So if he goes who gets the Number 7 Shirt?
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I mean you might want CL football but go and find out if clubs want you, do it quietly. Then assess the situation.
Every player wants CL, but if no one wants you means you are not good enough.
That only applies to mere mortals elite players. To the mighty Ronaldo, once he made himself available, elite clubs will queue up to let him interview them to see if they are worthy of him
Martial outperforming Ronaldo isn't the point. It is the player who is now able to best serve the interests of EtH in the way he wants the team to play going forward. A fit Martial, who has shown he can be a functional all around CF when consistently played there, has done it in his one full season as the main CF. He has also shown his abilities throughout this preseason as the main CF. That is pretty clear.
Martial's best goal scoring season came as a CF 3 years ago, last time he was fully fit and played as the dedicated CF. He never scored to the abilities of Ronaldo, but all things considered now, it is better for United to let Ronaldo leave and go with Martial and potentially one other new CF, than having to accommodate Ronaldo.
And Nunez and Haaland haven't even played one league game with their new teams. There is no historical evidence with their current teams on how they will function. Meanwhile, Martial playing CF so far in preseason has been akin to his role when he played as the primary center forward. Have you not seen how he's been operating in the past 4 preseason games?
True. The re-signing of Ronaldo being (I hope) the last idiotic decision of the old Woodward regime.
Early indications are that things have changed. I’m not getting my hopes up too much, but I do feel there are grounds to be more positive.
We paid 15m for him and in instalments
Which makes me think he got strong signals from a potential suitor who then backed out on him when things got real. The signs point strongly to Boehly at Chelsea getting excited at the prospect of signing a superstar only for TT to tell him he had no interest when the story began to break in the media.
He has only one year left ,that and his age make his resell value practically zero.
Sorry, it's not about performance?
Martial hasn't ever shown he can be a functional all-around CF suitable for EtH and United. Like i said in my first reply, it's speculation that Martial might one day perform at a level. The evidence of 8 years, including a loan, is that his not good enough. I'm well aware he averages 6 goals, his stats for 19/20 aren't setting the world alight.edcunited1878 said:
It's probably better if Martial leaves and we get a better CF rather than rely on him.
Arguably the greatest player of all time, who was forged at our club under Sir Alex. Only the 4th United player to win the ballon d'or (first since 1968) and still a key play for us based on last season. Then again our club stopped being about excellence a good few years ago.
Not happy with his behaviour but I understand why he wants out and I certainly wont be burning any effigies.
Amen-aldo.
Napoli? How desperate can you become to play CL games
Martial has shown he can perform as a CF. You're being stubborn and ignorant. Whether or not he stays fit is the real question. He has motivation and is relied upon by EtH so far.
You want the only CF who has played under EtH thus far in preseason and who has successfully played at that position in previous season, to be shipped out and just be replaced that easily? By whom. This isn't FM or FIFA. Lets just slunk 100M United shouldn't spend on a last minute CF.
Martial has to be kept around and ideally some reinforcement has to be signed if Ronaldo leaves.
Might as well go back to Portugal.Napoli? How desperate can you become to play CL games
Yeah excatly!
What's so bad about Napoli? CL, finished 3rd last season only 7 points behind Milan. Those are the minimum requirements for him. United was in the same boat last year, thus he got on. I understand the Italian rivalry, but at this point in time, Ronaldo has no shame. He's desperate to stay at a CL club willing to take him on.Napoli? How desperate can you become to play CL games
Keep it about the post rather than being personal.
You're wrong; you haven't provided any evidence that remotely says Martial is good enough. The evidence is he has a level of technical abilities and not enough end product. There are many people who can juggle a ball that are far better sticking to TikTok or the circus. Scoring the odd goal in preseason against weaken opposition doesn't demonstrate he's good enough for the league, it illustrates his level to be able to perform which isn't united's main CF.
Maybe Napoli until January. They’ll be out of the Champions League by then and the cnut will be cup tied.
Mendes is not empowered to offer a loan to anybody. He can stick that idea where the sun don’t shine.
He's basically thrown away his alleged legend status over 5-10 cl goals
Loaning him to a team who probably won't even get through the group stage, bizarre.
Nobody with even a remote chance to win the CL next season wants him, so what is the point of all this posturing.
Nobody with even a remote chance to win the CL next season wants him, so what is the point of all this posturing.
Well you better go tell all that to ETH, because Ten Hag has been impressed by the pressing, link-up play and general play with Martial so far. Go tell him not to waste time I guess.
I would be ok with it under the right terms. Napoli clearly cannot pay his wages but if he is willing to waive the difference between what they can pay him and what his contract with us states then at this point he might as well go. I am definitely on the side of those who think a reluctant Ronaldo is likely to caused more harm than good and so it is better to turn the page however we can make that happen.
Yes, I think it’s Chelsea he’s angling for - hence the request to terminate his contract so we couldn’t veto the move.
Napoli wont be close to win UCL so its basicly just to play some games in group stages and score a couple of goals.
Where did i say it wasn't good against that weakened opposition?
Definitely is. That his and Mendes masterplan and they'd definitely pocket huge sign on bonuses. Wouldnt make sense to request a termination if someone doesnt definitely want him.
Ronnie: “I heard you sell CL? Champions League?”
Pete the Nando’s Guy: “CL isn’t Champions League. Chicken Legs, Ronnie, Chicken Legs.”
Ronnie: “How dare you. I don’t have chicken legs. I am Specimen. Observe.” *pulls shorts all the way up and removes shirt*
Pete the Nando’s Guy: “Three times this week, this fecker has done this…”
No chance we'll sell (or loan) to Chelsea, we're light on strikers and they're very much direct competition with us for UCL spots.
One of your better worksNot a high bar
Those 37 year old didn’t score 25 goals in a team that finished where we finished. Context is important in life.The most that was ever paid for a 37 year old in the history of football is 2 million pounds. You're dreaming
Do you think maybe his role under EtH is what the issue is? Probably more likely he's been told he will be on the bench a lot and he isn't happy because let's face it, you can go to Napoli but you're only going to be playing in the group stages of the CL. Napoli have as much chance of winning the CL as United do and we're not even in the thing!Napoli? How desperate can you become to play CL games
Would be quite funny if he was to get his wish, but scores 0 UCL goals.
I read a rumour today (not in English so i will not post it) that Bayern, despite saying no, is doing research how much money they can get from Ronaldo's name.
He will end in Bayern, mark my words
He will end in Bayern, mark my words
Oh, Ronaldo... On one hand I can understand being his age that he wants to play in the Champions League (as long as he keeps going and scores a few he'll be more difficult to catch). He has limited options, if any, all the big clubs have passed and camp Ronaldo seem to be grasping at straws, it looks painfully bad for them. At the same time he's literally walking away from the only fanbase that gives a damn about him (aside from Sporting maybe). For him and his legacy, it would probably be better to stick around and put in the job at United but he doesn't really care, he only cares about records and scoring goals. It's not a bad thing, it's pretty much what has driven him all along, he won't change for anyone. Maybe a breakup is a best thing for everyone involved. Anyway, if he stays, hopefully he won't be too much of a distraction. If he leaves, good luck.
Whatever happens I hope Messi overtakes him in CL and wins the World Cup.
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