Is this thinking flawed? Do all our signings have to be under a certain price? I think we should sign the best players available to give us the best possible chance of success. Am I wrong?
Let’s shop in Aldi from now on because we got a dodgy turkey in M&S that one time
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The best possible players don’t necessarily have to be the most expensive. Cheap doesn’t automatically equate to bad.
But generally, price shouldn’t be a primary deciding factor.
In fairness, Aldi ran M&S pretty close this year, for best UK Supermarket. 78% to 77%
https://www.nationalworld.com/lifes...ket-marks-spencer-aldi-iceland-online-3586022
Put it this way: Robertson cost £8m. Shaw cost £30m
https://www.nationalworld.com/lifes...ket-marks-spencer-aldi-iceland-online-3586022
Put it this way: Robertson cost £8m. Shaw cost £30m
Of course, I got many a cracking deal at Aldi, maybe not as nourishing a meal as the M&S alternative but still good enough.
I actually find there’s a myth about how expensive M&S is if you shop right it often equates to less than Tesco for example, same can be said for a football comparison..
I never rated Shaw. Never got the hype. Robertson played against Ireland for Scotland a few years before Liverpool signed him and I remember thinking he is a fecking good player.
I hope you're not suggesting my analogy is flawed and therefore this thread has a limited shelf life?
We should sign the players who fits the way manager wants to play. That should be first criteria.
We can sign better players for good price, all we need is bit of research instead of just going for the same lazy options.
Definitely agree with that.
It's just that we can't afford big mistakes during a rebuild.
We could do so in our peak the way we did with veron for example but not now.
We could do so in our peak the way we did with veron for example but not now.
He really is.
Keeping in line with the thread title, Andrew Robertson was actually a shelf packer for M&S whilst playing part time for Queen's Park.
Turns out that Andrew Robertson literallly did come from M&S.
Let's pretend 5 years ago rashford plays for everton and offered to us for 50m.
We would have thought that's a great piece of business for the next rooney.
We give him 5 years of playing time and today we ended up with shit instead of gold. Even if rashford is free he'd have cost a lot opportunity cost stinking up the place.
So buying cheap and proven is a lottery and we cant afford the game time for something that's 50-50 at best.
We could have hoard 20m youngster and loan them ala Chelsea but they wont impact the first team.
So it's not as simple as that. Most promising youngster have been tapped up by agents from the age of 10s and they warrant substantial amount of fee and see point above.
We coukd have spread our wings and take kids at 10s but that would meant years of reorganization and substantial fee.
Business wise it's best to just buy good players at their peak ready to perform for 50m. It's like you wanna eat a damn turkey and decided to breed your own turkey just for 2 turkey you wanna eat at Thanksgiving
We would have thought that's a great piece of business for the next rooney.
We give him 5 years of playing time and today we ended up with shit instead of gold. Even if rashford is free he'd have cost a lot opportunity cost stinking up the place.
So buying cheap and proven is a lottery and we cant afford the game time for something that's 50-50 at best.
We could have hoard 20m youngster and loan them ala Chelsea but they wont impact the first team.
So it's not as simple as that. Most promising youngster have been tapped up by agents from the age of 10s and they warrant substantial amount of fee and see point above.
We coukd have spread our wings and take kids at 10s but that would meant years of reorganization and substantial fee.
Business wise it's best to just buy good players at their peak ready to perform for 50m. It's like you wanna eat a damn turkey and decided to breed your own turkey just for 2 turkey you wanna eat at Thanksgiving
Sell by date doesn’t look good..
Say, Frenkie De Jong is M&S bargain aisle and Kalvin Phillips is Tesco finest, but both cost £60m.
You may as well go with the quality over the other as the chef has good history with the M&S version.
Sometimes i struggle with thread titles.
Remember back in the day when everyone said Ferguson wouldn't sign a player before doing a character check first. Was that load of bollocks? We really need that kind of detail now either way. Only winners need apply.
Classic Stan thread title.
Even look at Tottenham they went shopping in Juventus and picked up two quality players and will now probably get 4th because of it, it’s getting good players that matter not where they come from.
It depends on what turkey you bought from M&S. This year we went for 'our best ever' crown which cost a fair bit more than the others in the shop but it was fantastic.
