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We’ve already gotten our most important signing of the summer. Gap will be closing.Seeing the Halaand and Nunez announcements is very depressing.
Especially when even if we sign FDJ that's not some major improvement for us. All that is is replacing Pogba with Greenwood still to replace before we start actually improving in what we already had.
Gap only growing.
Haaland is more of a sure thing. Núñez might need time to adapt if he even does.Seeing the Halaand and Nunez announcements is very depressing.
Especially when even if we sign FDJ that's not some major improvement for us. All that is is replacing Pogba with Greenwood still to replace before we start actually improving in what we already had.
Gap only growing.
I’m sure that both will perform well (over 15 goals in EPL) in this season, if they can adapt English football and don’t have hard injuries.Haaland is more of a sure thing. Núñez might need time to adapt if he even does.
10 years of Woody and poor decisions have left us where we are.
Agree, you must respect god “ Origi”.Should've retired Divock's number out of respect for the great man. Big shoes to fill.
Sure but the player gap is massive and gotten bigger in last 6 months.We’ve already gotten our most important signing of the summer. Gap will be closing.
Unfortunately everyone walks straight into Klopps team and succeedsHaaland is more of a sure thing. Núñez might need time to adapt if he even does.
10 years of Woody and poor decisions have left us where we are.
Eh, Frenkie De Jong coming in as an enormous improvement. It'd probably be the single biggest improvement any club makes this window, not counting getting an actual coach like ETH in instead of Ole and then an interim with MLS coaches assisting. FDJ over Pogba (a demotivated Pogba who has long declined and is always injured and isn't a natural to play deep and doesn't have press resistant qualities which meant he always made mistakes that got punished) is going to be like night and day. Frenkie is Modrić-esque in his ability to keep hold of the ball under pressure, with his on the ball dribbling/movement and reliable passing.Seeing the Halaand and Nunez announcements is very depressing.
Especially when even if we sign FDJ that's not some major improvement for us. All that is is replacing Pogba with Greenwood still to replace before we start actually improving in what we already had.
Gap only growing.
It’s big, sure, but I don’t think it’s as big as this season suggests. I think a top coach like Ten Hag with a full pre-season will improve our players a lot and we’ll start looking like a proper team again next season, especially if we can get in 3+ solid players during the summer, which I fully expect us to do.Sure but the player gap is massive and gotten bigger in last 6 months.
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Yes and no.Unfortunately everyone walks straight into Klopps team and succeeds
Your prescription has to be fine-tuned. You can't just breath onto the field like that.Yes and no.
Fabinho, Robertson, Ox, Thiago all had to wait a while before getting regular starts. There is, at times, a period of intense acclimatisation. There are obvious quick starters - most recently Jota and Diaz - but patience is offered when required.
True.Your prescription has to be fine-tuned. You can't just breath onto the field like that.
2007 called, it wants its relevance backDoes this signing and the subsequent fanfare/expectations fall in line with the Liverpool boom-bust cycle?
Hmmmm ... 3 meaningful (PL/CL) trophies in 17 years and such arrogance? The graph may have moved a bit but I'm sure it has maintained a similar shape in 14 of the last 17 years.2007 called, it wants its relevance back
Arrogance? Suggesting Liverpool aren’t engaged in an in-season boom-bust cycle is arrogant? Okay.Hmmmm ... 3 meaningful (PL/CL) trophies in 17 years and such arrogance? The graph may have moved a bit but I'm sure it has maintained a similar shape in 14 of the last 17 years.
FDJ is the perfect player for ETH's system though, he already knows the tactics of ETH so will be an easier and faster transition. Frenkie is a miles better player for ETH than Pogba would be. This in itself makes the team an improvement from last season if FDJ does actually join.Seeing the Halaand and Nunez announcements is very depressing.
Especially when even if we sign FDJ that's not some major improvement for us. All that is is replacing Pogba with Greenwood still to replace before we start actually improving in what we already had.
Gap only growing.
You view the same view about FDJ as me. United needs a press-resistant midfielder who can bring the ball forward from zone5 and De Jong is one of the best in the world at this department plus he knows ETH’s tactics especially team movements. I’m pretty sure he will upgrade United.FDJ is the perfect player for ETH's system though, he already knows the tactics of ETH so will be an easier and faster transition. Frenkie is a miles better player for ETH than Pogba would be. This in itself makes the team an improvement from last season if FDJ does actually join.
He'll still be playing next to shit Midfield partners.FDJ is the perfect player for ETH's system though, he already knows the tactics of ETH so will be an easier and faster transition. Frenkie is a miles better player for ETH than Pogba would be. This in itself makes the team an improvement from last season if FDJ does actually join.
Funny. The way you talk suggests we have actually signed De Jong.Eh, Frenkie De Jong coming in as an enormous improvement. It'd probably be the single biggest improvement any club makes this window, not counting getting an actual coach like ETH in instead of Ole and then an interim with MLS coaches assisting. FDJ over Pogba (a demotivated Pogba who has long declined and is always injured and isn't a natural to play deep and doesn't have press resistant qualities which meant he always made mistakes that got punished) is going to be like night and day. Frenkie is Modrić-esque in his ability to keep hold of the ball under pressure, with his on the ball dribbling/movement and reliable passing.
Darwin isn't an improvement on Mane for Liverpool, though they will be different now and who knows how he progresses. Haaland obviously a big improvement for City though. I'm more concerned with us though. Let's revisit in a couple of years and see where we stand, for now we aren't competing with them but De Jong in would hugely accelerate the process to make that step up.
I think your missing the point anyway. Wether he is better is irrelevant. The point is we are only swapping one big asset out for another.Eh, Frenkie De Jong coming in as an enormous improvement. It'd probably be the single biggest improvement any club makes this window, not counting getting an actual coach like ETH in instead of Ole and then an interim with MLS coaches assisting. FDJ over Pogba (a demotivated Pogba who has long declined and is always injured and isn't a natural to play deep and doesn't have press resistant qualities which meant he always made mistakes that got punished) is going to be like night and day. Frenkie is Modrić-esque in his ability to keep hold of the ball under pressure, with his on the ball dribbling/movement and reliable passing.
Darwin isn't an improvement on Mane for Liverpool, though they will be different now and who knows how he progresses. Haaland obviously a big improvement for City though. I'm more concerned with us though. Let's revisit in a couple of years and see where we stand, for now we aren't competing with them but De Jong in would hugely accelerate the process to make that step up.
Yes.Does this signing and the subsequent fanfare/expectations fall in line with the Liverpool boom-bust cycle?
why is it depressing? It’s not your money. Sancho is/was a much more accomplished player than NunezMost depressing is Nunez' salary at 140K/week compared to Sancho' 350K/week.
If he comes in***Funny. The way you talk suggests we have actually signed De Jong.
I feel like you're missing the point here actually! It's not swapping 1 big asset for another. It's getting rid of a long underperforming, injury prone and poorly fitting player for a player that fits what we need and the new manager perfectly (while being younger, and less injury prone). A world class player if used correctly makes a hell of a difference to a team. Finding a partner for FdJ is a lot simpler than finding a way to make Pogba work as part of the deeper 2 midfielders. Hell, there's a much better chance at just getting Fred or Mctominay to work with a partner like Frenkie de Jong than there was with Pogba, who quite simply was not naturally a deep playmaker (in any respect). If it happens, combined with the coaching, I think you'll find our midfield is a entirely transformed.I think your missing the point anyway. Wether he is better is irrelevant. The point is we are only swapping one big asset out for another.
The key think is the second Midfielder that'll be needed beside FDJ. Without that it'll be majorly flawed