[LawmanMan]

So it's Fergie's fault?

Obviously (in part). He covered for the Glazers for years.

He thought Moyes could gradually overhaul things but certain senior pros made his spell a living hell. We backed them despite the fact they were at the end of their time anyway.

It was a mess all round. Had Gill stayed it would have been very different. Woodward is the biggest problem, but at least he is going now.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

This one must really hurt for you in particular. You lost because you scored 1, we scored 3.

I didn't see the game, as I was at a golf comp, but it sounds like we put in a very bad performance, but still won. Things went our way. Long may it continue.

Congrats on understanding the football scoring system from your golf course.

Now watch the match. That way you’ll be able to discuss what actually happened.

 

[tenpoless]

Scholes hates Rangnick with a passion for some reason. He's been sticking the knife in about him from the beginning.

It is why I hope the club will not pay too much attentions to pundits, doesnt matter how big of a legend they are. Lets be honest they are employed by another corp and are not officially part of United anymore, it should end there really.

The club signed Ralf for consultancy role and ETH as manager whom he also recommended. Ralf has also started a clearing out process by blaming players and I doubt he did it without an instruction to do so. We have decided a plan, time to stick with it and ignore the noise. No doubt in my mind next season we will have Neville, Scholes and co. criticizing ETH or Ralf.

 

[Esquire]

Moyes finished 7th with the reigning champions. This team would have to finish outside the top 10 for it to be worse.

This is a debate resembling, what is worse, having your arm or leg cut off. It’s horrid either way.

 

[LawmanMan]

Scholes hates Rangnick with a passion for some reason. He's been sticking the knife in about him from the beginning.

Because he is a corporate yes man just feathering his nest.

He will turn the club into a soulless identikit European side in terms of structure. A lot of people will be happy as long as we win a few pots though.

Football used to be about remarkable men like Sir Matt, Fergie and Shankly. Now it is evolving into technocracy.

 

[Denis79]

Replacing our social media stars with young hungry unknowns won't be profitable though

Yeah... Disney Land. I forgot.

 

[Majima]

Because he is a corporate yes man just feathering his nest.

He will turn the club into a soulless identikit European side in terms of structure. A lot of people will be happy as long as we win a few pots though.

What?

 

[croadyman]

Sabotage. Finish eighth. Total rebuild under Ten Hag.

Would much prefer 8th than Europa

 

[BurgerVan]

Congrats on understanding the football scoring system from your golf course.

Now watch the match. That way you’ll be able to discuss what actually happened.

Straight facts, 3 goals vs 1. I hope you find something nice about the rest of your weekend, as this must be the fixture you hate to lose.

 

[Moriarty]

Woodward is the biggest problem, but at least he is going now.

I thought he had some sort of consultancy role with the club too.

 

[LawmanMan]

I thought he had some sort of consultancy role with the club too.

Hopefully about sponsorships!

 

[Denis79]

Would much prefer 8th than Europa

You'll get your wish most likely. I think West Ham will finish above us.

 

[sancho1983]

Not sure what it says about the strength of the league when us and arsenal have been in the hunt for top 4. Our players having chucked it. Roll on next season

 

[croadyman]

Best we have played in a while.
That doesn't say much but 3-1 is so undeserved.

Top 4 officially gone, feel sick

Yeah and we fully deserve it gone, thrown away stupid points at crucial times

 

[croadyman]

Moyes finished 7th with the reigning champions. This team would have to finish outside the top 10 for it to be worse.

Totally disagree

 

[Majima]

It is why I hope the club will not pay too much attentions to pundits, doesnt matter how big of a legend they are. Lets be honest they are employed by another corp and are not officially part of United anymore, it should end there really.

The club signed Ralf for consultancy role and ETH as manager whom he also recommended. Ralf has also started a clearing out process by blaming players and I doubt he did it without an instruction to do so. We have decided a plan, time to stick with it and ignore the noise. No doubt in my mind next season we will have Neville, Scholes and co. criticizing ETH or Ralf.

Yeah with us not going for Poch, hopefully that's the start of us moving away from them. For sure they cause never ending toxicity around the club with their weekly public opinions.

It definitely does seem that way unfortunately.

 

[Smithy89]

We are only 11 points ahead of Newcastle

 

[Marcus]

Do you have a way of doing that?

It comes as a package from my ISP in Singapore.

 

[Withnail]

This is a debate resembling, what is worse, having your arm or leg cut off. It’s horrid either way.

Well yeah. That's why I threw in the Fergie comment in the end, I realised I didn't have much interest in discussing it.

 

[Ole'sattheWheel]

If it was the other way around there'd be a huge media storm that we were lucky VAR merchants scraping by. Thought we played pretty well. Showed some fight at least.
Could've gone either way tbh but shit result

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Straight facts, 3 goals vs 1. I hope you find something nice about the rest of your weekend, as this must be the fixture you hate to lose.

I’ll get over this a lot quicker than I usually would, that’s for sure. Keeps Arteta in his job and our season was screwed regardless. Once my irritation at the shitty officiating wears off (probably overnight) I’ll be absolutely fine. Thanks for your concern.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

It comes as a package from my ISP in Singapore.

Right. Cool.

 

[Real Name]

Because he is a corporate yes man just feathering his nest.

He will turn the club into a soulless identikit European side in terms of structure. A lot of people will be happy as long as we win a few pots though.

