They've been linked with Matheus Nunes today as a replacement for him. Frenkie could be an option. Think Jorginho has 1 year left on his deal.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I remember weeks ago people were joking De Jong would go on holiday and prolong an already tedious saga.
You seem like such a negative individual. I feel sorry for you.I get that, honestly. Even though I get dragged into debates that make me look negative. But I also want to talk about something without it being instantly dismissed simply because it doesn't fit the agenda of certain posters.
You questioned if I even support UnitedYou're acting like a child over this whole thing. I hope you're not just some kid at your first transfer rodeo actually as I'll feel pretty bad about calling you out.
I've said we need to wait and see if it's genuine. I just don't feel the need to try to surpress negative info. Are you Vladimir Putin by any chance?
I reckon United are playing this well, and not bowing down to Barcelona’s demands. United can afford to be patient in my opinion as Barcelona are the more desperate party here. The Chelsea link feels like a desperate play from Barcelona.
It’s not illegal if it’s renegotiated legally and Frenkie accepts it.
Look, I have no idea what's true and wrong, but when the first mention of us signing De Jong surfaced it came from Romero, and it took about 2 days before reputable journos in England confirmed. Maybe that's exactly the case here. Or maybe he's putting pressure on United under Barcelona's request.
Nope, just open and realistic. None of this bothers me mate, whoever we sign and whoever plays for us, I will support. It's actually a much better place to be than where you are right now. If FdJ wants to join us then it'll 100% happen this summer. We'll pay up, he'll eventually take a reduction in repayments. If not, then he obviously wasn't that bothered and I'm glad I lost no sleep over it.
It wouldn't take journos close to Chelsea to confirm the news if it was real. I imagine they'd get confirmation in minutes if they wanted too via their sources and you just know they'd all want to be the first to break it as an exclusive.
The fact no one has makes me think this is yet another ploy from Barca
The fact no one has makes me think this is yet another ploy from Barca
Chelsea's interest was first reported a week ago. This info hasn't really come out of nowhere.
Sterling? He is a guaranteed starter. We signed a back up LB and a good player in Eriksen who may just be rotating with Bruno.
Maybe so, but Romero seemed to just be backing up another source saying its confirmed, so if you want to play it like that, Romero wasn't even the first to have this info... someone else was (Revelo).
Only due to backpay.
He’s been on just 57 grand /week for 2020/21 and 114 grand /week for 2021/22. How is he repaid for this awesome gesture…. as only Barca know how.
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The last sentence in your post is exactly what's happening, we've seen a million times before in past transfer windows, it's the classic play.
Because CB and RB are badly needed compared to left back.
See what I mean... who the hell is Revelo??? Its all Barca BS if you ask me. Seems like no one but them is reporting this, but if they'd said the same about United, then it would be instant rubbish and a bad source
I've been feeling a lot like this in the last few days. Easy to get all jumped up about it, but it makes no difference.
The glazers will do what they do, we'll almost certainly be a long way off the ideal preparation, plenty of important changes will happen way too late, not at all, or one of the next three transfer windows. Sancho and Fernandes being the stand out multi transfer window negotiations as examples.
Can easily see all scenarios for de Jong, might change this summer, might be Jan, might be next summer! The biggest problem is how limited our focus is. There are a shite lot of players in the world surely we should be mixing up the plan, I.e. if not option 1 in position 1 then how about option 2 or 3 and we'll spend that money to get option 1 elsewhere. Or maybe for midfield you get two decent midfielders rather than 1.
Arguably getting de Jong alone isn't a great strategy. He can likely do things the rest of the squad can't so you end up needing a plan with de Jong and another without. He won't play every game and you have injuries to manage.
Rinsing him for too many games will cost you form eventually. Rashford and Bruno have both been overplayed and ultimately it's massively impacted their form. In the case of Rashford this may never recover given surgery impact.
The only thing we have over them is the dutch connection factor. Could be true he prefers them. IF chelsea are really interested that is.
It’s very doubtful we’re bought a starting player for any of the defensive positions though, looks extremely likely we’ve signed a cheap young talent to replace Telles.
Why wouldn’t that make sense?
By who? Twitter? I am following this pretty closely, through multiple outlets and I haven't seen anything credible linking Chelsea until this morning. Maybe random backpage tabloids, but nothing worth paying attention too. Romero and Romano are worth paying attention to. I know people hate on Romano now, but that gives him even more reason to make sure he is accurate when he puts something out, because that's what he's become, a purveyor of known information.
Good, like any United fan should.
I post my thoughts and opinions like anybody else on here. If you disagree with them then fine, that's your right.
That's the point of this forum.
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Well it’s obviously not the only thing.
Well if that's true and he's more interested in Chelsea then United, I fully expect a United brief today at some point. Of course there likely won't be
Chelsea , if you exclude the on loan Saul, have lost 3 squad players. Christensen, Rudiger and Lukaku. If you exclude Grant Utd have lost 5.
This is just a rubbish source
New TOTD podcast out. Hopefully, Laurie or Mitten have something to add.
It's not just up to them how they pay back the deferred wages. They've presumably made some kind of agreement already, and if the player won't budge from that, it's not as though Barcelona can just go, "Actually we're doing it like this instead." Presumably the players will have signed a legally binding agreement, otherwise they're complete idiots, and Barcelona can't deviate from that unless the players consent to it. At the end of the day, it's a lot like owing money to the bank: the debtor can't just decide on a different payment schedule.
I don't think it's enforcable. If you're owed wages, and you leave your job, you don't just cease being owed the wages.
They could give us the obligation as we're essentially buy out his contract and a premium to get him, but he is owed his contract, simple as really.
Yes but like I said, CB and RB is more urgent. Having Dalot/AWB on the right all season would be terrible and we're a Varane injury away from watching Lindelof/Maguire partnership again.
why exactly are we spiting Ourselves? Barca are obviously just a moronic club to deal with just tell Laporta to feck off and leave them in the lurch.
Plus De jong isn't worth all this nonsense. People banging on like he's the best midfielder in the world when he's not even the best at barca.
I've never heard of relevo... are they some Spanish super reliable source or the equivalent of the Sun/Star
Who? Relevo? They really aren't.
I also dont think FdJ will join us, but relevo are a new source who have poached many of the top Spanish journos
Jorgino does indeed only have one year left and many seem to think he will be gone in this window but there are other midfielders who almost certainly wont be in the first team squad next season such as Berkley, RLC and yes even Kantewho like Jorgingo is entering the last year of his deal
The negative shite sources keep getting posted and believed. Surely there should be some level of quality control.
Gallagher also.
more urgent for what? Signing a cheap young back up player?
This sounds like a completely nothing story. I'm sure any of the top 20 clubs will 'admire', 'follow', 'keep tabs on' all of the top 20-40 players in every position!
The article itself seems to spell out its not a priority position and it would be very strange to go big on a non priority position.
Bit like the Atlantic, and they aren't exactly 100% reliable. Funny how these sources haven't had any other info though. Who knows... let's see what the UK journos say
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