Napoli president rules out signing Africans committed to Nations Cup

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África should just have their tournaments in summer like everyone else.
No, thanks for your suggestion though

Don't they do it in the winter because it would be too warm if not or is that somewhere else?
Summer is problematic for football in many parts of Africa (rainy season, hot temperatures and humidity)
 

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Can't really blame him. I avoid Africans like the plague on my FM saves too. It's just a hassle to deal with.

Apparantly they moved the summer scheduled AFCON 2023 back to Jan 2024 because of the "weather conditions in Ivory Coast".

When you look up their weather the temperature is about the same, but it rains 2/3 of the time. I thought they blessed the rains down in Africa.
 

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That and really just move the tournament to the European off season/mid year
África should just have their tournaments in summer like everyone else.
It's been decided since 2019, and the CAF president has said the Cameroon edition was an exception. The default schedule for the cup is now summer.
Apparantly they moved the summer scheduled AFCON 2023 back to Jan 2024 because of the "weather conditions in Ivory Coast".

When you look up their weather the temperature is about the same, but it rains 2/3 of the time. I thought they blessed the rains down in Africa.
Didn't know that
 

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It might well be extremely hot in the summer especially, but does AFCON need to be held every 2 years? The Euros and the Asian Cup come along only once every 4 years, same for the Copa before they suddenly arranged one every year. Might well be beneficial for African football too.
 

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Theory: refusing to hire African players because of their possible absence once every 2 years is as rational as refusing to hire women because of their possible absence due to pregnancy or "time of the month" events
 

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How many games do they even miss? 3-5 games every two seasons?

It's a factor in what a club would be willing to spend on a player, but probably only accounts for a small % of games played over the course of two seasons.
 

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It might well be extremely hot in the summer especially, but does AFCON need to be held every 2 years? The Euros and the Asian Cup come along only once every 4 years, same for the Copa before they suddenly arranged one every year. Might well be beneficial for African football too.
Yes. It's great for the fans and players and football associations.

How would less football be beneficial for African football?
 

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Some absolute mental posts in this thread, very Eurocentric.

Look at how many African teams participate in the World Cup, give your head a wobble, and then contemplate again whether having the African Cup every 4 years makes sense.

And no, it won't be moved to the summer permanently either, you exclude a lot of countries potentially hosting it as well. They could try alternating but that would make it very irregular.

Napoli's loss, it would be a shame for any African youth player in there academy who might dream of playing for Napoli.
 

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I don't think he has a problem with the players representing their nations. I think he has a problem with said representation taking the players away from their club for crucial periods every two years.

This is more of a statement to try and get AFCON to fall into line and play a summer tourney rather than anything else.
Tomato, tomahto
Theory: refusing to hire African players because of their possible absence once every 2 years is as rational as refusing to hire women because of their possible absence due to pregnancy or "time of the month" events
Yep. That's what makes it yucky
 

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Some absolute mental posts in this thread, very Eurocentric.

Look at how many African teams participate in the World Cup, give your head a wobble, and then contemplate again whether having the African Cup every 4 years makes sense.

And no, it won't be moved to the summer permanently either, you exclude a lot of countries potentially hosting it as well. They could try alternating but that would make it very irregular.

Napoli's loss, it would be a shame for any African youth player in there academy who might dream of playing for Napoli.
Well we are talking about a European team in a European country.
 

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Well we are talking about a European team in a European country.
Which has no relevance to when the CAF should be played. As over have said, it's not possible to have it during summer without excluding the vast majority of countries due to climate.
 

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I don't think he has a problem with the players representing their nations. I think he has a problem with said representation taking the players away from their club for crucial periods every two years.

This is more of a statement to try and get AFCON to fall into line and play a summer tourney rather than anything else.
Ridiculous

AFCON will fall in line because of Napoli??

No one of note is going to follow suit and Join Napoli in this, certainly no major European side, they know the value of the quality of player in Africa, and also know the stupidity in giving players ultimatums over club or national side

This is nothing more than a moronic move by someone so far up himself and his self importance that he does see the retard nature of this decision

It not ideal missing players mid season of course, but plan better, if your going to take on players you know will go missing for several weeks for the AFCON, make sure you have something in place perhaps

and if you really can’t afford to miss these players, then maybe you shouldn’t have signed them in the first place, it just reeks of someone spitting their dummy out because they lost the league, boo hoo nappy man
 

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Wow just heard the interview. The xenophobia drips off of him...

I get that his interest is his club, but yikes. Really not a good look, so, uh, disrespectful(?) can't think of a better term, to an entire continent. Wonder how Osimhen and Anguissa will react...
 

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Thinly veiled "I refuse to sign Africans because I'm a racist"
Not really. You’re losing players every two years for 2 months. It’s a legitimate football and business concern for clubs especially those below a certain income level.
 

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Not really. You’re losing players every two years for 2 months. It’s a legitimate football and business concern for clubs especially those below a certain income level.
The way he actually says it comes off bad. Sounds xenophobic and racist.
 

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The way he actually says it comes off bad. Sounds xenophobic and racist.
Mmm, not sure about racist, but definitely a bit xenophobic. Really fecking disrespectful more than anything
 

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Not really. You’re losing players every two years for 2 months. It’s a legitimate football and business concern for clubs especially those below a certain income level.
Where are you getting the 2 months from? I might be miscalculating. Isnt it about a month if the player reaches the final?
 

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Closer to 2
How? There isn't even a month inbetween the first match and the final? Do they have 2 weeks training camp before?

+ Most players don't go to the final.
 

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Where are you getting the 2 months from? I might be miscalculating. Isnt it about a month if the player reaches the final?
closer to two, also don’t forget most of the best teams reach the QF.

Another thing to consider is injuries and recovery time from playing so many matches in such a quick succession and being abroad. It’s not unheard of players who were on form taking a 3-5 weeks to recover their league form after returning.

These things are true for every tournament usually we have the sluggish start to the season after a WC. After this years WC you’ll notice a drop off in league quality when it resumes.
 

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Entirely reasonable. You pay players to play for your team - you don't want them disappearing for a month every two years (or 4 don't remember).
How is a discriminatory practice “reasonable”?

Next we’re not employing women unless they agree to not having kids?
 

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Outstanding take when we're about to have a world cup starting in November.
Much to the ire of practically everyone around the globe. Let's just ignore the fact that corruption, bribery and a misleading World Cup bid built on false-promises and exaggerated claims (ie: Qatar lied) essentially lead us down this road. The World Cup was supposed to take place this summer in state-of-the-art stadiums with fancy air conditioning, remember? Ha. More to the point, a World Cup being held during the winter is not the norm, never has been, and probably never will be. Not an apt comparison whatsoever.