Football used to be about remarkable men like Sir Matt, Fergie and Shankly. Now it is evolving into technocracy.

What the hell?

 

[Moriarty]

Hopefully about sponsorships!

New areas to explore for him. Durable medical goods for example. We need some of those.

 

[Pscholes18]

Bruno is an absolute fecking clown. What was that???

 

[Godfather]

Our fb and midfield situation is laughably bad. Adding to that we only have one half decent winger and no striker in the summer.

 

[Deanor44]

Just to put into perspective how much these guys have downed tools, In two seasons they have gone from going unbeaten away from home to having the worse utd away record on 40 odd years.... if that is not a sign that the dressing room is rotten..... What is??

 

[The Brown Bull]

Meaningless? We have a lot of joyless feckers among our fanbase who deserve the current shite.

Missing the point. By a mile.

 

[arthurka]

This have was weird, we are well and truly cursed. This ref and VAR would fit right in at this club.

 

[Rightnr]

Meaningless? We have a lot of joyless feckers among our fanbase who deserve the current shite.

Because there's been plenty to celebrate?

We also have people like you who think they sit on the Supreme Court of the Top Reds and somehow want everyone to take an eyes wide-shut approach to our state as a football club. And then go on here and start dishing out sermons about the fans being at fault for the current shit show.

 

[TheReligion]

Should have won today.

We may be a mile off Liverpool and City but even without a proper manager, coaching staff and changing personnel on and off the pitch we are still on the same level as Arsenal and Spurs. Both of whom are further along their transition than ourselves.

Catching Chelsea should be target next season and don’t think we’ll have much of an issue with top four.

 

[Fitchett]

We played some decent stuff today. Ronaldo was excellent, and both Elanga and Sancho put a good shift in. But, we were undone by some hopeless defending from our full backs, Fernandes' wastefulness as usual, and corrupt officiating again from Pawson and whoever was VAR.

It was a big improvement on the spineless showing at Anfield in midweek, but that's definitely the end of any faint top four hopes.

 

[Moriarty]

Catching Chelsea should be target next season and don’t think we’ll have much of an issue with top four.

Next season is the great unknown. A good number of the current squad will be gone and we don't know who ETH will retain, but RR will likely have his recommendations. It depends on how much money ETH is given to spend and if his targets are available and/or want to come. Personally, I'd love to see the Ajax system implemented here, or rather a return to the days when our academy turned out quality, first-team ready players. All that will take time and maybe, with a huge slice of luck and good management, we'll see an immediate improvement. On the other hand, it may be a painfully slow rebuild. There's much to do, not only with the players, but with the club infrastructure. It's a daunting prospect.

 

[Crackers]

This one must really hurt for you in particular. You lost because you scored 1, we scored 3.

I didn't see the game, as I was at a golf comp, but it sounds like we put in a very bad performance, but still won. Things went our way. Long may it continue.

Please keep the nothing posts to a minimum. It adds nothing to the conversation. We're well aware of the score, and you're just wumming.

 

[Josep Dowling]

Because he is a corporate yes man just feathering his nest.

He will turn the club into a soulless identikit European side in terms of structure. A lot of people will be happy as long as we win a few pots though.

Football used to be about remarkable men like Sir Matt, Fergie and Shankly. Now it is evolving into technocracy.

Football is all about winning. The only reason we still talk about past managers like that is because they won trophies. It’s clear the club has needed re-structuring for years but now you’re criticising the club for following a model which has worked for our bitter rivals?

 

[Moriarty]

Football is all about winning. The only reason we still talk about past managers like that is because they won trophies. It’s clear the club has needed re-structuring for years but now you’re criticising the club for following a model which has worked for our bitter rivals?

We talk about men like that because they were extraordinary men. They were visionaries who developed a philosophy about how the game should be played and then put it in into practice. Yes, they won trophies but those three giants of the game are remembered for far more than that.

 

[redmanx]

To be honest, Im glad in a way that we wont finish in the top 4 or have to worry about European competition next season. The problems we have are so deep and imbedded ETH doesnt need the distraction of Champions League football where we might flatter to decieve in the group stage. We should concentrate on top 4 finish in the Prem and a good long run in the cups, we shouldnt run before we can walk.

 

[TheReligion]

This one must really hurt for you in particular. You lost because you scored 1, we scored 3.

I didn't see the game, as I was at a golf comp, but it sounds like we put in a very bad performance, but still won. Things went our way. Long may it continue.

The worrying thing for you must be three years in to the Arteta era you still don’t look much good..

 

[DevilRed]

Would much prefer 8th than Europa

Essential we finish 8th so we don't have to travel to fecking armenia or someshite on thursday night.

 

[Fitchett]

To be honest, Im glad in a way that we wont finish in the top 4 or have to worry about European competition next season. The problems we have are so deep and imbedded ETH doesnt need the distraction of Champions League football where we might flatter to decieve in the group stage. We should concentrate on top 4 finish in the Prem and a good long run in the cups, we shouldnt run before we can walk.

This.
Getting relegated in 1974 enabled Tommy Docherty to carry out a rebuild of fielding hungry young players, to replace an aging team who got relegated. They were able to develop in Division 2, without the immediate pressure of fighting to stay in Division 1. That breathing space enabled the team to win Division 2 easily, then finish 3rd in Division 1 and reach the FA Cup Final, in their first season back.