[Jippy]

Because there's been plenty to celebrate?

We also have people like you who think they sit on the Supreme Court of the Top Reds and somehow want everyone to take an eyes wide-shut approach to our state as a football club. And then go on here and start dishing out sermons about the fans being at fault for the current shit show.

Of course there's been little to celebrate and I'm painfully aware of the club's failings from the top down through recruitment and performances.
I just can't see the point of working yourself into a spittle-flecked rage about Ole after every defeat, six months on from his departure. Nor do I have the energy to spend hours slating Maguire when he didn't even play today.
The negativity gets boring and draining. You'd think the pending ETH reset might've lifted the mood more, especially with this season having long been a write off.
i do genuinely think a significant minority of fans get off on the negativity and its divisiveness - evidenced by someone digging out loads of super negative posts from the '08 season.

 

[Dribbles]

United dont have any men in their team. They are all little boys that get bullied off the park. They moan and complain when things arent going their way. Get petulant and frustrated because they are entitled. I honestly would drop the lot of them for the last few games. Let the actual kids play.

 

[OrcaFat]

Man said keep Maguire and Shaw

I would definitely keep those two. Both can be coached back to form. Both will thrive once there is a decent CM.

 

[croadyman]

I would definitely keep those two. Both can be coached back to form. Both will thrive once there is a decent CM.

Still not convinced about that

 

[sirAlexsglasses]

We were playing quite well until the missed penalty, I do believe that had Bruno put the penalty away then we would have won. There was urgency and some pride until then, but as soon as it was missed……we fell apart as we have done all season. I have to ask why this effort was not applied before, and we definitely should have had a penalty for the Elanga tackle if theirs was anything to go by. They were there for the taking and we blew it……again, we did not deserve to be in the champions league. And some of these players need to take a longboard look at themselves, CR7 must have been hurting like you wouldn’t believe inside, but he turned up and put a shift in, he genuinely loves the club and it’s fans, unlike the mercenaries that we currently employ………good riddance I say.

 

[OrcaFat]

Still not convinced about that

Yeah I could be very wrong.

 

[choccy77]

He has no sense of irony has he???

Yup... I mean nope

 

[redmanx]

This.
Getting relegated in 1974 enabled Tommy Docherty to carry out a rebuild of fielding hungry young players, to replace an aging team who got relegated. They were able to develop in Division 2, without the immediate pressure of fighting to stay in Division 1. That breathing space enabled the team to win Division 2 easily, then finish 3rd in Division 1 and reach the FA Cup Final, in their first season back.

Thats exactly what we need next season, breathing space.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

I didn't even watch the match today, such is the disconnection I feel from the club at the moment. I said on the match thread a few days ago that these players wouldn't get anything at The Emirates because they don't care. If they don't even care when earning millions, why should we? The whole club is rotten from the top down. God help Ten Hag in trying to sort it all out.

 

[2 man midfield]

Just to put into perspective how much these guys have downed tools, In two seasons they have gone from going unbeaten away from home to having the worse utd away record on 40 odd years.... if that is not a sign that the dressing room is rotten..... What is??

It’s a sign that they’re conning the fans and the management. They’re perfectly capable of putting the effort in and playing to a good level - when they feel like it.

 

[Trophy Room]

Decent until the penalty miss. Lack of confidence and belief following the miss. This season is a write off.

 

[USREDEVIL]

Another loss. It’s becoming habitual isn’t it?

 

[DavelinaJolie]

Missed the game as I was visiting my grandmother. Just watching MOTD, some absolutely horrific decisions.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Think we were by far the better team which shows just how poor Arsenal are. Context matters next season but if arsenal and Spurs remain this poor, Ten Hag should walk top four. It’s shocking quality.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Just want to add I absolutely can’t stand Arsenal and their fans. Worst in world football for me. More delusional than Liverpool fans and with very little class, a truly horrible club.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

How the feck did Bruno not see red for that?

 

[elnorte]

This.
Getting relegated in 1974 enabled Tommy Docherty to carry out a rebuild of fielding hungry young players, to replace an aging team who got relegated. They were able to develop in Division 2, without the immediate pressure of fighting to stay in Division 1. That breathing space enabled the team to win Division 2 easily, then finish 3rd in Division 1 and reach the FA Cup Final, in their first season back.

Let's hope Eric stays clear of the doctor's wife.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Can't stand Spurs fans either to be honest

 

[George The Best]

Missed the game as I was visiting my grandmother. Just watching MOTD, some absolutely horrific decisions.

Most of the players did too. They’re home and tucked up in bed now - bless

 

[DavelinaJolie]

How the feck did Bruno not see red for that?

No idea. Gross tackle, since he got a yellow they can't do anything retrospectively can they?

 

[VidaRed]

Most of the players did too. They’re home and tucked up in bed now - bless

I bet lingard and rashford are playing on the xbox.

 

[wolvored]

I would definitely keep those two. Both can be coached back to form. Both will thrive once there is a decent CM.

Who is going to make maguire fast enough to play the high line TH plays?

 

[Gopher Brown]

Having watched the highlights again, we weren’t a complete disaster like we were against Liverpool, we attacked well, missed a penalty, hit the bar and the post. The result is a disaster however, and that’s the thing that matters.

Referee and VAR were awful, and our fullbacks in particular were terrible, but I am reasonably optimistic we will get a draw against Chelsea is we play like that.

 

[Orange Tree]

Still annoyed by yesterday's officiating.

