We'd be completely bolloxed by #1
We can't sell any of them.
Also an exchange plus cash rarely happens.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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We can't sell any of them.
Also an exchange plus cash rarely happens.
You jest, but I think he would start over McT and Fred.
Possibly over McTominay, but zero chance over Fred especially as a more advanced central mid. Winks is a tidy player, but nothing more. Fred is the superior player.
How the feck you going to sell that lot for 100m+? This won’t happen even in FM.
45 million is more realistic (excluding Martial, who no one will go near unless a rich club hires Bielsa)
It sounds a bit steep - but then again, I never expected anyone to offer £13m for Pereira. And for a club like Fulham or Nottingham - players like Martial, AWB, Williams, Jones or Bailly will improve their side a lot. If Nottingham spent £60 million on Martial, AWB, Bailly and Williams (assuming they lose Spence) - they would probably survive
Simples! Add new manager, choose PSG or Newcastle and done!
Maybe FDJ wanted a brief respite and faffing about in Thailand sounded lame.
More like, No one buying Jones can’t give away on a Free, Pereira £10M, Baily £12.5M, Telles £10M, Williams £7.5M - Max £40M plus no one is buying Martial currently and ETH probably will give him a chance at least. Ronaldo Max £15M Total £55M plus £120M equals Max Budget of £175M
Totally unrealistic, the club will sell 5 players at most and Phil Jones will still be at the club so with these 5 joining Mata, Henderson (loan)Matic, Lingard, Cavani and Pogba that’s 11 players from last season squad removed and that means we need to bring in 7 plus promote 3 or 4 from Youth.
Most likely Incomings now ;
New GK - Stakosha (Free)
New LB/LWB - T Malacia - (13M)
New CB/CDM - L Martinez (42M)
New CM/PM - Y Tielemans or SMS(40M)
New CM/PM - C Eriksen (Free)
New RW - Antony (58M)
New No 10 - P Dybala (Free)
New CFW - A Belotti D INGS or B Brobbey (Free/15/20M)
I think we will get any 6 from those 11 options and we’ll be back in the winter window to get others, It’s clear next year we are looking at an Elite CFw and CDM probably like P Shick and D Rice. FDJ maybe next year instead of Rice but not this year, I highly doubt that’s happening. I could see Danny Ings being ETH type player that’s a little left field and relative cheap plus he knows PL, works hard for the team. We will promote, A Garnaucho, Z Iqbal, J Garner and maybe A Tuanzebe so for me I see a squad more like this for the start of the season;
GK - D De Gea, *Strakosha, T Heaton (3)
Defenders - AWB, D Dalot, A Tuanzebe, V Lindelof, H Maguire, L Shaw, T Malacia, R Varane, *L Martinez, E Laird (10)
Midfield - Fred, Mctominay, J Garner, *C Eriksen, *SMS or Y Tielemans, Bruno, H Mejbri, DVB, Z Iqbal(9)
Strikers - Sancho, Martial, Rashford, A Ellanga, *B Brobbey or D Ings or A Belotti, *P Dyballa, *Antony, A Garnaucho (8)
26 man plus 4 youth promoted (H Mejbri, E Laird, A Garnaucho and Z IQbal) Certain players are going to suit ETH methods and may get an opportunity , Phil Jones has no chance as he’s always injured, Axel or E Baily could get another chance with ETH but only one of them will get maybe a 6 month opportunity to prove themselves, plus I can see Axel if fit playing as a utility CDM, Right Back, CB. The squad will heed to be this size because the last two times we’ve played Europa, the club played 64 and 61 games plus with the 5 sub rule and 9 named Subs you will need a squad of 26 plus 4 youth players switching between under 23’s and Full team to cover for increased injuries.
PL Team - D De Gea, D Dalot, R Varane, L Martinez or H Maguire, L Shaw, Fred or L Martinez, DVB or C Eriksen, SMS or B Martinez, J Sancho or Antony, Rashford, New CF or Martial, Rashford, Martial or J Sancho
Europa Team - Strakosha, AWB, V Lindelof, A Tuanzebe, T Malacia, Fred or J Garner, S Mctominay, DVB or SMS, A Garnaucho or J Sancho, Martial or Dyballa, M Rashford or A Ellanga. I can see us playing two different teams Thursday and Sunday every week.
C Savage, T Mehdi, F Pellistri, A Fernandez, A Dialo all loaned to championship and PL clubs. T Chong sold maybe £3m we might have up to £25M to buy a CFW? I hope I’m wrong with FDJ but dealing with Barcelona is a nightmare, I mean Bayern have the right idea asking for cash up front from them, maybe we promise them £77M guaranteed in instalments, EG £40M now, £20M next summer and £17M In 2024 , with the caveat if they go out of business we make final payment to FDJ, so if they go out of business next year Xmas and then we Pay the remaining £17M to FDJ as Barcelona owed him this anyway, we make the player love united, just saying this whole deals sounds way too complicated for a player that may be great in the PL and he might get 3 or 4 goals and 4 or 5 assists and then again he could flop completely in the cauldron of the PL.
