Because he didn't even try and put forward a sensible reason for why he killed his neighbour's dog. What's difficult to understand about why that would be extremely weird if he had actually done it for a good reason? De-escalation doesn't appear to be his strong point there does it?
Cop in America doing a bad job, again
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
It's more likely that the cop is improperly socialised based on the evidence we have.
Indeed.
Offer it to whom...the guy who entered onto his property cursing and screaming at him?
Yes. Because he's a policeman who ought to be able to imagine his neighbour might be angry that he'd just shot his dog and who ought to be trained in de-escalation of such a situation. But if you're both thick and fully guilty then there isn't much you can say really is there?
I guess you are an expert in de-escalation.
Some may see him getting an angry man off your property without violence as de-escalation.
But to each his own. I guess
Haven’t watched the video. Did he actually use the ‘A Few Good Men’ line?
I've managed to go through life without shooting anyone's dog without explanation so if that makes me an expert in de-escalation, let's go with that. I think I'm just going to assume you're brainwashed and/or daft if you can't admit his reaction was as guilty as the crime he'd just committed.
Really? He squared up to him and then said he was proud that he shot the man's dog. Some de-escalation.
His wife was actually trying to de-escalate, by trying to get him to come inside.
He had ample opportunity to make excuses or explain himself. It's not like it was a monologue from the dog owner.
The way the conversation went it also seems that the poor dog went on his property for the first time.
Sometimes squaring up to someone rather than cowering/apologising is precisely what de-escalates a situation.
The deputy only "squared up" when the guy was trying to enter onto what I assume is the rear deck of the property. Maybe you neglected to hear that the guy threatened to shoot the Deputy around the 0:38-0:40 Sec mark in the clip.
When leaving the property he shouted "You fcuked with the wrong marine"
I cannot say whether the shooting was justified or not, knowing America, it is possible that the cop overreacted. But to pretend as if the owner was not negligent in firstly securing his dog or that he did not enter onto the guy's property in a disrespectful and aggressive manner is ludicrous.
Society seems to have devolved into where either you're a '100% right or a 100% wrong/ if you're not with us you're against us ' form of discourse that I find quite disturbing. It promotes a degree of intolerance that does no one any good in my opinion
I can’t not hear Jack Nicholson every time I read the “you fecked with the wrong marine” quote.
Yep.
Don’t know what’s worse. Him shooting a man in the neck or that the first thing they think of doing afterwards is handcuff him.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all and in fairness I don’t know how other countries do it. It’s still absurd to watch.
Scene security and then medical assistance. That being said, that’s based on a situation where you know someone was armed or combative and you don’t want to focus on doing things without the party and weapons being secured etc. I’m not sure what happened here or what led up to the contact like this, so I’m not sure if weapons were involved or not.
I don't know what else to say!!
I shudder to think of how many times this stuff happened in the past, when there weren't cameras in 100% of people's pockets. Of course, it's still happening anyway, so... yeah. It reminds me of the overwhelming amounts of instances of police brutality during the George Floyd protests. Sometimes against clearly marked live TV crews.
I guess the presence of a camera made it less likely he ended up shot for resisting or something.
You can see from the blonde cop's body language that he really wanted to put the hurt on the black guy.
Definitely. If there wasn't a camera, and certainly if there wasn't a witness, no way he'd come out of that as "well" as he did.
@calodo2003 another example of what you were asking about earlier. At this point they went straight to addressing the injuries. Sometimes the officers need to take that second to assess and see what the proper course of action should be. As soon as the threats over, “suspect” changes to “patient” and medical attention needs to go towards whatever injuries were sustained from the use of force.
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I can’t embed IG reels - but this worth watching to see how deeply racist some of the US police force is.
I can’t embed IG reels - but this worth watching to see how deeply racist some of the US police force is.
Not being sarcastic, but is there a link to that video that isn't a 16:9 video inside a vertical format inside an Instagram post?
There is probably.
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Our review of the investigation revealed the defendant, although she denied having a weapon at the time of the encounter with law enforcement officers, continually displayed a weapon during her encounter with police officers and also appeared to be attempting to flee. The two officers stated that she was armed with what they believed to be a handgun. Body camera footage confirms the officers’ statements that Hale was holding a handgun. Still photos, taken from body cam footage, of this encounter also demonstrate a weapon was present and in the hands of the defendant.
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where did her ankle go
same place as her left wrist I suppose.
What a fecking useless piece of shit. He should be paraded in a walk of shame in the streets of Buffalo with a huge sign that says "I'm the useless 911 dispatcher who let 10 innocents down" around his neck and then get spat on by the angry populace.
I'm curious as to what kind of training you have in use of force and de-escalation.
It is nice.
It feels like the cop killings have been on a bit of a hiatus with all the mass shootings taking centre stage recently but I'm guessing there's been more than enough to go around.
It's absolutely mindblowing that you're no safer from the people meant to protect you than all the nutjobs sporting their AR-15s. It just adds another layer to the already fecked up dynamic that exists in the US.
What a mess!
It's absolutely mindblowing that you're no safer from the people meant to protect you than all the nutjobs sporting their AR-15s. It just adds another layer to the already fecked up dynamic that exists in the US.
What a mess!