Anything over €40m and you are overpaying. We already overpaid for Martinez.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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We were never getting him for that fee
40 million euros would get you Jack Harrison, Antony is a full Brazil International and worth about 60 million quid.
No he is not!
Fred is a full international as well
He cost us £50m from the Ukrainian league
Why is he so expensive though?
Or rather, how could Bayern get Gravenberch so cheap while we have to pay an arm and a leg for any Ajax player? Was his contract expiring, or... what?
People really do think it’s FM where you can backload contracts with millions in goal bonuses that will never be realised.
You aren’t getting Martinez for less than what we paid, & you certainly aren’t getting an Antony for €40million. He may well not prove worth the money spent [we’ve got a few of those here already] but at the point of purchase you can’t say you overpaid when you weren’t getting him for less. Give him a season at least.
He had a year left with no intention of a renewal & only wanted to go to Bayern. Equating transfers is futile.
Think it was but you have seen with many deals most recently the Mane one they are masters of negotiating a fair price
Is he the Brazilian Robben?
So a full Brazilian international means anyone has to pay at least €60m for him? Do you think anyone would offer €60m for Fred? At least Raphinha proved himself a hit in the premier league.
I would go for Podence or Neto at Wolves before this poser!
Could become one, but his shooting is not near as precise and consistent though. Don't get me wrong, his shooting is fine and very good at times, but Robben would just precisely curl them into the far corner time after time. Antony isn't there yet with his shooting. I do think he has the potential though. His shooting technique is there, his crosses are very dangerous, he's fast and he has the dribbles. He has more skills than Robben as well, but Robben didn't really need crazy skills to be very effective.
At least Antony proved himself in the Champions League. Antony is 3 yrs younger than Raphinha and has nearly the same record for the Brazil NT. If anything Antony > Raphinha.
You mean to say, one club plans and targets ahead - the other is always paying into a seller market. Got it.
Settle down tiger
Yeh. Robben is just a freak, shooting wise. And he's also super fast.
I don't see that Antony can be as fast as Robben. But it's good to know he has potential to match Robben for his shooting. That skill alone worth gold.
Precisely - and what's more we could have used either of those players - a central midfielder and a right back for 18 million Euros fck me.
Playing 11 games and scoring 3 goals isn’t proving yourself. This is the opposition who he has played against.
IMO it's the budget and the talk of "Frenkie or bust" when it comes to midfield. Like if we get Frenkie then I don't see us meeting Ajax's ridiculous asking price, but if we miss on Frenkie then we'll reach for Antony to salvage the window, essentially. I think we can easily pass 120m but I don't think passing 200m spend is doable
I agree with you... But I wouldn't say raphina has "proved himself" in the epl... Well hasn't proved to be a 60 million euro player especially if you're just looking at stats like u just did with AntonyPlaying 11 games and scoring 3 goals isn’t proving yourself. This is the opposition who he has played against.
My biggest frustration would be not getting ETHs first choice signings. If we're getting Antony after all then that's terrific and I'm excited to see how he can develop at United.
Make sense. Ajax just lost their main striker, CM, CB, RB, and on top of that, their manager. They'll be very reluctant to sell another key player, unless the offer is too good to refuse; which is how that ridiculous 80m valuation coming from.
Only time will tell if we overpaid. He might become bedrock of team and lead team to successful trophies.
I think they were happy to sell Haller, which opens up the possibility of giving Brobbey more game time.
Mazraoui and Gravenberch had either run their contract down (Mazraoui) or were coming into the last year of their contract in Gravenberch's case. And Bayern took advantage because they're a club with a defined play style and a strategy, which both players were a potential fit for. And they had been working on those deals a long time before ten Hag was even appointed United head coach. I think Solskjaer was still manager when Bayern were working on those two deals from what I've read.
I remember reading a article from Mike Verweij in May, where he said that Ajax wouldn't sell Antony for less than €70m/€80m. I think if the price was lower, we'd have signed him by now.
The only departure they didn't account for thus far, is the departure of Martinez.
Antony and De Jong will be an awesome window. We addressed all our issues except RB. Martial has come inform for ST position, long may it continue.
Anthony and Sancho would be 2 great wingers for United.
Throw in FDJ and United have width that will hurt teams with switches of play. Then United just need the full backs to underlap and I think United will be frightening, which is why I think a RB is an essential piece.
Ronaldo will get 30+ goals if he stays next season.
Throw in FDJ and United have width that will hurt teams with switches of play. Then United just need the full backs to underlap and I think United will be frightening, which is why I think a RB is an essential piece.
Ronaldo will get 30+ goals if he stays next season.
Yep, and with that they set a feck off price that ended up being met. Can't see us meeting 2 feck off valuations from the same club tbh
No I didn't.
But if you want to use that angle, then one club had its manager already in the club and were able to plan ahead, and the other had to wait for its new manager to sign on and look at targets.
He reminds me of Salah in those Shakhtar highlights.
He has intriguing skills but you really have to wonder about the relatively weak end product in a team that scores for fun against generally poor domestic competition.
Players like Neres, Ziyech, and Promes all produced more in recent years in terms of g+a per 90 than Antony has at Ajax.
Players like Neres, Ziyech, and Promes all produced more in recent years in terms of g+a per 90 than Antony has at Ajax.
That's what's annoying about the rumours that it's Cristiano or Antony. Adding a winger who doesn't score much but creates well makes a ton more sense if we have a poacher who has scored the most headed goals in Europe over the last decade or whatever the stat is.
If Cristiano leaves, I'm not sure paying a ton for Antony makes sense unless we're bringing in a lethal, probably selfish, goal scorer rather than looking for a more balanced attack.
yeah thought he was really poor yesterday
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Ajax fights to keep Antony. The Brazilian wants to crown his good last season with a dream transfer, but Ajax finds that undesirable and sees no need to sell another player. At the same time, there is the realization that every Ajax player is for sale. The initial quoted price of 80 million euros has already been increased to 100 million euros – including bonuses. It is clear that this issue will remain unsettled until September 1
Why would they sell him for 40m? That would be a steal. Worth at least 60…
100%, We need to try and keep Ronaldo and add Antony aswell… Antony and sancho creating for Ronaldo will = in him getting 30+ goals this season.
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