dressing room to ex-players outside the club is like under ETH, I personally, would be fuming if I was ETH. Especially ex-players who are pundits too.
I do agree in some way, players should be allowed to be giving their opinions on what it's like behind the scenes, don't get my wrong. But to me, anything negative or to create more toxicity should be kept in house, not shared. Maybe I'm old fashioned.
speaks volumesI'm sure he won't mind me saying.
fecks sake Scholsie
The leak is when it goes from th club to the press. Lingard is club. Scholes is press. He could be Lingard’s wife, irt’s still Lingard who’s leaking. If Lingard wanted to minimize the leak, he could have told Scholes ‘this is off the record’ or something, which he pretty clearly didn’t do, but even then it’s really just based on trust that the press person doesn’t bring it further, it’s not legally binding or anything.To be clear the leak would be Scholes not Lingard. The leakage is when an information goes from a private circle to a public circle or is shared to reach the public. Lingard sharing his opinion privately with Scholes isn't leaking anything, the leakage is when Scholes shares that private thought to the public.
And this is why the club needs to back him publicly. Anything they disagree with him about should be dealt with privately. However, in public, give him all the backing. You have to cut that shit narrative off as much as you can. also, Any players caught moaning about the way he trains them, should be out the door.Our former players don’t help at all which I don’t get the rational behind it. It’s like they find joy in United being bad so people can always go back to reminisce how great the old United were back in the day?
Barely do you hear Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham, City former players criticizing their club every chance they get. Even during the new manager search all you heard was how most ex players prefer Poch. It’s going to get worse now since their favorite Poch wasn’t giving the job. Every little mistake by Ten Hag will be blown out of proportion.
This is what I want for us again.I remember David James saying that when he was on England duty he could never get anything out of the United lads in terms of what it was like at United because they were so tight lipped and guarded. The club is unrecognizable from the Fergie years.
I think our sports psychologist is going to need therapy after this season.
This is why I've always rated the player exodus under LvG as the true beginning of our decline.I remember David James saying that when he was on England duty he could never get anything out of the United lads in terms of what it was like at United because they were so tight lipped and guarded. The club is unrecognizable from the Fergie years.
What is happening? The dressing room is a disaster doesn't really mean anything, unless he elaborated on TV.Surely we should be more annoyed it's happening than Lingard saying it?
I don't knowLet's be clear about something, they do share their opinions, the people they share it with just have more respect than Scholes showed today. Surely you don't actually believe that players aren't talking to friends and family in private?
Who told you that he just said that?I don't know
That's why I categorised it as 'information' rather than opinion to be honest. Lingard would have told Scholes a lot more on everything that is going in the dressing room rather than him just telling Scholes 'it's a disaster', it ain't opinion to me personally - it's what's going on.
It obviously means there is a pile of infighting and players aren’t getting along with each other.What is happening? The dressing room is a disaster doesn't really mean anything, unless he elaborated on TV.
Unless he means what McT keeps referring to. I thought his comments would get more discussion than this.
100%Surely we should be more annoyed it's happening than Lingard saying it?
Are you sure that's how an employer would view it?To be clear the leak would be Scholes not Lingard. The leakage is when an information goes from a private circle to a public circle or is shared to reach the public. Lingard sharing his opinion privately with Scholes isn't leaking anything, the leakage is when Scholes shares that private thought to the public.
Take my hat off to anyone finds the cure for J Lingz.100%
Rangnick said the same thing and the Caf rejoiced at his honesty.
Unfortunately for Lingard, his reputation precedes him. He could find the cure for cancer and half of this forum would still have a go at him for failing to do the same for AIDS.
That's the worst Spanish I ever heard!So the El Rata Alada is Lingard... What a surprise.
Yes, he hasn't shared anything that belongs to United.Are you sure that's how an employer would view it?
I've had confidentiality clauses at work that have said differently.
Essentially I could choose to break them, and tell family about various things, but if it got out the buck would have stopped with me if discovered.
It being OK to discuss things with family and friends, and them leaking it would seem quite a big loophole. I'm not sure if Scholes is in some way employed by the club and bound by any duty of confidentiality?
Of course you may have expertise in this area.
That's the worst Spanish I ever heard!
Pogba's left his sport's bra hanging from the door frame again?What does a dressing room being a disaster mean? Is it unclean and unkept?
I've noticed a trend in your posts where you are always more interested being contrary and protecting a player from criticism than engaging in any discussion relating to the topic100%
Rangnick said the same thing and the Caf rejoiced at his honesty.
Unfortunately for Lingard, his reputation precedes him. He could find the cure for cancer and half of this forum would still have a go at him for failing to do the same for AIDS.
Losing and being humiliated like this week in and out like this tend to exacerbates the friction between the cliques. Glad that this is finally being admitted to by a player openly. Let’s get that clear out going!Our players seem to hate each other which is a big problem.
I've never noticed your posts.I've noticed a trend in your posts where you are always more interested being contrary and protecting a player from criticism than engaging in any discussion relating to the topic