That's completely fair, I just didn't want to be classed as "fanboi" or anything, I think he's motivated by personal accolades and not money.
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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Agree with the reason, the money isn't the reason but I'm sure he feels aggrieved by it. I think there's a bit in of a lack of self awareness a with him though. No well run club who can challenge is actually going to bring him in at this point. We'd do well to move on and free up the wages. At his age he just doesn't do enough to make up for the stuff he doesn't do.
I agree to an extent but we'll find out I guess.
Well known "sources close to Ronaldo", Joel and Avram Glazer?
Sure. Makes sense.
Frankly, just give him to these bagholder clubs for free, it will be better for United in the long run
I'd back whatever the manager wants to do but if he goes, I worry where our goals come from and who would replace him right now, I don't see the next great striker etc in the market
The team as a collective would replace him. We scored a lot more goals the season before he came.
What a circus, hopefully we are looking at alternatives and get rid as soon as we have one lined up.
He is burning bridges to force a move. Start fining him and get some leverage back. He doesn’t care about the money but for once the club cannot come across as weak.
That's true but we did have an obscene amount of penalties and played counter attacking football but that's a discussion for another thread anyway, hope you are right!
That's very interesting, surely that has to be a choice of the manager to play to Ronaldo as well?
I disagree a little bit tbh. I've been wondering this morning if his not being in the CL also affect any marketing deals and endorsements he has.
He has a choice but the choice to drop him is also faced with a lot of potential 'repercussions'
I've never blamed Ronaldo for wanting out. I just disagreed with the opinion of all players do not love their clubs. Some does some does not. You should follow the conversation.
And Del Piero was not young back then. He was 32 yo. It was actually the last year of his prime if my memory serves me right.
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No doubt
Another virus, get out.
There are many reasons for those stats and Ronaldo certainly isn’t the singular cause of it.
What about Madrid who had scored the least amount of goals in a decade immediately after he left in the following 2 seasons after his departure? Will we conveniently leave this out?
Or Juve even scoring less after his departure?
Surely it could actually be about the timing of it all and also then not showing up for pre season? Whether you believe he’s good enough or not is a totally different point. He’s thrown preseason prep (& not to mention planned signings/budgets) into absolute chaos with this selfish stunt.
You didn't say it but it does sound like you are implying that Ronaldo caused Mason, Rashford and Martial's downfall. Since lots of goals came from them and they stopped scoring for various reasons.
I'm guessing now Zidane will take over at PSG and Ronaldo will be his first signing
They most probably did.
So he's basically on strike to force a move. Like van Hooijdonk years ago, for those of us old enough to remember. Great professional.
Except Zidane isn't taking over PSG.
Surely something we can all agree on, whether you'd prefer Ronaldo to stay or go, is that his timing has been ridiculous? He could have easily communicated all this much earlier to the club and then we could've at least made CF a priority in the transfer window.
Instead he waits until 2 days before he's due back for pre season, and then doesn't turn up when he's supposed to aswell. I'm sorry but even if your pro Ronaldo surely you have to see how shit a thing that is to do when trying to prepare for a new season with a new manager.
It was just completely unnecessary.
Instead he waits until 2 days before he's due back for pre season, and then doesn't turn up when he's supposed to aswell. I'm sorry but even if your pro Ronaldo surely you have to see how shit a thing that is to do when trying to prepare for a new season with a new manager.
It was just completely unnecessary.
They've already appointed Galtier
Something doesn't add up, especially after he gave interviews stating he was looking forward to working with Ten Hag and winning trophies.
My guess, he either hoped a club would move for him earlier in the window and has now had to force the issue for the second summer in a row or Ten Hag has told him he is not in his plans as a regular starter.
Yeh I think the second part here is definitely a factor, Ronaldo still thinks he can start every game even though he just can't, and I'd say he didn't take kindly to being told that by EtH.
I think it could well be this. Would make sense then why he's not in training (if you don't believe the 'official reason'.
I don't really feel any ill will towards him if he wants to go. Just hope it gets done quickly and doesn't drag. Ultimately, I really believe Ten Hag's plan in the long run is easier if Ronaldo goes now.
All I’m saying is I doubt people would care as much if it was another squad player. Clearly the guy is very central to our plans for next season.
That’s a possibility, but I personally just think it was just lip service and his intention was always to leave the second we didn’t qualify for CL football.
Perfectly said.The Caf is so duplicitous
95% of fans were delighted when he arrived here.
Ole fecked up the transition from counter attacking to the high press / 4-3-3. Was sacked, and rightly so.
The board / Arnold hired a mediocre director of football from the Russian league as the manager. He proceeded to put together the worst coaching staff ever assembled at Man United. Poor pre match prep, awful training sessions, dressing room mayhem, an openly critical manager and abysmal tactics.
Ten Hag hired in, we continue to bumble through transfers, trying to pry a once promising talent from Barca, depth at LB, depth at CB without addressing DM and RB (IMHO our greatest needs, and don’t tell me Frenkie is a DM, he’s not).
He lost a child.
The guy is 37 years old, he has a very compelling argument as the GOAT, he wants to extend his records in the CL, and he probably has 2 years of top football left. You bring a player like this in, there is a responsibility by the club to assemble a squad and coaching staff that can legitimately challenge for trophies. We’ve failed miserably.
You could argue that this was his worst season as a footballer ever. Ronaldo is certainly a record chaser, he can be a complete ass, he’s arrogant and self centered. But he has given this club great moments of joy over the years. If he wants to leave to further his legacy, I have no problem with that.
We needed a centre forward anyway, but even with Ronaldo wanting out, it still feels like we won’t sign one.
As you said, we have signed depth at left back. Only de Jong, if it happens, would be considered a guaranteed starter. It’s a shambles, and Ronaldo leaving would underline it.
Whether you rate him as good or bad he is clearly (by a long way) the most high-profile player on the team. Does that even have to be said?
Still hope he stays to be honest.
There we so few joyful moments last year, and probably the Leeds battering aside, every other moment of joy was Ronaldo related.
However, if we can manage to improve overall if he does go, then of course that has to be the better option.
There we so few joyful moments last year, and probably the Leeds battering aside, every other moment of joy was Ronaldo related.
However, if we can manage to improve overall if he does go, then of course that has to be the better option.
Would be hard not to
You say that, but there's always a way down!Would be hard not to
I have full confidence in ETH personally, although this Ronaldo circus is really not at all what he needs as he's settling into the role.
It's much better to be blowing up now rather than a few months in I suppose.
If he does go, and this is very much not Ten Hag's decision he's got away with one I think, as it'd take a hell of a big personality manager to come into a huge club and kick out the biggest name!
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