Every season, it feels like we get to the end of it then look around, blow our cheeks out and ask "So who's available then?". This summer looking no different so far.
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It's going to be a long summer window. If we are stacked in a position then we won't buy until we sell and right now we are stacked in attack and defense (doesn't matter the quality). This means, as Ducker has stated already, signing an attacker is dependent on selling Martial and signing RB and CB is also dependent on sales.
I'm guessing reinforcing the midfield - CM and DM is the priority...basically replacing Matic and Pogba
I'm guessing reinforcing the midfield - CM and DM is the priority...basically replacing Matic and Pogba
I find the bubble some people are putting themselves in, where we somehow exist outside the realm of what's going on around us, quite fascinating to observe.
Like getting the bodies in by close of the window is all that matters, settling in and acclimatisation be damned.
If your supposed rivals are getting their houses in order, and they're already ahead of you with less work to do in the window, there should be a raised eyebrow at the very least. I see posts on here that are the dog in burning building saying everything is perfectly fine, brought straight out of the meme.
Supposedly it's objective, but the reasoning absolutely does not stand up to scrutiny.
If ever a manager needs things sorted as succinctly as possible, it's one new to a country, league and squad, particularly one that is rubbish and playing catch up from the outset.
DM isn't a priority at all. Someone at the club clearly thinks highly of Fred as a DM. No other way to explain why for 2-3 years when it's apparent that's what we need we haven't even remotely tried to bring one in.
We've clearly reached the stage of the summer where it's one of two situations:
1. ETH and the new crew are really quietly going about their business, and the press have no clue (outside FDJ)
2. ETH and the new crew are doing sweet f*ck all and we're once again going to do a transfer window wrong by not integrating players in pre-season
Given the fact that 7 first teamers have left the club - and these were oddly celebrated as a social media event - someone is aware we have a large hole in our playing squad. So I have, HAVE to assume it's the former option. Which would be amazing. It's in the boards interest, the manager's interest and of course our interest to have a really good summer. If they don't sort it out, the pressure is going to continue to mount in a way that at the very least makes the poor Glazers a bit less comfortable with their theivery.
1. ETH and the new crew are really quietly going about their business, and the press have no clue (outside FDJ)
2. ETH and the new crew are doing sweet f*ck all and we're once again going to do a transfer window wrong by not integrating players in pre-season
Given the fact that 7 first teamers have left the club - and these were oddly celebrated as a social media event - someone is aware we have a large hole in our playing squad. So I have, HAVE to assume it's the former option. Which would be amazing. It's in the boards interest, the manager's interest and of course our interest to have a really good summer. If they don't sort it out, the pressure is going to continue to mount in a way that at the very least makes the poor Glazers a bit less comfortable with their theivery.
We are a not a top club anymore.
Erik ten Hag finding it tough to sell the Manchester United project
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-sell-the-manchester-united-project-kzdctbtpw
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-sell-the-manchester-united-project-kzdctbtpw
This idea that you can do business involving multi million pound deals and keep it under the radar is fantasy. We might not brief the press, but surely any agent worth his salt, and also the selling club would let it be known that player X is available and in discussions. Why should they give a stuff about our transfer plans, end of the day they need to maximise the money they make from selling the player, and I struggle to think of a scenario where that could happen without a bit of noise to attract other suitors / facilitate negotiations.
There is little noise connecting us with other players, because were not involved, because our budget doesn't allow it. sometimes its the truth thats staring us in face that we done see.
Are you being sarcastic?
Are we hopeful for a great January transfer window?
I was concerned by the chat from ten Hag that the squad finished second not long ago and has potential. Not that I blame ten Hag at all - he's probably been fed this line. I'm more concerned now that after a 6th place finish, Man City, Liverpool and Spurs have all made impressive moves, meanwhile we have done nothing. We drag every transfer window out. I know there is plenty of time left to make moves, but this squad needs a lot of work, we need to act. Are we dithering as usual? Delaying other deals as we hold on to the hope of De Jong joining? He obviously doesn't want to leave Barca, this isn't good enough. Part of the problem may be that we have no Champions League to offer, if this is the case I hope it is a lesson to them. And what of outgoings? The only ones who are leaving aren't sales its out of contract etc. it may be understandable as all we have to offer is dross. It's frustrating and maybe I'm speaking too soon, be better judged at the end of the window.
