He pretty much has his own show now.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Nah. One of those is definitely true, but both can be true.
Well of course they can't make him sign for us, they can only pressurize him to leave while the best they can get is still available.
As I said, unless we walk away or it's the last days nearing their deadline it would be stupid of them to offer him around for lower fees
this is truly the mother of all sagas, it's got everything.Absolutely. In fairness they've signed some stonking players. Although Lewa at nearly 34 is one injury from disaster.
If he takes a 50% pay cut in addition to the €17m he already “gave up” then he deserves what he gets. If he is earning €20m a year and takes a pay cut then Barca will have saved €57m over the next 4 years.
He has been doing a transfer round-up phone-in show last couple of weeks.
Some clips:
https://www.youtube.com/c/talkSPORT/search?query=goldbridge
It's a bit sad that all this is happening and he's really not seen as central to it. I wonder whether he could actually become a brilliant centre back for Barca and how they play.
Might make a difference to the player but my comments were in response to whether they would leave him out of the team and as of right now they would have no choice unless they want to sit their new signings in the stands. Of course they can pull off some financial chicanery between now and then but time is running out and surely the player is not so lacking in ambition that he is going to be happy to be paid to not play, not at such an early stage of his career when he has achieved relatively little.
and Barcelona won't freeze him out of the squad.
Why are posters coming in telling others it is over and we should let it go?
What's that famous saying? It ain't over until the fat lady si- I mean fat Laporta signs the agreement to pay his deferred wages
What's that famous saying? It ain't over until the fat lady si- I mean fat Laporta signs the agreement to pay his deferred wages
He’d be a right dopey twerp giving in to these ridiculous demands.
He can just honour his contract though, don’t know who Barca think they are. Taking them to court for his owed 17m would be funny whilst still being employed by them.
He can just honour his contract though, don’t know who Barca think they are. Taking them to court for his owed 17m would be funny whilst still being employed by them.
Yeah they are the ones I’ve heard.
What ultimatum?
Frenkie doesn't have to do shit.
"Either take a pay cut, or leave."
Oh ok. How about option 3, I don't take a pay cut and I don't leave?
For our sake I hope he does, but still.
Frenkie doesn't have to do shit.
"Either take a pay cut, or leave."
Oh ok. How about option 3, I don't take a pay cut and I don't leave?
For our sake I hope he does, but still.
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Pretty likely he goes to Chelsea then if he continues to refuse a pay cut?
Standing by when you get up to R.
Why is that?
I didn't see this as an option. Xavi did not present it as an optionWhat ultimatum?
Frenkie doesn't have to do shit.
"Either take a pay cut, or leave."
Oh ok. How about option 3, I don't take a pay cut and I don't leave?
For our sake I hope he does, but still.
When does their tour end?
It ain't over til it's over, great song that
Yeah but barca failing to realise that he doesn't have to go anywhere
Hole? Surely, my good man, you meant to write "holes", or you're simply not doing it right.
Sold against his will, alright
But not registering him whilst registering others, with him on his old contract, would be insane, even by their standards. That's adding debt to debt with zero financial restbite or alleviation mechanism (sale price); Barcelona wouldn't do that... would they (who knows by now!)?
From FDJ's point of view, it's a few months, not a career, with the World Cup being a unique carrot and opportunity to maintain his mental fortitude. For him, the means would justify the ends because that contract is a fortune, an absolutely crippling one to Barcelona.
In a strategical game of cat and mouse, he holds all the cards, it seems.
Cause he wants CL football?
He tell you that?
Sun against NY Red Bulls
Meh. I doubt that is a deal breaker.
Barca are such a twat of a club. If that's true above then no way he can stay if he had any self respect. Informing him he has to fall in line with wage structure when he already done them a favour. Then barca signing loads of players. Cheeky bastards...what a horrible club.
Just going off reports pal. It has been said so many times. It would be foolish to think Chelsea have no chance if reports are true that they are interested. I hope they aren't cause I feel we'd lose that race atm.
Reaching end game now, final brief from Barcelona to try forcing him into a paycut.
Reckon they might even start him CM tonight as final throw of the dice.
Still don’t believe they have offered him chance to leave, been holding out as long as possible hoping he’ll sign.
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It's doable but it's risky, you need to perfectly know your crowd and said crowd needs to have lost faith in your sense.
It's doable but it's risky, you need to perfectly know your crowd and said crowd needs to have lost faith in your sense.
He has no choice, until FdJ leaves he is part of the club's plans because unlike the new signings he is definitely registrable.
It looks like Spain's version of the PFA is looking into Frenkie de Jong's situation and can possibly offer some statements of their own in response to Barcelona's situation. Whether they have the power or willingness to do anything remains to be seen.
I agree but what is the solution then?
Today Barca are saying take a pay cut or you must leave. If he says I pick option 3, no pay cut and I stay here they will turn up the heat and the next thing will be Barca briefing their pet media that Frenkie is a greedy foreigner who does not love the club and is destroying Barca by not allowing them to register their new signings. Barcelona may not be such a nice place to live when the whole community essentially turns against you and you have to worry about the Barca ultras targeting you if you go out in public. When Barca want someone gone they have a track record of going as low as it takes to make it happen.
Barcelona think that if they keep telling FDJ that he only has 2 options he'll somehow wake up one day forgetting that he has a third.
And the following season?
I get what you're saying, but CL football does have a say in players decisions. Or are you saying it doesn't at all?
Yes! Atrocious behaviour by Barca and they surely know he simply does not have to move if he doesn’t want to. They have to make it worth his while.
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