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Worth it for the set pieces alone to be honest.
We know how god awful Bruno and Telles are with a dead ball.
We know how god awful Bruno and Telles are with a dead ball.
We also know how god-awful our players are at attacking them.Worth it for the set pieces alone to be honest.
We know how god awful Bruno and Telles are with a dead ball.
The thing is Poch's time was ages ago now and Eriksen was one of the first of that batch to lose their legs in that Spurs team.I don't know how his work rate is now, it used to be good under Poch.
Yeah, I don't think he will be a regular starter but he is good enough to push for starting position. We are short on both quality and quantity, we need to address both.
Eriksen is better than Brunounless we are planning to leave Bruno out of the side then I don't think he will get that much game time.
Better is relative. Bruno has far more of an X factor when in form.Eriksen is better than Bruno
This is the issue, we've never replaced when (supposedly) key squad members have left, for years now. Whether Cavani, Lingard etc actually offered anything isn't the point, and is partly why we performed so badly last season.Well let's hope we get replacements, for Cavani and Lingard also.
With that being said, De Jong and Eriksen, likely won't even happen either.
He's exactly what we need.Good player, but not what we need.
He's not old. He gets around the pitch plenty and quickly enough.He's also too old. We should be looking for younger and quicker players that are capable of getting about the pitch
This would be a very atypical signing for United.This would be a typical United signing.
Why yes, yes he would. And indeed, we do have other needs which is why a free transfer makes so much sense.I guess he would be an okay squad player, but we have other pressing needs.
Eriksen is better than BrunoBetter is relative. Bruno has far more of an X factor when in form.
That said, I love eriksen and really hope he comes.
Hard to argue with so much factual information in that responseEriksen is better than Bruno
That's not remotely true though is it? Eriksen was a bit part player for Spurs come the end, then bench fodder for Inter and now at Brentford.Eriksen is better than Bruno
Yep. I like this transfer and if he is backup to Bruno I predict he'll take his spot soon enoughEriksen is better than Bruno
Recent form you mean more like a year and counting ?That's not remotely true though is it? Eriksen was a bit part player for Spurs come the end, then bench fodder for Inter and now at Brentford.
I don't think people on this forum can look past recent form sadly. Bruno was magical for us for 18 months
Fair enough. So he can play alongside Bruno?I see this as fantastic depth. This is the kind if ball-playing depth you need in a ball-dominant playing style. Currently, we have no top quality possession based ball-dominant midfielders. Bruno is more of a splicer of defences and advancer of the transition. Eriksen can play deeper and played deeper for Brentford. So when Frenkie goes down with injury ( if we get him), Eriksen is the perfect foil. VDB doesn’t have the same passing range as Eriksen and FDJ.
Towards the end of last season, he was better than Bruno, let alone Van de Beek.This screams to me of signing a well-known player just because he is available cheap. Eriksen's good at a lot of things but where is he supposed to even play for us? VDB already never gets game time because Bruno plays every game as cam. Eriksen can't play cm in a double pivot at this stage in his career. Unless we're intending to play him wide which again seems like a waste of his best abilities. We have so many areas that need to be improved in the 1st XI, I'm surprised so many seem happy with us essentially getting a replacement for Mata who never played anyway.
Bruno and our entire team had a terrible end to the season. Eriksen is not actually a better player than Bruno at this point in his career. He was also playing in a team with players far below his level so of course he was going to stand out as by far their most talented player. He did brilliantly, don't get me wrong, but that doesn't mean he can suddenly come in to this Utd team and perform to the exact same levels he did with Brentford where the whole team was shaped around him.Towards the end of last season, he was better than Bruno, let alone Van de Beek.
Not just cheap. FREE!This screams to me of signing a well-known player just because he is available cheap.
He signed for them in the middle of the season, so the team wasn't really built around him, unless they imagined the acquisition, while he was still recovering in the summer. If he looked good while passing onto the likes of Ivan Toney, he'd get a dozen assists just by being on the pitch alongside Ronaldo.Bruno and our entire team had a terrible end to the season. Eriksen is not actually a better player than Bruno at this point in his career. He was also playing in a team with players far below his level so of course he was going to stand out as by far their most talented player. He did brilliantly, don't get me wrong, but that doesn't mean he can suddenly come in to this Utd team and perform to the exact same levels he did with Brentford where the whole team was shaped around him.