Pretty clear that we're struggling to operate on a budget as our scouting strategy is in the stone age and we only know how to sign obvious, high profile targets who currently don't want to join our circus.
No value in January. We will get new players next summer.
What's clear is we're still incapable of negotiating several transfers at once. And those that say that our subsequent transfer dealings are dependent on whether we get FDJ over the line - well that itself is testament to incredibly poor planning. As it stands we're going into preseason with the same failure of a squad from last season, but with even more depleted with outgoings and no one coming in to reinforce it.
I hope our board aren't expecting ETH to be some miracle worker that'll transform the jokers from last season into a CL pedigree team.
I hope our board aren't expecting ETH to be some miracle worker that'll transform the jokers from last season into a CL pedigree team.
The glazer meddling in football affairs looks unchanged despite the structural changes everyone is raving about and the love in some have for Murtough. All I see is the same old shit. Chasing after pricey star players, failing to find value or unearthing class players off the radar. When’s the last time you can honestly say United made an intelligent signing? It’s been long. The most recent that comes to mind is chicharito, as he came on the cheap and had some success.
Nothing short of embarassing. What is going on at board level, surely Ten Haag was tapped up months ago, therefore we would have had a list of wants and not wanted. We havent shipped anyone really - only the released players have left and we havent brought anyone in?
We'll be at a bootsale soon near you - on our little table will be Aaron Wan Bissaka, Phil Jones, Eric Bailey and Antony Martial - pop along you might pick up a bargain...................................................
Bollox!!!!!!!
We'll be at a bootsale soon near you - on our little table will be Aaron Wan Bissaka, Phil Jones, Eric Bailey and Antony Martial - pop along you might pick up a bargain...................................................
Bollox!!!!!!!
They'll be running their contracts right down and leaving for free. A product of the stupidly high wages we have to offer nowadays to entice players to come to us during this period where we arent successful
wtf man!
What a bunch of horsesht. Can't wait for us to get back to the top and for the vultures in the media to go mad again in frenzy over our success.
Scenes next year when Rebuild FC miss out on Top 4 again and have to start paying fines to sponsors for missing consecutive CLs which will come out of the transfer budget.
What a fiesta. Odds on us bringing in Fellaini last day of the window?
I'm not usually to complain about lack of signings but given how poor a season we had, the improvements we need to make and the amount of players we've let go, you'd think we'd be the ones making early moves. But nope. Spurs, City and Liverpool have strengthened.
Is Matt Judge still there? Didn't ETH start a month early? Its genuinely difficult to comprehend how slow we move in the market it really is, this snail pace haggling and "monitoring" of players that are desperately needed for our "rebuild" needs to go its almost like its done on purpose for clicks or something.
Only explanation at this point is the backroom must still be full of businessmen it doesn't make sense. A football orientated setup would recognise the urgency involved, work out the maximum fee willing to be offered and then put in the offer. If it gets turned down at that point you move on to someone else, time is valuable and preseason and team cohesion is so important.
Really is meet the new boss same as the old boss at this point, these eejits genuinely start at 80% of their maximum and will go up 5% a time like its an Ebay sale yet still end up acquiescing above 100% weeks down the line anyway, its just so so tiresome.
Only explanation at this point is the backroom must still be full of businessmen it doesn't make sense. A football orientated setup would recognise the urgency involved, work out the maximum fee willing to be offered and then put in the offer. If it gets turned down at that point you move on to someone else, time is valuable and preseason and team cohesion is so important.
Really is meet the new boss same as the old boss at this point, these eejits genuinely start at 80% of their maximum and will go up 5% a time like its an Ebay sale yet still end up acquiescing above 100% weeks down the line anyway, its just so so tiresome.
