Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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He would be an absolute mug to take those new conditions with Barcelona, and they look terrible for forcing him into this position, whilst also making lots of new signings. Utter dickweeds.
He should take it as a huge compliment that we're basically making him our number one priority for the Summer window. His situation at Barcelona is untenable. They're not suddenly going to increase his contract in the future and may even force him to reduce it again the next Summer. The deal and situation that he thought he had at Barcelona is over, it's all changed.
I'm gonna try it on my wife a bit later"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"
I have no idea how this will turn out but it seems like everyone is losing their shit over 2 sentences in the Atlantic article that are nothing more than the author's opinion of what FDJ thinks.
"Viewed from the Barcelona dressing room, a move to Manchester United is not that attractive, even if United were to agree to meet all the financial commitments in De Jong’s Barca contract."
"There has been plenty of turbulence at Old Trafford in recent years and especially this summer — De Jong is likely to share Cristiano Ronaldo’s view on playing in the Europa League this season, with no guarantee of a return to the Champions League any time soon."
Is this supposed to be deep insight? To me it's just more speculative bullshit.
"Viewed from the Barcelona dressing room, a move to Manchester United is not that attractive, even if United were to agree to meet all the financial commitments in De Jong’s Barca contract."
"There has been plenty of turbulence at Old Trafford in recent years and especially this summer — De Jong is likely to share Cristiano Ronaldo’s view on playing in the Europa League this season, with no guarantee of a return to the Champions League any time soon."
Is this supposed to be deep insight? To me it's just more speculative bullshit.
You forgot Pereira! We're without Pereira!
Edit: I forgot Mata! How could I forget Mata!?!
Yup, that's a briefing!
Aaah so Chelsea are guaranteed CL football then are they? Assuming they're actually in for him and it's not journalistic BS
We are light on attackers for sure but we needed a smaller squad anyway. IMO if we sign anyone in midfield, we should then sell someone (and loan Garner out). Numbers wise it's fine, you have Bruno, Eriksen, Fred, McTominay, Donny, Garner, Hannibal, zidane, etc. You always want a slot for a few apps to young talents, and Garner can definitely get more game time. If we sign Frenkie, then Garner has to be loaned and Donny has to go IMO.
Attackers I would say is our big need as we don't even have the base numbers there, but Frenkie is key for starting 11 quality and system.
Debut v scousers then hahaThis will be wrapped up by our opening fixture.
I implore you to think very carefully about that.
When I say it is in in common usage in Scotland/Ireland, I meant among groups of men. ie no 'hole-havers' being present.
I think its a good system personally its what a modern forum needs in the age of social media - its not meant to dictate your knowledge or at least i haven't felt that way its just an indication that your account is on trial to gradually see if you will be a good fit.
The only annoyance is the first few likes before having your post auto approved really, the forum can move so fast that it can discourage participation as your post could be a page behind by the time it does, which may even be the intention as far as i know i mean the newbies exist for a reason right. That place is actually a good way to get the likes too, the scouts funnily enough, tend to be "scouting" that place.
Most definitely a briefing in Spain
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Damn this thread is educationalI implore you to think very carefully about that.
When I say it is in in common usage in Scotland/Ireland, I meant among groups of men. ie no 'hole-havers' being present.
Oh what a night.
Is this still on?
I don’t understand how you can not have a differing opinion on our signings and now the club is run without getting stick, but you can absolute rip into the players in a match day thread and it’s deemed ok?
I want this club turned around more than anyone. We have a great manager I believe in place but we are still massively short!
I want this club turned around more than anyone. We have a great manager I believe in place but we are still massively short!
You bet it is.
There will be Frenkie de Jong transfer thread historians in the future.
Tik Tak. Tik Tak.
This. This is the only way.
Well because it is not true. The reason they are insisting on a pay cut or departure is because they cannot register their new signings to play in La Liga with his salary on the books. They are hardly going to not register Lewa and Raphina and so if push comes to shove they won't register Frenkie so yes he will be left out of the team.
fecking sky is now putting YouTubers on their channel? What an absolute shitshow of a media organisation
Youtube is a legitimate source of media. Get with the times.
Oh, without a doubt. Especially with one another. Just last week I saw a Rangers fan and Celtic fan loving one another in the middle of street. Lots of rolling around and neck cuddling going on...
No need a counter article. That article in the athletic is complete BS. "Even if united pays frenkie's dues with barca, he would still not be keen on joining them". We are talking about 17 fecking million euros here and not 17 thousands. Who in stable mind will say I don't care about my 17m, I just want CL. If that was so then why all this saga between him and barca? Let go those millions and stay happily there, no?
Totall BS article.
Barca is feeling the pressure, non of the new signings can be registered before he leaves.
Kin ell.
just found someone who needs this more than even berbaclass.
stay the course fellow muppet. It’s going to feel so good when it happens.
I care about his opinion as much as I do everyone on the CAF
I wasn't even listening to what he said. He just sounds so boring and dull. How he got a job presenting I'll never know. Goldbridge is Mates FCI care about his opinion as much as I do everyone on the CAF
united stand has 1.4 million subscribers, it’s Very popular. I like fan channels and I like the fact fans have a say over some reporter who doesn’t even support the club. Beats ABU media like talk sport spouting shite about us constantly.
"We've signed 4 players, spending over 100 million and we're not done but you need to take a pay cut".
He should Bogarde them.
He should Bogarde them.
Goldbridge's negativity has finally rubbed off
It makes sense if he loves the club so much. I'm not saying he does, I think that's a bit of nonsense. He probably just prefers to stay there.
But if he really does love the club and really wants to stay, it's completely possible for him to. He'll still come out a ridiculously rich man.
I'm not saying its a no lose situation but its nothing like a bloke dropping from 30k to 20k for the love of his office.
Will there be a huge difference? What will be different?
He's already incredibly rich, a multi millionaire. On the new deal he'll earn an obscene sum. He'll earn more millions after Barcelona. If he invests wisely those millions will earn him more millions whilst barely doing anything in retirement.
So how will that extra £20 million really make a difference to his life.
You're thinking as a guy who earns regular money and is considering dropping his salary by 10k to keep a job.
I'm not saying he should take the new deal by the way. Totally upto him isn't it.
But if he leaves he likely won't get the deferred wages and he maybe should think himself slightly lucky to get such a ridiculous wage in the first place.
If he really wants to stay he should. As you say, life/career can be short. Considering that I find it crazy to let money control your decisions when you've already got more money than any rational human can spend.
Barca has given ultimatum to Frenkie and his agent now has to make moves. That athletic article is a paid hit job by his agent to put pressure on united before negotiation on personal terms begin between him and united.
Pretty much living the dream and he looks and sounds like that
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