I thought the standard ones were 100mcg but even at my worst I only ever needed two. Four or more would be quite an experience.
63% of Liverpool squad "asthmatic" - any substance to this article?
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In before Robertson covers 18k tonight. The most sus of all of their players, his eyeballs are almost twitching.
100mcg is the standard dose for kids and younger youth on Airomir with 4-800mcg max daily.
Terbutalin, the competing brand use is also instant doping ban as they never bothered to apply with anti doping agencies for certification, but for salbutamol they did. So when having promising youth athletes as patients it's good to not pick that one.
As an asthmatic you can probably use some steroids and some long acting adrenaline too like Formotorol and still be within regulation. It's popular in cycling.
Completely unrelated but I was lifting at a competition at the weekend and we had the discussion of using my inhaler as their was no UKAD present, and I don't have a TUE. I don't take more than the allowed amount but it could have prompted a test if they'd seen me, which would have been a pain.
Oh I know, I've done the UKAD advisor course.
3 puffs within 8 hours is allowed of Salbutamol without TUE for weightlifting if I interpreted that right, but not sure I did. Also same in FIFA football.
6 puffs I think? 2 puffs per dose. Each puff is 100 and limit is 600 per 8 hours.
Do you notice any differences?
Not for weightlifting, no, but yes for conditioning. Problem is I take it when training for the conditioning so also take it at competition just in case something is different that I don't notice!
Yeah, probably best to not change anything for competition. Sensible.
Both pool fullbacks just sprinted the length of the pitch in the 85th minute
Liverpool players can be asthmatic, be chain smokers and remove their lungs and still work harder than our players.
They’ve done it 85 times each
I think it’s that they probably do fitness training.
Or are able to conserve energy due to the fact they had +70% possession. (And barely had to track back)
Can you link to a study that shows this? From what I read on the websites of anti doping Norway, it has not been shown that approved dosages of Salbutamol improves performance. Only dosages above the approved amount has been shown to do so according to them.
Nothing changes my opinion about this Liverpool team especially watching Robertson and company with their wide-open eye gazes.
Maybe we'll know in a few years time who knows.
Maybe we'll know in a few years time who knows.
I know that when I was a drug officer for the RFU , we were told that the substance in inhalers helped mask other drugs, as well as helping you intake more oxygen. One squad of twenty two players had 14 asthma sufferers !
Are we saying that Utd made Liverpool players run a lot yesterday? Because frankly that would be the most outrageous thing I've read in such an outrageous thread.
Did it? Source? (not allowed to use an Evertonian or clickbait website)
Maybe in a few years time folk on football forums won't use invented, groundless excuses for a rival being good at football. Maybe these folks will concede that a rival is good at football because they have better players and a better coach? Maybe, eh?
I think a lot of you have forgotten what a half functional side looks like.Maybe everyone is at it but United decided not to because our band of idiots would plaster it over social media within 10 minutes of getting their inhalers. "Asthma party at JLingz hiz-ouse, YOLO!!!"
Why 'cause you don't believe that these things happen/happened in world football?
15 players, in the PL, tested positive to banned substances between 2015 and 2020.
At the same time 88 players from England Wales and Scotland tested positive too.
So people still don't believe that these things happen ?
For 26 years we were the dominant team in England and I think of all the agony that Liverpool supporters went through all that time.
Our time will come back again - we're patient.
What banned substances? The ones that make you win trophies? Which ones are those?
Any suggestion these 15 positive tests are Liverpool players?
Exactly.
Plus the only player who moved like a Liverpool player last night was Hannibal (And he is being rightly praised for it) in his short cameo.
I think it's less to do with their inhalers and more to do with the fact the players at United don't give a shit. (Which is why Hannibal stood out like a sore thumb last night)
Desire, Pride, Workrate and Determination are at such a low point in this United squad that another team showing any seems alien to some fans.
Most likely from top clubs in European football, I doubt they would give two hoots about banning someone like Forshaw from leeds. The fact they're letting it slide means there's some sort of benefit.
Fred's probably on there, he's been caught doping in the past, I believe.
Was interesting to see how lethargic Chelsea players were Tonight in comparison with the Liverpool players last night,
Some of the Chelsea players looked heavy legged by half time, Liverpool were still chasing everything at 90 minutes.
Not saying it's doping, but adrenaline and nervous energy only gets you so far!
Some of the Chelsea players looked heavy legged by half time, Liverpool were still chasing everything at 90 minutes.
Not saying it's doping, but adrenaline and nervous energy only gets you so far!
Chelsea did 120 vs Real Madrid at the Bernabéu and then the Cup semi and then the game tonight with very little rotation.
Liverpool rested the majority of their 1st team vs Benfica before the City semi, I think that's the biggest difference.
Mount 290 minutes vs 200 Thiago
Alonso 290 minutes vs 180 Robertson
James 300 minutes vs 180 TAA
Werner 260 minutes vs 200 Mane
etc etc
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Liverpool have been working with Mark Warnecke, who has created two mineral drinks, one orange and one citron, to 'significantly speed up regeneration after exercise'.
Warnecke became the oldest person to win a swimming world title since 1971, when he did so at the age of 35 in 2005.
He has been working alongside Liverpool nutritionist Mona Nemmer, who has previously worked with Bayern Munich. Warnecke describes Nemmer as "the best nutritionist ever."
Warnecke's drinks helped American swimmer Dara Torres, a 12-time Olympic medallist, to come out of retirement at the age of 41, after having a child, and record her best times in 20 years.
Warnecke became the oldest person to win a swimming world title since 1971, when he did so at the age of 35 in 2005.
He has been working alongside Liverpool nutritionist Mona Nemmer, who has previously worked with Bayern Munich. Warnecke describes Nemmer as "the best nutritionist ever."
Warnecke's drinks helped American swimmer Dara Torres, a 12-time Olympic medallist, to come out of retirement at the age of 41, after having a child, and record her best times in 20 years.
Whos got the better juicers? pep or klopp?
So Liverpool is on the get you out of retirement magic juice is what you are saying? That juice need to win a Nobel prize.
If you drunk enough of it, you would probably win a Nobel prize!.
Sign me up!
yeah the adrenaline of actually playing for a big prize certainly helps though
Chelsea looked leggy
But our guys bar a few looked unbothered v LFC (they did run in stages but are always a 30 minute team this season)
Don't post reasonable stuff on this thread! This thread is for wild claims and excuses!
Not surprising.
I don't even care about Liverpool but I really have a hard time with mis/ disinformation being used as the foundation for an argument.
If United were being accused of stuff like this (As they were for most of Fergies reign because I'm old enough to remember, or even the penalities under Ole) I would also offer some reasonable explanation that doesn't include "Bent refs", "Matchfixing" , "Scouse'lamic Ray Guns", "63% Asthmatic", "Blood doping" and "Citric Juice PEDs".
As far as I remember the big story from the start of the season at United was how the United players stopped stuffing their faces in the club cafeteria because Ronaldo arrived with his dedicated diet.
At the time that was celebrated as the great influence that Ronnie was to have on the squad, what it actually was a major red flag that something wasn't right at the club.
Player diet/ nutrition something that the biggest clubs in Europe have prioritized for years.
Is it a surprise that the players at other top European clubs put those guys to shame when it comes to fitness?
Im sure EtH will transform the situation within 18 months, as Klopp did at Liverpool.
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