A picture of it before it went into the oven. I put a bar of butter on top just to make it more unhealthy:
Here it was just after carving. Note the delicious stuffing on the end. This is not a shitty Aldi turkey... This is an M&S turkey for affluent and like-minded folks:
Here it is on the plate before I added the gravy and bread sauce. Yum yum. Only the finest for me:
A picture of it before it went into the oven. I put a bar of butter on top just to make it more unhealthy:
Here it was just after carving. Note the delicious stuffing on the end. This is not a shitty Aldi turkey... This is an M&S turkey for affluent and like-minded folks:
Here it is on the plate before I added the gravy and bread sauce. Yum yum. Only the finest for me:
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A Turkey from M&S?It depends on what turkey you bought from M&S. This year we went for 'our best ever' crown which cost a fair bit more than the others in the shop but it was fantastic.
A picture of it before it went into the oven. I put a bar of butter on top just to make it more unhealthy:
Here it was just after carving. Note the delicious stuffing on the end. This is not a shitty Aldi turkey... This is an affluent and like-minded M&S turkey:
Here it is on the plate before I added the gravy and bread sauce. Yum yum. Only the finest for me:
Did you name him Paul Pogba?
Because we talk like the richest club in the world/ also likes to be known as the biggest club in the world when we are not -
We get Aldi foods for the price of M&S.
What we need to do is get only m&s food for m&s prices.
Look at the aldi line but only pay aldi prices for them because paying m&s for aldi stuff is not worth it.
We get Aldi foods for the price of M&S.
What we need to do is get only m&s food for m&s prices.
Look at the aldi line but only pay aldi prices for them because paying m&s for aldi stuff is not worth it.
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Let's all go to Tescos where Haggy buys his best clothes!
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Nice. Reminds me of when we signed Yorke even though Kidd was imploring Ferguson to sign Hartson.It depends on what turkey you bought from M&S. This year we went for 'our best ever' crown which cost a fair bit more than the others in the shop but it was fantastic.
A picture of it before it went into the oven. I put a bar of butter on top just to make it more unhealthy:
Here it was just after carving. Note the delicious stuffing on the end. This is not a shitty Aldi turkey... This is an M&S turkey for affluent and like-minded folks:
Here it is on the plate before I added the gravy and bread sauce. Yum yum. Only the finest for me:
Also, don't write off Sainsbury's and Tesco:
With Sainsbury's you can get Nectar points. With Tesco, there's the Tesco Card.
With Sainsbury's you can get Nectar points. With Tesco, there's the Tesco Card.
The Waitrose exclusive shoppers are looking at this thread with equal measures of confusion, fascination and disgust.
when I was 16 i worked in a place that made M&S meals, and haven't touched any food from there since
Aldi is fantastic though. Quality is just as good as M&S. Aldi though can really surprise you, especially with its special buy items.
Bit early to write off Garnacho.
With M&S you do have the advantage of a sparks card which atleast gives you loyalty points and promotional offers.
I don't think such scheme exists with Aldi.
Plus have you seen the queues in Aldi? fecking hell
I don't think such scheme exists with Aldi.
Plus have you seen the queues in Aldi? fecking hell
I think we should go back to a time when buying premium was rare and only for talent that was actually worth it (Rio, Stam etc). The rest was spent on talent who are a step or two away from greatness whom we needed to develop. We also need to be careful not to buy pound shop products on Harrods prices as Ole did in his first transfer window
That roast looks decent, but could use some Yorkshires, more veg and some sauce.It depends on what turkey you bought from M&S. This year we went for 'our best ever' crown which cost a fair bit more than the others in the shop but it was fantastic.
A picture of it before it went into the oven. I put a bar of butter on top just to make it more unhealthy:
Here it was just after carving. Note the delicious stuffing on the end. This is not a shitty Aldi turkey... This is an M&S turkey for affluent and like-minded folks:
Here it is on the plate before I added the gravy and bread sauce. Yum yum. Only the finest for me:
Luis Diaz cost 35m.
There’s value in the market if you look for it.
There’s value in the market if you look for it.
We also need to be careful not to buy Pound shop products on Harrods prices as well (ex Maguire and AWB)
I prefer to shop at Booths personally. Quality local produce.