Yeah, yeah, we are rubbish, but so are Arsenal and Tottenham. Had we won the game, we would again be in the mix.

Hopefully we can clear the house easier without the added pressure of european competition for next season.

 

[Infra-red]

I don't know why everyone is so keen to avoid the Europa Conference League - we finally have a European competition that is at our level.

 

[AndyMUFC]

To be honest if we'd have played like we did yesterday in more games this season we'd have been in a much better place, but yeah we still ended up losing 3-1 to an average Arsenal side because we were crap in both boxes.

 

[lex talionis]

The performance was better, but the loss of conviction is there for all to see.

 

[NewGlory]

Take away Ronaldo, i can't stand any of them, borderline hate every single one of them charlatans.

I agree, except De Gea has also been perfect all season. And yet some have the nerve to blame Ronaldo for this disaster.

Only De Gea and Ronaldo can claim they gave their best this season. I hate to say it, but even Bruno, the hero of Ole'a time here, has been mostly shit this season

 

[OrcaFat]

Who is going to make maguire fast enough to play the high line TH plays?

He’s probably as quick as Tony Adams ever was. But hey, let’s see how it pans out.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

I watched this on Sunday. We should have won that, and with a little luck going our way (Dalot scoring instead of hitting the frame , Bruno scores his penalty, Ronaldo deemed onside) we would be looking at a deserved win. We weren’t that bad. Small margins went against us. We looked better without Maguire and with McTominay.

 

[Sandikan]

I was at the game, and at that end, but it was only when I saw the replay of that first goal I realised how shocking the defending was.

Both centre backs either missed their kick or got tiny contact on it, and then the full back nowhere near their man tapping in.
Horrible.

 

[Sea-Cow]

I still don't understand how Nuno Taveras wasn't sent off for grabbing Elanga's shoulders in the first half. Isn't that a penalty and a red for stopping a clear goal-scoring opportunity? Am I wrong that if that happens anywhere else on the pitch and a defender grabs the attackers shoulders as he is sprinting away, isn't it a clear yellow that everyone accepts? You grabbed them to stop a counter? Everyone nods and accepts its a yellow.

But he grabs his shoulders in the box and clearly throws him off? Nothing? Can someone explain it?

 

[Sea-Cow]

I would definitely keep those two. Both can be coached back to form. Both will thrive once there is a decent CM.

I would happily ship them off of play them in the reserves if money was no option. But due to the high cost paid for them, and continuing to be paid, which logically must have an impact on the funds available for new players, I think we have no choice but to keep them and hope they pull their fingers out.

I think its psychological as much as anything. Get them feeling warm and fuzzy and applying themselves to the best of their ability and we will see massive improvement. They probably will never be the world class, Vidic and Evra-reboots that we would love to see, but they can be so much better. Good luck to ETH.

 

[cesc's_mullet]

I look at the teams both sides used to put out during the peak of the rivalry and it makes me depressed for all of us.

We had the pleasure of watching players like - Henry, RVN, Bergkamp, Scholes, Vieira, Keane, Pires, Giggs, Campbell, Rio, Cole, Gilberto, Neville x2, Ljungberg, Seaman, Mad Jens, Stam, Keown, Kolo Toure, Lauren, Vidic, Evra, RVP, Rooney, Ronaldo, Fabgregas, etc, etc.

And now days we get to watch the likes of - Tavares, Soares, Telles, AWB, Dalot, Lingaard, Maguire, Lindelof, Nketiah, midfield parterships of El-farqing-Neny and Xhaka up against Fred, McTominay and the corpses of Matic and Mata.

It's laughable how far off these sides are to our peak era sides.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I still don't understand how Nuno Taveras wasn't sent off for grabbing Elanga's shoulders in the first half. Isn't that a penalty and a red for stopping a clear goal-scoring opportunity? Am I wrong that if that happens anywhere else on the pitch and a defender grabs the attackers shoulders as he is sprinting away, isn't it a clear yellow that everyone accepts? You grabbed them to stop a counter? Everyone nods and accepts its a yellow.

But he grabs his shoulders in the box and clearly throws him off? Nothing? Can someone explain it?

The best bit is explaining how they came to that decision after reviewing video replays.

 

[OrcaFat]

Having watched the highlights again, we weren’t a complete disaster like we were against Liverpool, we attacked well, missed a penalty, hit the bar and the post. The result is a disaster however, and that’s the thing that matters.

Referee and VAR were awful, and our fullbacks in particular were terrible, but I am reasonably optimistic we will get a draw against Chelsea is we play like that.

No we weren’t as much of a disaster as against Liv but I think that’s mostly because Liv are miles better than Arse.

 

[Sea-Cow]

The best bit is explaining how they came to that decision after reviewing video replays.

I know, its infuriating. Same thing with the handball.

Are the refs this bad in other leagues?

 

[mitchmouse]

I watched this on Sunday. We should have won that, and with a little luck going our way (Dalot scoring instead of hitting the frame , Bruno scores his penalty, Ronaldo deemed onside) we would be looking at a deserved win. We weren’t that bad. Small margins went against us. We looked better without Maguire and with McTominay.

Agree with lots of this

 

[redmanx]

United dont have any men in their team. They are all little boys that get bullied off the park. They moan and complain when things arent going their way. Get petulant and frustrated because they are entitled. I honestly would drop the lot of them for the last few games. Let the actual kids play.

I agree, we have nothing to lose now, put the kids in and maybe we'll see some effort, some desire, some comittment and some wins!

 

[Rolaholic]

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