If we become successful again they will find ways to belittle it. I still remember articles in the early 2000s claiming Ferguson simply got lucky with the class of 92 written by a proper turd Steven Howard, and Liverpool fans claiming we were shit when we reached 3 CL finals in 4 years while still winning multiple league titles. Contrast this to articles this season asking if Liverpool are the greatest club team ever
Day 5. Today nothing again. No sign of rescue. Had to eat dead fish that washed up on shore. Better luck tomorrow wilson.
I don’t expect we will get into top 4 next season to be honest. All I hope is that we will get more money ball type of signings this summer, to get play the way ETH is looking for. But it seems we are heading into wrong direction into transfer market so far, onto those unrealistic/fairly expensive targets who doesn’t want to join us.
I know current day Manchester United are an absolute joke
But for me how idle they’ve been so far this summer is a new low.
They need about 6 players, had their worst PL season ever, and aren’t anywhere near to 1 signing and are obviously going to go on tour with no signings
Absolutely crazy
But for me how idle they’ve been so far this summer is a new low.
They need about 6 players, had their worst PL season ever, and aren’t anywhere near to 1 signing and are obviously going to go on tour with no signings
Absolutely crazy
Worst season ever in the Premier League, we've still got a load of deadwood in the squad, United are the biggest joke in the league, and you'll still have fools thinking we've changed, saying don't panic, it's only the middle of June, etc etc.
Toys out of the pram alert. Hahahaha
We make plenty of signings every single summer. Why are people acting like we never do?
It's getting the right players that matters not just getting anyone in because you're like a 8 year old on Xmas Eve that can't wait to unwrap his presents.
Some players might not want to join us either. Have you considered that?
Was hoping not to have to wait until summer after for a great window. This is United though.
Guess we’ll see.
Found this depressingly funny:
Maguire being the sure thing is the chef's kiss to that joke.Found this depressingly funny:
There's a difference between signing loads of players last minute with no real plan for how or where they fit into the squad, and having a clear strategy and getting players intended to fit that, in good time for the start of pre season.
Pre season training for non internationals starts in 12 days and training with everyone back starts about a week after that. Pretty unlikely we will have more than one over the line before the 27th June
Pre season training for non internationals starts in 12 days and training with everyone back starts about a week after that. Pretty unlikely we will have more than one over the line before the 27th June
I don't know what relevance you think this has? Do you think this summer is the same as 'the others'? Given the myriad of really, really bad circumstances, do you think this is the time to be sitting on our hands and getting players in towards the end of the window, or perhaps some way into pre-season?
I get why posters such as yourself are trying to assuage others with what you presume is logical and reasonable thinking, but part of logical and reasonable thinking is assessing the whole, not just the parts that seem rational.
It's the 15th of June mate. The season doesn't start for another 7 weeks. For all you know we could be days away from signing 2-3 players. The press really don't have a clue.
And this De Jong lad is about to go on holiday for 3 weeks along with every other player involved in the Nations cup. He won't be training with us even if we get him signed up this week. Not until his holiday is done.
It’s the 15th of June; when does pre-season start? How long should it take for players coming from other countries take to settle, as well as their families? And what if we’re not a few days away from signing 2-3 players?
You didn’t answer what I asked you previously, could you?
Pre-season starts in 12 days. If we are going to compete this season we need players bedded in as quickly as possible to the new manager's training methods.
It's not like Ten Hag has suddenly been appointed last night.
We knew for some time and this just reaks of more of the same from our board of clowns.
It's not like Ten Hag has suddenly been appointed last night.
We knew for some time and this just reaks of more of the same from our board of clowns.
Exactly what would happen. We’d have a budget of about 30m net.
You have no idea what the club are doing. None us do and neither do most of these journalists.
We managed to sign Sancho Varane and Ronaldo with Ole in charge. LVG n Jose also got plenty of cash.
It's ridiculous the level of panic already amongst you all. I hate the Glazers with every fibre inside me but lack of signings isn't an issue. We've signed more players than I have had hot dinners. It's signing the right ones where we have failed not lack of incomings.
You’re not answering and repeating what was initially contested by citing precisely what I asked you why it had any relevance in the here and now under wholly different circumstances where time is actually of the essence.
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