If I'm not mistaken they have the same wage but we would pay for Ter Stegen, so Barcelona may not save money on wage but they would make some cash.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I'm convinced, lets get the two for one deal done. De Gea and cash for De Jong and Ter Stegen. Double worded last names galore!
I fully agree with the fact the muppets in this thread are going to be massively disappointed as he will not join United, I'm not disputing that fact at all.
I ain't throwing in no towel. Muppetdom awaits
I didn't mean for you
Sorry but I think you’re being deliberately obtuse here. Ter Stegen is one of the best in the world. They obviously aren’t going to sell him but are briefing this to put pressure on De Jong and influence the fan base.
The E45 is a marvellous touch
Barca reassuring the players their jobs are safe.
Oops! Thought it was Frankly too Long. My bad
maybe a more clear indication a certain forward is leaving
Yes.
But the bolded bit is just a speculative, unfounded conclusion, and a needlessly negative one at that.
My confidence is sky high. In the bag.
I feel like I am back in 2010.
Just sign a fecking midfielder
Just sign a fecking midfielder
If true about Ter Stegen, how much do you think they will look for, as remember the guy has a current buy out clause for 500 million in his contract and with all the top teams in Europe already having a #1 they are happy with and the guy under contract till 2025, he can also refuse to leave and there's nothing Barca can do.
Tbh I meant in relation to the transfer fee he would command. I wouldn’t expect it to be anywhere near FDJ price.
But yeah I’d love ter Stegen. He would suit ETH style more than de gea
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I dont understand why people have so much confidence in this.
Almost every journalist, Spanish or English in the last week or 2 has reported he does NOT want to come to Manutd.
He has 2 options now.
Stay at Barca on his current wage - he has a contract and they have to keep him
Stay at Barca on lower salary - He has done this before.
United is simply not an option. If Barca pay him off, his salary will be in line with others.
Almost every journalist, Spanish or English in the last week or 2 has reported he does NOT want to come to Manutd.
He has 2 options now.
Stay at Barca on his current wage - he has a contract and they have to keep him
Stay at Barca on lower salary - He has done this before.
United is simply not an option. If Barca pay him off, his salary will be in line with others.
A week ago I gave up on this. Come back to see the state of the thread. One week and 200 pages later and we're still in the same position ffs.
I hope we walked away weeks ago.
Tell Barca to feck off, and when they come running back at the end of the transfer window, tell them to feck off again.
The club needs to retain some dignity and selling clubs in future need to know we won't just cave in to demands; specifically in this case where Barca is in the shit - yet somehow - thinks they hold the cards.
Tell Barca to feck off, and when they come running back at the end of the transfer window, tell them to feck off again.
The club needs to retain some dignity and selling clubs in future need to know we won't just cave in to demands; specifically in this case where Barca is in the shit - yet somehow - thinks they hold the cards.
This is the content I come here for
Now they are putting out they‘ll have to sell Ter Stegen to put pressure on Frenkie, the unbelievable goatfecking cnuts.
I must formally request the Muppet Masters to ban sport and managing@barça, among others.
Why are we allowing this bs to be posted here? It‘s not journalism, but propoganda.
I must formally request the Muppet Masters to ban sport and managing@barça, among others.
Why are we allowing this bs to be posted here? It‘s not journalism, but propoganda.
Agreed, sport is completely a waste of time.
Outstanding
There could be many reasons for him to move, like a I doesn’t think he is good enough for the starting xi. However you read everywhere that he would choose United because of ETH, but that is just an assumption and there might be other factors that are far more important.
No close journalist to Utd has said he DOES NOT want to come. It's only originating from Spain. Telegraaf who are as reliable as they come with Dutch Players/News have doubled down on what's being said in England including the wage issue
Him staying on his current wages means Barca can't register signings which will undoubtedly cause friction
He's never taken a wage cut but a wage deferral big difference. Asking him to half his wages AND waiver the deferred salary is a massive financial commitment he's not guaranteed to accept
You simply can't conclude Utd are chasing blind alleys for a player who wants NOTHING to do with them as you're suggesting he's lying and blindsiding Ten Hag for God knows what reason or he's flat out said no but we're chasing him anyway which isn't practical at all
What demands have we caved to?
We've not caved to anything? We've come to an agreement on a price that we are happy to pay. It's up to Barca and FDJ to sort out their issues.
I think you're just frustrated more than anything. Just don't read everything online.
Agreed, People here keep saying we didn't brief that we're no longer interested like we usually do. If it's true that we were chasing a player all summer that doesn't even want to come I doubt we'd brief we're no longer interested, we'd look like right fools.
It's much more believable that we just leave it till the end of the window and say Barcelona and FDJ couldn't work out their wage issues.
I just hope we plan to sign a midfielder.
Not just in this transfer, specifically; but we always pay way over the top, and sell for way less than player value.
Obviously media speculation, and likely bull shit, (as is everything nowadays), but Barca were pining for us to increase our offer - despite them being on their arses.
Who is the player he keeps passing it to who is doing instant first time progressive passes between the lines? He looks brilliant.
We did last weekI feel like I am back in 2010.
Just sign a fecking midfielder
Who is close journalist to Manutd? Fabrizio has always said he doesn't want to come. In the last 2 days, the Athletic, who actually have journalists who are close to United have also said he DOES NOT want to come to United.
What we need to get straight is, the defered salary is to be paid in the next 2 years via his salary, so he cannot leave, if he does he gives that money up.
So if he wants to stay at Barca, he either carries on the current salary or reduces it. Either road leads to him staying.
We don't know he has specifically told Hen Hag he wants to come.
You're missing the main point of this saga. He agreed to the lower salary for two years with the understanding it would be paid(deferred) to the latter years of his contract. That time is now. Hence the 17m debate.
He does not have to leave and accept a lower salary. He's under contract and by staying, will be owed the 17m due now, plus the remaining years of his contract.
I think Barca's position is obvious in that they want him out. Besides the financial issue with them selling their TV rights(levers), wage restructuring and the reported issue of registering the new players they bought, Xavi has him playing at CB. He's not a CB. Clearly this is an attempt to unsettle the player and make him feel unwanted.
You can't discount the obvious which is we would not be persisting with this saga if we didn't have assurances from the player and the club that a deal is possible. Ignore the BS merchants that are riding this saga for clicks. It's a money making game and they play it all too well.
We have a fairly good idea that Timber told United he didn't want to come and within a few days we went for Martinez instead. Yet here we are, still chasing Frenkie. Why do you think that is?
100% this will happen, everyone on caf will have a go at the club whilst they are the ones who actually have this belief that he is coming. There has actually been no indication from anyone that he wants to come to United.
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