Darwin Núñez / signs for Liverpool

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His poor first touch is still a poor first touch no? Haller actually has good fundamentals like a very good touch. So the comparison is slightly off. Also on Bruno yes I think he’ll be better out wide But he’s not really a playmaker to say Eriksen would be playing out wide for us. Bruno is a striker (Rangnick terms) which is why I said it wouldn’t work.
The point is Haller is not technically gifted. So why did ETH still want to sign Nunez after he saw Nunez played against his Ajax in two legs then? Also again, it's called coaching. For example, before moving to Ajax, there was doubt about Ziyech's work rate that he can fit in to ETH system. Coaching is important here. If ETH wants Nunez then he believes that he can coach Bruno and Nunez to play in the same team.
 

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The point is Haller is not technically gifted. So why did ETH still want to sign Nunez after he saw Nunez played against his Ajax in two legs then? Also again, it's called coaching. For example, before moving to Ajax, there was doubt about Ziyech's work rate that he can fit in to ETH system. Coaching is important here. If ETH wants Nunez then he believes that he can coach Bruno and Nunez to play in the same team.
Like most good managers, I doubt he has any long term use for Bruno.

As for Nunez I just wanted to know why you compared technique when Haller is clear. But why ETH likes him? Probably the same reason I like him. He’s basically a young Cavani. Who wouldn’t want to try and work with that.
 

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Like most good managers, I doubt he has any long term use for Bruno.

As for Nunez I just wanted to know why you compared technique when Haller is clear. But why ETH likes him? Probably the same reason I like him. He’s basically a young Cavani. Who wouldn’t want to try and work with that.
So you are telling me player like Haller who is not technically gifted can be coached but Bruno who has work ethic on the pitch and technically gifted can‘t be coached to play with Nunez? :rolleyes:
 

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I think Núñez chasing down all the failed balls Bruno puts through will make so much space and time for the players behind him to get into position and press hard in the next phase. I can see it being a really big hit, especially if he gets confident in the finishing department in the PL. 80 million is nuts though.
 

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I think Núñez chasing down all the failed balls Bruno puts through will make so much space and time for the players behind him to get into position and press hard in the next phase. I can see it being a really big hit, especially if he gets confident in the finishing department in the PL. 80 million is nuts though.
80m euros is £67m currently and i’d imagine some of that will be add ons.

the going rate for a striker really.
 

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If only he made more passes and scored less goals :(
 

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So you are telling me player like Haller who is not technically gifted can be coached but Bruno who has work ethic on the pitch and technically gifted can‘t be coached to play with Nunez? :rolleyes:
I‘m not being funny. But Haller is bang average. Coached how? He just didn’t work out at West Ham. It happens. It’s a hard team to do well in especially when you take into account the circumstances. Look how the team has developed. Grit and aggression.
 

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Thw description I've heard of him reminds me of Lukaku.
 

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People want work horses instead of ballers for strikers? Is this the new "ball playing CB"?
 

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Could he be tidier? sure. But his base technique in terms of ball control/first touch is definitely not poor IMO. He looks more comfortable on the ball than Cavani and he's made a decent go of the league.
Not so sure about that.

One of the Arsenal podcasts did a scouting video on him with footage from scouting firm Wyscout, showing an entire video of his hold up play and its basically just clip after clip after clip after clip of shitty touches and lost balls when dropping deep and operating in congested parts of the pitch.

He has a lot of other very nice attributes and maybe can improve this part of his game but I think its crazy for any possession based side not to be a bit concerned.
 

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Stats are always needed within context though.

As a striker, are his passes as the last man running with the ball playing risky balls into the box? or are they him dropping deep and laying it off 5 yards and messing them up.

From his playstyle he doesn't look to drop deep and lay it off like some to stat pad. He's often working the channels and cutting the ball back, or contesting a high ball and knocking it down to a team mate.

Could he be tidier? sure. But his base technique in terms of ball control/first touch is definitely not poor IMO. He looks more comfortable on the ball than Cavani and he's made a decent go of the league.
I would say Cavani is better on and with the ball and it’s not even particularly close. Cavani got a bad rep for this year but he’s a very good footballer.
 

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I don't mind a workhorse if he's technically good, Rooney was both for most of his career.
 

