as a 10 i heard. In fact, we might employ him as a false 9, seeing as we almost dont have any capable strikers.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Where would Bruno go? Wide?
He has his issues with LVG but that was one of many issues he had and the other issues meant his issues with the coach escalated. At Real or PSG, he would try to work it out.
Didn’t want to leave RM and United were not his first choice
“My move to PSG could have happened before this summer but it didn’t for financial reasons and I ended up going to United”
Wife was against it and money was only factor
“An offer from Manchester United has come in. Maybe we’ll be a little more financially secure.’”
“We were perfect, the weather was perfect, the food was perfect. And suddenly he said that there was a proposal to go to Manchester. I told him, ‘Not a chance. You are going alone. ‘No, come on. Let’s go’, he replied
“It was horrible. Manchester is the worst. It is all horrible in Manchester. In fact, I fought a lot with Angel about it”
I think the above two, and arguments with his wife meant he was always looking for an out.
Jesus Christ, it was a joke, he will play as a 6 in a double pivot obviously.
Not really relevant though is it? Sometimes players move clubs when they don’t really want to and are still good.
Yes, but Robben had hair loss and was bald. FDJ has a full head of hair.
I dunno, you have to be careful what you joke about. There was a lad thinking Origi would be a good alternative to FDJ if the move didn’t happen. He wasn’t joking
This was be a transfer of epic proportions. I can see people tracking planes and shit already
Very rarely do we have a summer window where we get the one player that I would want at the club at United the most. Think the last time was Pogba, and then arguably Sancho, if he were to be signed the summer before he actually did. For years everytime mention of Barca’s financial crisis arises my first comment is always ‘we should bully them for Frenkie’ - although never in a million years did I see it actually happening. Now, by all accounts, we are close. I couldn’t be happier. Having a team built around actual football is all I’ve wanted for us for years. Quality. Not all the other stuff, but first and foremost - I want us to be a better football team because we have better football handlers than you. This would be a huge step.
I must say that it is also tinged with some hesitation because to me, we need a midfield, not a midfielder - and I can’t see how we will get the best out of a player I think can be the world’s best midfielder in any combination of the existing unit. He’s the only player who looks to play football first and foremost of out senior mids, so him trying to lend and share the ball with teammates who possess no calmness or look to get shot of it anywhere within a second isn’t the most ideal. Still, it would be a huge step, and the right partner for De Jong plus at least 10 PL goals being brought in in any position would see me a very happy red this summer.
I must say that it is also tinged with some hesitation because to me, we need a midfield, not a midfielder - and I can’t see how we will get the best out of a player I think can be the world’s best midfielder in any combination of the existing unit. He’s the only player who looks to play football first and foremost of out senior mids, so him trying to lend and share the ball with teammates who possess no calmness or look to get shot of it anywhere within a second isn’t the most ideal. Still, it would be a huge step, and the right partner for De Jong plus at least 10 PL goals being brought in in any position would see me a very happy red this summer.
Have no clue about this kid, hence my ignorance.
He’ll likely play as one of two central midfielders.
Thanks. Didn’t know ETH was going to use a 4231. Learn something new every day.
knew I'd forgotten one
6 in a 433 I would think
-------De Jong------
Bruno----------Fred
Something like that
Good post mate. I share same point of view but you put it in the word better than I can.
There would be a fear that if we didn’t bring in another quality player or two for him to link up with and Ten Hag can’t get the required improvement from our current players then Frankie could suffer and his form go backwards as has happened with so many players over past few years.
Im hopeful this won’t happen though. In Ten Hag we trust!!( trust that is already building with him getting this signing done)
Groovy
Then we’d never hear the end of it.
I guess what the stats point to is what Ajax folk have said, that De Jong / Schöne acted as more or less a double pivot, changing who were more DM/behind.If you think he’s lot like Pogba then let me show you something. Schone was his midfield partner in 18/19 under ten Hag and look at who made more defensive contributions out of the two? Pogba wouldn’t be able to do that for sure because the guy can’t defend.
Fair enough, mate - I do disagree. Maybe in his early days he was more negative but i find him fairly balanced these days. And you're right - who cares - bring on Frenkie!Goldbridge goes live two or three times a day, so even when there isn't anything to say, he finds something to talk about. And sometimes it's okay not to have an opinion. But that's not practical when your job involves... being opinionated. So he just has to come up with something. This often involves spurious, cynical takes that are to the benefit of no-one other than himself. He assimilates himself to his audience to keep the super-chats rolling.
He is a persona, he's admitted as much - I actually think he comes across well when he's not 'in character'. But his voice travels amongst section of the online fanbase - so his opinions get parroted online. The incessant negativity is just tedious.
But this isn't a Goldbridge thread... De Jong is a real coup.
They said you are cool we are good here
Goldbridge was only unbearable for me during the Cavani shit. It was almost petulance.
Frenkie can play. He is young and United has to trust Erik, who is a solid coach - let him do his thing.
And who is to say the other bozos won’t improve under Erik, a good coach can make or break you
Fred is a starter for fecking Brazil - on paper the strongest national team in the world along France - so maybe Erik will get more usage out of him.
Was hoping not to see Fred on a teamsheet ever again...
ETH can still play lone no 6 for de jong’s role if he plays inverted full backs or playing 3 at the back. In 18/19, he didn’t play inverted full back but his full backs stay wider, which is why ETH played that 2 off no 6. De jong won’t play no 8 for sure.
The Origi role.
What will he report next? A car has four wheels, an engine and a steering wheel?
Eh? Or maybe Frenkie is an ETH-type player? Someone like a Klopp may not have as much need for him?
you've missed the point completely
These last few years; I have come to the realisation that a lot of United fans here are really into United or football .... just to catch the stardust of winning silverware, which we did a lot in the past.I dunno, you have to be careful what you joke about. There was a lad thinking Origi would be a good alternative to FDJ if the move didn’t happen. He wasn’t joking
Now that United isn't winning much, they are constantly slagging off our own players, management etc and really don't know shite about how the game is played.
One key ingredient of being a supporter of a club is loyalty -- and you give the RAWKs a lot of credit. Here, it's either ignorance or United as some pinata to beat up.
My bad.
Would he be our best midfielder since Scholesy
At least our most press-resistant midfielder since Scholsey.
FdJ would be great, but not for 100mil€. Barcelona is delusional. I’d walk and move to next target if Barcelona say no to 80mil. To negotiate you have to be willing to walk away.
Spoiler, we'll get him, and it won't be for 100 million Euros.
Yeah he certainly has demonstrated press resistant ability in many games, likes a burst through the middle as well by the looks of it.
Funny that word/phrase press resistant wasn't used on Scholes. Nor common then.
For players like him where the club doesnt want them anymore, staying would be much much worse than leaving. I think that is sometimes overlooked.
Scholes is not press resistant to the extend of someone like FdJ. Yes in the right set up Scholes is untouchable, but standalone he's prone go direct with passing (good passing, not percentage ball though) to get away from pressing.
FdJ is like Redondo that that he invites opposition pressing, then works his way through without the need to go long.
The last thing you should do if you have a divided down the middle dressing room is sign players associated with your former club because both factions will think the ex-Ajax lot are being favoured.
Also, think he is more a tika-taka City player than a hard-running Man Utd player. Can't be worse than Pogba, that's for sure.
Also, think he is more a tika-taka City player than a hard-running Man Utd player. Can't be worse than Pogba, that's for sure.
Prefers to play as a left winger is what I've heard.
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