But I don't think it became public knowledge about the drinking culture until after he'd done it. I thought the fan thing was a threat rather than an occurrence?
From what I remember it was a threat in order for players to start performing.
Ha! Imaging Martial being a hard worker under ETH is the last thing I was expecting to hear today.
Brilliant post. Would be madness from Ten Hag and Murtough to say anything else.
Ronaldos wage won't reduce.
The drinking culture was well known to regulars of The Griffin in Bowdon and various hotels in Sale, but as there was no social media back then that’s as far as it got.
It's both. In terms of ability we lack a lot of technique.
Totally agree.
Just imagine! Good old FredThe fact you want Conte says you’ve learnt absolutely zero about the last 10 years. Rather them than people like you.
What does this nonsense even mean?
Our squad is probably 2/3 levels above where that Liverpool squad was. More deflection, more excuses that are full of nonsense.
If he priorities defence over that attack we are absolutely screwed. Our defence is far less of an issue than the attack and midfield.
Conte is a proven winner who could have easily achieved our season objectives. Not every managerial appointment is a happily ever after type of appointment, Madrid and Chelsea go through more managers than us but they never really fall off a cliff like we do. The sooner we accept that Sir Alex was a one-off the better for everyone.
Agreed more nonsense aimed at bashing Utd and ole and deflecting from the terrible job Ragnick has done.
Oh where have I heard that before…ahh yes when we hired the “proven winner” Mourinho. Conte isn’t a Utd manager in style, stature or substance. It’s not enough to win, we need to win the right way, otherwise why not feck off and support Chelsea?
Then we’ll finish fifth or sixth. While I understand your last paragraph and somewhat agree, it isn’t happening unless we make at least six signings in key areas. There are just too many gaps.
You can literally say the same about all our rivals. Spurs are shite they just have two good players. Arsenal are shite. Chelsea are not that great either they just have a good manager. The manager makes a far bigger difference than the players.
I don’t think we can? While Arsenal and Spurs might have generally weaker squads than we do, neither of them are losing up to ten players in one window.
Yet the same Mourinho is still the last manager to add any meaningful siverware to our trophy cabinet. We just mistimed his dismisal, he really shouldn't have stayed beyond the summer of 2018.
Imagine Best on social media!
Nah if you only support Utd for the trophies you can feck off as far as I’m concerned. This club has and will always be about more.
The 'more' you talk about should always culminate in winning. Its defeatist to tout intangibles when football is a contest for trophies, we can agree that we have a way that we go about doing it just as Barcelona or Ajax have but we aren't even doing what we claim to do in order to achieve the more you are talking about. This is nothing more than an excuse for failure.
Yeh I agree we need to ultimately win but we shouldn’t sacrifice our soul just to achieve that. If you have to do that then ultimately what is the point? I’d much rather wait longer and then get genuine deserved success that fluke some horrible win under a manager like Mourinho or Conte who simply don’t understand Utd and our ‘heritage’. Barca have been through a rough patch and they haven’t caved on their vision, Utd shouldn’t either, all we need to do is implement it better!
Let’s hope the board doesn’t think that covering it in glitter like Ole and Mourinho did, will suffice.
Look here, when had Mourinho and he led us to the CL and an FA Cup Final appearance we had revenues of over £600m nearly catching Real Madrid in the revenue tables. Thats a lot of potential right there which could have put us in good stead had we not wasted in on Ole.
I know. I was there! I lived round the corner from The Griffin and some of my United-supporting friends lived (and still live) in Sale.
You sound angry in this thread. Take a day off for yourself. That you think this squad of ours is 2/3 levels above Liverpools back then is downright fkin laughable.
Let's not.