To be fair, we shop at Burberry (Shaw, Maguire, AWB, Pogba - keeping the Beanz duo) basically expensive chavy looking shite when we should be shopping at Levi's, strong, durable and doesn't crumble when put under some stress.
Look at PSG, they have Mbappe, Messi and Neymar and they struggled. The best possible team, does not consist of the best possible players. Regarding the price, the price should not be a problem regarding the top top talents. Nobody would blink an eye if we bring Mbappe or Haaland for 200m this summer, however buying players like Maguire for 80mp pounds, Fred for 50+m pounds is absolute dogshit crazy. We could have gone shopping to Aldi and bought a better midfielder for 20m at the time we bought Fred.
Buy up and coming players and develop them add a few proven winners and you've got a team that should be fine. We rarely buy the finished article.
The best possible players that fit a system obviously. For example a lot of people don't want Rice because we'd be 'ripped off'. I'd give my left testicle to have him in our team next season though.
The last decade provides nine of our ten most expensive signings of all time, too early to judge Sancho, probably Fernandes too considering the last year.....but it looks like definately more than one Turkey, more like virtually the entire shelf.
I dontt think its about buying the luxury top purchases from M & S anyway, look at the list and its more that we have been paying supermarket prices at hugely inflated prices like they are in the current world, long before they became inflated. We have simply spent way above wha tthe prices should have been for several players. Maguires £80m for example was comparable with when we spent £30m on Ferdinand. Ferdinand was always a massively talented centre back, Maguire was doing well at Leicester but he was never such a player long before the catastophe of a plyaer he has been this season, just a good centre back.
Its about signing the right players and not paying stupid prices for them, but this summer we may have £200m and we need 6/7 signings to realistically significantly progress the quality of our side with severalplayers leaving regardless of wheter we want to keep them or not. So we can maybe make one big signing n terms of transfer fee but I think this summer would be far more successfull if we get significant numbers in of generally younger players breaking through on the verge of things. We need a minimum of five signings I feel, thats £40m per player, throw in a £60/70m signing and its very difficult for another four, I dont think we spend over £50m on anyone and that isnt a bad thing as personally bar Rice at an astranomical fee or Kane the same, none of the other players I think cost those type of fees are attainable DejOng/Bellingham or want to come OR in my opinion are worth the fees Nunez being an example.
I think there are a whole host of excellent young players way under £50m worth signing. The only players I would pay slightly over £50m for I think we could buy would be Gvardiol and maybe Fofana
I dontt think its about buying the luxury top purchases from M & S anyway, look at the list and its more that we have been paying supermarket prices at hugely inflated prices like they are in the current world, long before they became inflated. We have simply spent way above wha tthe prices should have been for several players. Maguires £80m for example was comparable with when we spent £30m on Ferdinand. Ferdinand was always a massively talented centre back, Maguire was doing well at Leicester but he was never such a player long before the catastophe of a plyaer he has been this season, just a good centre back.
Its about signing the right players and not paying stupid prices for them, but this summer we may have £200m and we need 6/7 signings to realistically significantly progress the quality of our side with severalplayers leaving regardless of wheter we want to keep them or not. So we can maybe make one big signing n terms of transfer fee but I think this summer would be far more successfull if we get significant numbers in of generally younger players breaking through on the verge of things. We need a minimum of five signings I feel, thats £40m per player, throw in a £60/70m signing and its very difficult for another four, I dont think we spend over £50m on anyone and that isnt a bad thing as personally bar Rice at an astranomical fee or Kane the same, none of the other players I think cost those type of fees are attainable DejOng/Bellingham or want to come OR in my opinion are worth the fees Nunez being an example.
I think there are a whole host of excellent young players way under £50m worth signing. The only players I would pay slightly over £50m for I think we could buy would be Gvardiol and maybe Fofana
The main reason for keeping individual player prices down this summer would be because we have a lot of positions that need filling.
If I have a tenner and go to the farm shop that has a gravy that I like for £8.50, I might be able to get a couple of veggies from Aldi, but I'll probably end up raiding my neighbours' bins to find some chicken.
This could lead to me throwing up the entire meal and being hungry again.