Doesn't seem to have harmed Citeh, Liverpool or Chelsea. We need a squad, not just a first XI.Fair enough. So he can play alongside Bruno?
I'd just be concerned we don't get in the situation with too many players in the same position.
ETH may want to keep Garner in the squad for next season. We’re currently lacking depth in that area with Matic and Pogba leaving and who knows if we’ll sign more than one midfielder yet, even though we need more.
Some players are only good enough in some systems. Personally i've seen VDB show flashes of technically being to a very high standard but something about the prem means he's not good enough. However, i'll caveat that with he may well be good enough in ETH's system since I assume he's going to try and replicate what he did at Ajax. Which may well be the only way for VDB to excel in this league. So with the exception of having a manager who knows his game inside out (strength's and weakness) and made him look world class within his system in the CL then if he can implement said system then he may well be an asset for us next season. Obviously i'm living in hope, but it may be that ETH is counting on him to help implement it as a former player and Ajax graduate.Surprised people are really taking DVB into the equation. He could hardly get a game at Everton and looked hugely underwhelming when he played. Why would he suddenly become United quality just because ETH came in? All evidence suggests he's not good enough.
He’s undoubtedly been very underwhelming since coming here. But he’s not had any decent coaches and maybe he’s the type that needs that.Surprised people are really taking DVB into the equation. He could hardly get a game at Everton and looked hugely underwhelming when he played. Why would he suddenly become United quality just because ETH came in? All evidence suggests he's not good enough.
Especially at that price. He is a proper footballer with a brain and we desperately need more of these players. I'm not against runners and physical players but we have way too many.Like De Jong, he is a proper midfield playmaker and would elevate our midfield game. I feel our fans has gotten so used to runners, statistics and average players that they do not remember what makes good footballers anymore.
They clearly changed their structure once he signed as before they used more of a 5-3-2/3-5-2 and with Eriksen they used a 4-3-3. They were smart to change also because the improvement was absolutely huge. Easy to forget now but Brentford were showing relegation form before Eriksen joined. They switched to a more balanced system so he could have more freedom in the midfield without being overwhelmed. At Utd I'd be very suprised if we don't play 4-2-3-1 and he would have far more defensive responsibility in our midfield 2 assuming he starts there and we certainly aren't going to change the entire structure of the team to suit his best abilities in the way that Brentford did.He signed for them in the middle of the season, so the team wasn't really built around him, unless they imagined the acquisition, while he was still recovering in the summer. If he looked good while passing onto the likes of Ivan Toney, he'd get a dozen assists just by being on the pitch alongside Ronaldo.
We need a first team, first though.Doesn't seem to have harmed Citeh, Liverpool or Chelsea. We need a squad, not just a first XI.
Or, we could have sold Bruno, fail to bring in Eriksen, have Barcelona demand a lot more for FDJ and have a bit of money spare but nothing to really spend it on the creative front to replace Bruno as the players with his productivity would either most likely be headed to Champions League clubs or the asking price would be close to what we sold Bruno for in the first place.We could have sold Bruno for decent money instead of giving him hefty new contract (70m +), replace him with free agent Eriksen, sign a DM+FDJ on top of that, and all of a sudden our midfield would look completely different.
I think Eriksen is more disciplined and much better fit in ETH system than Bruno and he is free on top of that...
I m far from a high bar thinker on Bruno (I think he’ll be gone or at best a bench warmer before we become consistently strong), but you must know that any player who doesn’t play for Manchester United is a better player than any player who does play for Manchester United.That's not remotely true though is it? Eriksen was a bit part player for Spurs come the end, then bench fodder for Inter and now at Brentford.
I don't think people on this forum can look past recent form sadly. Bruno was magical for us for 18 months
Every single player in the squad bar two were totally out of form so this point doesn't count. Clearly it's a bigger squad problem than loss of formRecent form you mean more like a year and counting ?
Also Bruno's best time has come under a brief stint under Ole. If you look beyond that he failed at Italy and was playing in the Portuguese league.