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I would say Cavani is better on and with the ball and it’s not even particularly close. Cavani got a bad rep for this year but he’s a very good footballer.
I don't think i agree with that, Cavani has never been that good in possession. His qualities lie elsewhere although he is a great striker, one of the very best of his time.
 

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I don't think i agree with that, Cavani has never been that good in possession. His qualities lie elsewhere although he is a great striker, one of the very best of his time.
He’s a lot more creative than he’s given credit for. He does well when he comes deep and he is also usually found pressing with genuine grit and determination, not just going through the motions. As I said got a bad rep here this season but he’s been a classy player

 

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Not so sure about that.

One of the Arsenal podcasts did a scouting video on him with footage from scouting firm Wyscout, showing an entire video of his hold up play and its basically just clip after clip after clip after clip of shitty touches and lost balls when dropping deep and operating in congested parts of the pitch.

He has a lot of other very nice attributes and maybe can improve this part of his game but I think its crazy for any possession based side not to be a bit concerned.
I would like to see that if you can find the link
 

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Good in air, good shot but that first touch and ball control are little shitty, isn't it?
 

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Crazy price. I dont think we can realistically rebuild this team buying players at those rates. We'll forever be 3-4 players behind where we need to be.
 

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I‘m not being funny. But Haller is bang average. Coached how? He just didn’t work out at West Ham. It happens. It’s a hard team to do well in especially when you take into account the circumstances. Look how the team has developed. Grit and aggression.
This is true.
 

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He’s a lot more creative than he’s given credit for. He does well when he comes deep and he is also usually found pressing with genuine grit and determination, not just going through the motions. As I said got a bad rep here this season but he’s been a classy player

I agree with everything you say here. I just don't think he is any better than Nunez on the ball.
 

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He looks more comfortable on the ball than Cavani
Only the likes of Messi, Neymar and Benzema are more comfortable on the ball than Cavani, I haven't watched him much aside from some compilation clips, and he doesn't look like to be good on the ball as Cavani used to be in his pomp
 

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Only the likes of Messi, Neymar and Benzema are more comfortable on the ball than Cavani, I haven't watched him much aside from some compilation clips, and he doesn't look like to be good on the ball as Cavani used to be in his pomp
Thats such bullshit :lol:
I'm talking about at United.

Sometimes he looks like he's tripping over his own feet and balloons passes all over the place.

I'm quite confident Nunez won't be anywhere near as bad as him at times.
 

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I‘m not being funny. But Haller is bang average. Coached how? He just didn’t work out at West Ham. It happens. It’s a hard team to do well in especially when you take into account the circumstances. Look how the team has developed. Grit and aggression.
So ‘’bang average’’ like Haller can be coached to play in the system but according to you Bruno and Nunez can’t be coached to play together in the system? Very strange.
 

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So ‘’bang average’’ like Haller can be coached to play in the system but according to you Bruno and Nunez can’t be coached to play together in the system? Very strange.
If you think what works for Ajax, player wise is transferable to Manchester United that’s on you.
 

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If you think what works for Ajax, player wise is transferable to Manchester United that’s on you.
We shouldn’t be hiring ETH if at this point we are already thinking his coaching skill isn’t transferable to Manchester United.
 

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A bit of Kane about him
Surely a joke?

He's obviously a potent goalscorer, although even then that's only been this season, and in the Portuguese league.

But even his highlights betray a slight clumsiness and average technique. The ball is never fully under his spell. Genuinely worry that premier league defenders, much sharper and faster than the ones he's used to, will be forever intercepting and disrupting his game.

I'm not saying he's a bad player - he's obviously a promising striker and even considering his limitations I could see him scoring a decent amount of goals here. And he would physically be up to it anyway as he's quite fast, strong and has intensity to him. But he's not going to be winning Ballon d'Ors that's for sure.
 

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We shouldn’t be hiring ETH if at this point we are already thinking his coaching skill isn’t transferable to Manchester United.
Obviously for it to be transferable he’ll need the best tools available. Hence why Ralf has been so stuck on good structure, especially in regards to recruitment.

That doesn’t mean here go make it work with everything we currently have. That’s not how Klopp or Pep got things done.

My opinion Bruno does not fit as a focal point for this to work similar to Yaya not fitting for Pep. But these are just my opinions.
 
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