Barca... mes que un ****
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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They've received about 650m in sales of tv rights, manufacturing and sponsorships.
Right the same player we saw on video saying he hopes Ten Hag would take him to United...
You're a senior member of the Court, though.
Do we know when Barca have agreed to pay this deferred wage payment? For example had we not been interested in FDJ at all this summer would they have gone into next year say still owing him the money?
If Brokeloana Wonga FC weren’t such unethical cheapskates, this one would be long over the line.
I 100% agree mate!
The deal is alive so no reason to close it. Yeah this thread is for the hardcore transfer muppets and transfer tweets for the people who only want quick updates.
They haven't. They have only got 200 odd million from selling 10% of TV rights.
They have approval of selling rights etc... but they haven't agreed deals with anyone for those. The 650m is what they want to raise.
Just TV rights at present I believe. 10% and 15% both from Sixth Street.
That's their own money.
According to Romero the second lever is activated so it would now be around €550-600 million.
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They do not 'owe' him anything in the traditional sense, they got him to sign a new contract during covid which reduced his wages for the 1st 2 years of the contract with the following 4 years showing a higher basic wage, i am guessing his argument would be i wouldnt have signed the deal if i knew you were going to sell me before i could recoup the reduced wages in the following years of my contract where the rest of the money is 'owed'.
It seems the UK press are saying one thing and the Spanish another. Who's playing them off against each other?
I mean ita clear that Sport talks crap and shouldn't be believed at all, but still.
The club have said themselves with regards the Eriksen signing:
"It's not just about getting players in, it's about getting the right players in"
Think Pep at Bayern "I only want Thiago"
Tielemans, Neves COULD be improvements on Fred and Mctominay but there is no guarantee they are the right players for the way we want to play going forward.
If you want a Messi but he won't come you don't sign an Andy Carroll.
You can't accept we were poor last season with no style of play or chemistry and criticise the current set up for only wanting the right players for the way we want to play going forward. Such knee jerk reaction is why we ended up in this mess in the first place.
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The problem then is they know exactly what we have to spend and will want more on top because they'll be down a player without being able to adequately replace them. You can throw at least another 10m or more onto each of those players prices if its left late in the window.
Ideally they want his wages off the books, but there's very little they can do other than demote him to the bench.
A club should never buy a player that doesn't want to be here which is why I've argued it throughout this thread.
If it happens its because some agreement has been arranged and still FDJ is reluctant to leave. I don't for a second believe he wants to be here still.
So what's the chances they give de Jong what he's asking for and tell him they now require him to move on?
They likely could keep him if they wanted too, but if they're after Silva as reported, there is no way he's staying (unless as stated de Jong refuses and makes Barca honour his current contract)
We don't have definite proof that is the case.
What happened to the sortida thing?
Don't know really. I personally think this won't impact the deal though.
Mainly because I think Barca knew this second deal was imminent and if they planned on paying him using the money from it you'd think he might not have gone on tour.
Two "levers" have been used thus far.
The first raised about 200 or more and this weeks one is about 320m approx.
I'm off on the original figure as I forgot the 1st lever amount but still, they've received a considerable investment this month.
Not sure what this means, you'll have to elaborate.
Sounds like something that in best case scenario would result in a tough legal battle. I guess the other option here is for us to add his deferred wages to his contract here but we'd virtually be adding the odd 15m to the fee.
I feel the workload of the server in displaying all these updates is contributing the heat wave.
Barcelona sells TV rights 25% 10 years ahead was it?
So they need to be frugal going forward cause you will have less money coming in and will probably lose money since TV rights will be worth more in 2-10 years.
Ok fair enough you do it to survive BUT THEN to go and splash the cash at once on shiny new toys is just beyond stupid, i simply cannot fathom it!
Creative accounting at its best.
So they need to be frugal going forward cause you will have less money coming in and will probably lose money since TV rights will be worth more in 2-10 years.
Ok fair enough you do it to survive BUT THEN to go and splash the cash at once on shiny new toys is just beyond stupid, i simply cannot fathom it!
Creative accounting at its best.
That's what I said. First for 10% and now the second for 15% both from Sixth Street.
And as we say, if that was the case, de Jong would have told ten Hag exactly how it was - he doesn't want to leave, has no intention of joining and he's wasting his time.
That's not happened and we're still in for him meaning Ten Hag has his assurances, or what he considers reasonable ground for staying and pushing for the player
Exactly, anything else is guesswork or hearsay. Especially from posters on here.
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good spoof and a let's all laugh at United on twitter gag
I admit a lot of what I say is guesswork or opinion. I don't know the ins and outs of the transfer, but I'm pretty certain that what is being fed to the media is nothing like what's being said behind closed doors.
This is the sticking point. If there's nothing in his contract that states this he's really in the gutter. Probably needs to fire his agent as well.
Fekin levers.
Exactly and like most clubs, there will be one or two players at Ajax glad to see the back of ETH.
The worrying thing for us is that ETH has apparently read Timber all wrong! Maybe he has with FDJ? If that is the case Erik should take Denis Healy's advice "when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging".
I speaking in terms of how the poster worded it.
Meaning if he doesn't.
Personally I'm very much leaning towards the lad flat out doesn't want to leave Barca.
If he does leave, it'll be him leaving a club unhappy and us getting a player not focused... eg Di Maria.
Yes, two separate amounts.
They've received a fair chunk of wonga in recent weeks to assist in the short term at least.
That wasn't aimed at you, more people who claim definitively that he doesn't want to be here despite knowing feck all. The same people who post "walk away" etc.
I know you are pretty rational.
Said it before.
Like pissing themselves to keep themselves warm.
Sooner or later they'll have to come to terms with the fact they're sitting in a puddle of cold piss.
Maybe Timber really wanted to come and was very open to the idea, but after van Gaal warned him that his world Cup place was in jeopardy if he didn't play week in and week out, he would be dropped.
Maybe he looked at who we already had and didn't see much opportunity to be a regular starter so decided against the idea. I really don't know but by all accounts he was very open to coming
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