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I mean, its a stupid tweet anyway.
Arsenal will lose Martinez not because they were less proactive, but because he wants to come to us instead. And they wrapped up Viera and Jesus which is more than our business thus far. This idea that we are more efficient in this window than them is bollocks.
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Being taken to the cleaners again. Ajax never sell players at that price. They just sold their top scorer for £35m yet we have to pay €50m for a CB?
Bit of a silly comparison. €50m is £42m.
Martinez is younger and their player of the season. There’s also a premium on CBs of his nature as they are harder to find.
It’s hardly much difference when you factor in Arsenal bid before us and were quoted the same.
Their topscorer is 28 years old and not wanted in the P.L after a disastreous spell at West Ham
Martinez is 24 and wanted by 2 clubs in the P.L
As for your other statements - Ajax sold 2 player for a lot more a few years ago - and regularly sell players for £30-35 million - you make it sound like Martinez cost a lot more than £35 million
Would return the like if I could!
Why are no lower prem team taking an interest in Bailly or Williams? They'd do well.
When ignorant people with zero competence or experience in a particular subject over simplify and water down other people's jobs, it's very easy to write it off as garbage.
If it's that easy, go and get a job running an elite football club. You'd collapse by lunch time in the first day.
Speculate, by all means but nobody here has an actual clue how these things work and happen.
It's so cringe when people think FM is so realistic that this is how actual people and businesses work.
Its always the stupid ones, who think they're the most capable, intelligent person in the room.
As usual, wages making them a costly proposition
50 million euros is enough imho. The guy should just hand in a transfer request.
Maybe all the Dutch links a lazy made up media bs?!
I think the dithering us because we didn’t offer 50m in guaranteed base figure. It was made up of a lot of add-ons
Hes their player of the season
Ahead of that top goalscorer you decided to mention.
I get the value, what I don’t get is a 5’7/8 CB in the PL he must be being bought as a CDM or Deep lying playmaker as his passing is exceptional I just can’t see this guy marking E Haland, H Kane, C Ronaldo(Chelsea) let that sink in , I Toney, P Bamford, Nuno, O Watkins, C Wilson, C Wood, J Vardy, R Jimenez, D Wellbeck, A Mitrovic, DCL, M Antonio, C Benteke, C Adams, D Solanki.
My point the PL has the most physical CFW’s around and more goals are scored in open play from headed goals this is without the added set piece problem of a Lewis Dunk/VVD, or other Huge CBs. I’m calling it now if he’s a CB he’ll fail, how do we know because D Blind was a better bigger version of him who got done for pace and strength at CB and had to play CDM or Left back in the PL and cost £15M plus Pep tried this and soon realised he needed fast, strong, ball playing 6’1-6’3 CBs to Win the PL !
Once again we are absolute idiots if we pay something like that. 50m euros for this guy is absolutely ridiculous.
€50M is too much!
*goes to Arsenal & becomes one of the best in the league*
why didn’t we pay €50M that’s a bargain! God this club is so fecking inept!
*goes to Arsenal & becomes one of the best in the league*
why didn’t we pay €50M that’s a bargain! God this club is so fecking inept!
Weren’t Blind and Donny also? I loved Blind but he cost peanuts? This guy is not much better than what we got back then.
Plus at least in the case of Bailly there are massive question marks about his injury record. Really like him as a player but for that reason he can't be relied upon
Or he becomes worse than any of our cb's
*our club are so dumb paying that much*
It can go either way
You do realise he’s played CL football and has bossed both Haaland and Nunes already? There’s analysis videos in this very thread if you bother to look.
Smalling bossed Harry Kane 99% of the time it did not make him a 50m defender.
Why use the comparison yourself then? Quite bizarre.
Whatever he does you’ve decided in your own mind he won’t be able to play in the PL.
I would argue that Smalling at his peak probably would have been worth €50m in today's market, as is Martinez.
I believe Martinez would make a very good CDM.. Not sure ETH will play him in midfield though.
ETH has already said Martinez does not make a good midfielder.
He already has, and that was in the Dutch league, didn't go brilliantly. He might play there in emergency situations, but I don't believe he can do it successfully in the PL.
And you an expert for modern day footballers fee? The club makes enough money to pay this why would it matter to anyone how much we pay for a player we want? It’s like we stealing for the kid piggy bank to fund these transfers
Pereira has already gone to Fulham for 10M
Agreed
Do you seriously have to ask that? Like, seriously?
Our only realistic incomings seems to be either Dutch or from Ajax. Most probably both.
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