I'm still utterly convinced that we'll get him. The doomers give me strength
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I think it's because the horror of Fred/McTominay potentially featuring heavily next season triggers PTSD.
But that's not actually what Ten Hag said. He said if you can't find the "right kind of player" on the market, you'll develop one. And that De Jong is this kind of player. Not that he's necessarily the only one of this kind to be found on the market.
I think it would be very foolish not to add a quality midfielder even in the, immensely unlikely, case that you can't get De Jong. And I'm pretty certain Man United will buy another midfielder this window.
Zidane has the edge with his nimble footedness. Garner has some interesting attributes but I dont think he's technically good controller of the ball in tight spaces.
Every good/great centre midfielder now has to be adapt 1v1 or capable of dealing with the press, I dont think Garner has that technical individual ability Zidane has in that area/field.
You need to check this out for yourself mate. I am not here to spend the time naming all the players that have refused to join us in last 4/5 years. Our club has been going downhill since Fergie left.
Definitely exciting. Both Iqbal and Garner are really exciting prospects and coupled with TH's ability to coach younger players I'd absolutely love one, or both of them to smash into our starting 11, we're overdue a new homegrown star!I’d like it for the giggles but I’d also be excited to see how the development of such players could turn out
I agree. I've literally not seen anything reputable that makes me think otherwise. People will say the Athletic article, but no, that seems more of an opinion piece than anything else
We will see soon enough. I don’t see us bringing in another midfielder. He will have been impressed by our kids on tour and no better man to develop young kids. This is not a short-term gig. It doesn’t matter if he wins nothing next year. This is about getting it right, progression in all areas. Buying players for the sake of it is what we tried before
Sorry in the flood of comments like that I didn't pick it up. :/
I've never been more confident about a transfer ever.
He had the tools, Ten Hag is a good coach but he isn't some miracle worker.
You'll see it when those players go on loan or don't get a lot of minutes next season. Actually, the only player Ten Hag gave some hints he's gonna use in that role is Fred and we've been watching him for 4 years to know he isn't good enough for that.
Yeah that’s definitely an advantage, whereas garner is more a carrick type, passing rather than carrying
Agree.
Absolutely. And one which wasn't backed up by any of their 'top' United journalists
Kids from the academy almost never turn out good enough to break into the first 11 of a top club. It's just simple maths. It's maybe one player every 3-4 years. Of course a top club needs to buy.
That's the spirit . Bravo
I'm more confident about this one than the Martinez one
Yeah think it's wildly optimistic to expect an academy kid to solve our midfield
I agree, we will bring in another midfielder.
God no, he’s our pied piper
Well we are due our turn again then
If they don't get Frenkie sold before their first game all hell will break loose with Lewandowski, Raphinha, Kounde and the rest fuming in the stands.
If we thought the bullying was bad right now, my oh my. I believe we'll see worse and worse briefs from Barca for every passing day until Frenkie buckles and accepts a compromise.
It's great if it happens, but it would be negligence to rely on it, I think. Garner has a shot at midfield, sure, but the other kids are complete question marks considering the level they played at so far
He's our muppet master, he IS the thread!
I understand this from ETH comments, but I hope this is not true because it would be a massive mistake.
Why? If we publicly end chase for FDJ, clubs will just raise prices for midfielders we're looking at.
Maybe, maybe not. But you can't plan it. And certainly Zidane and Savage will not be ready in time. Ten Hag isn't foolish enough, and also wants to win too strongly, to believe that he has THAT kind of time.
I think Carrick was still capable of beating a player in 1v1 situation though. Wasn't as often but he was capable of it, as was Scholes.
I agree that Garner game would carry more emphases on his passing strengths compared to Zidane but the laters ability to beat a player from a standing position or technically capable of weaving away from player's in this day and age is more advantageous I feel.
The Anthony deal accelerating is a clear indication that this deal is dead.
Yes, signing a RW means the search for CM is over
It's about the budget.
Different position. Absolutely not related to the de Jong deal at all. Plus there's nothing saying we'll get Antony other than Ajax saying never say never
By "accelerating" you mean Ajax leaking to their journos that they don't want to sell any more talent so the price tag on Antony is now 100m euros?
Yep but when we pull the plug (or when FdJ decides to take half his existing money from Barca to sit on their bench) I think the club will leak it to the usual suspects.
By "accelerating" you mean Ajax leaking to their journos that they don't want to sell any more talent so the price tag on Antony is now 100m euros?
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