I could accept all of that, if they talked about players with any sort of accuracy but here we have the majority of people describing the opposite of what the player is.
He's never impressed me when I've watched him. Maybe you've seen games where he was particularly good but I certainly don't think he'd make a big improvement to our midfield
Yes I agree with all that
How many games have you seen of him?
I'm struggling to think if he'd be a starter, or in contention, for any other team in the league?
A player who actually presses and can defend, won't improve the midfield?
Having watched all three multiple times I think he is an upgrade. Not a huge one, but an upgrade. Just an opinion though, and I would have question marks on his personality.
I've watched a lot of Juventus games over the last few years and I also saw him play for PSG so I don't know the exact number but it's been a lot. He impressed me more when he was at PSG. I wasn't specifically focusing on Rabiot in these games like I do when I want to scout certain players but from just generally watching matches as a neutral I've seen him lose the ball alot and he's always looked like a weakness for Juventus imo. If they disagreed with that I doubt he would currently be in the last year of his contract despite entering what should be his prime.
Sounds like he'll fit right in at United.
It really won't take much..
He'd be an improvement, but not a significant one. I'd still probably take him over nothing but there are many players I would prefer us to go for first.
At this point, this ain't a football forum. It's a mental health pinata.
Fixed. Didn’t stop them.
What about the season before that? Has this been a constant degradation with no signs of improvement? Why put him into a tougher league when last season he was worse than Scott was last season in said tougher league? Makes no sense for me. Scott should be a squad player for us, not a starter, I'll give anyone and everyone that. But to replace his starting position with someone who performs on average worse than Scott has in a worse league despite being in a team of Juventus' stature, is absurd.
He is more of a ball carrier unlike Fred and also physically bigger and a lot better
Wrong again, we have no midfielders that both apply presser and defend well, Rabiot is also decent on the ball if not very good to excellent, but we have Eriksen and hopefully FDJ for that.
Fair amount of Juve fans worried about his injuries and low and be hold. I swear sometimes the people working in football can be very clueless. Redcafe worried about wan bissaka's ball abilities and look at us now.
Here's his stats for the Nations League this year:
Got you, just cleaning house then.
I'm genuinely curious: Do you have any stats that back up Rabiot being better than McTominay in McT's position? Because when I compare them, Rabiot generally looks absolutely worse last season and kind of 50/50 vs Scott the season before that. This while playing in a slower, lower quality league. If he plays for us I'd like to be proven wrong but I am looking at the devils in the details and he's not really shining, while playing for a team that is at the moment going through a similar struggle domestically to ourselves.
Well, those highlighted are not "bad" in my eyes. McTominay likes to have the ball because he thinks he's gods gifts to human, hence the more touches. He thinks he is a good passer, which he's not, hence the more "worse pass accuracy". Crossing is our winger and wing backs job, not a central midfielder. And "attempted "fewer through balls"... again, McTominay thinks he's a good passer so he tries them more, but he's useless
Watching football
Fred is one of the best pressers in the entire league. His problem is his defensive positioning is inconsistent because he's not a natural dm and played most of his games at Shakhtar as an attacking midfielder. For us all of his best games have come when he's positioned slightly higher up the pitch. In terms of Rabiot improving us due to his pressing, sure, he'd improve our ability to win the ball back but there are plenty of midfielders that can do that. Sangare who plenty have mentioned can do that but Sangare's passing is very inconsistent and because of this I don't think he suits a possession based team like ETH almost certainly wants Utd to be. I feel the same about Rabiot. Despite what some others seem to believe I don't think Rabiot is a particularly good passer and as I mentioned to another poster I've seen him lose the ball frequently. If you disagree with that fine, but my opinion is he wouldn't be a very good buy, and that's without even going into what seem to be consistent reports about his lack of professionalism, which by all accounts seems to already be an issue within our dressing room.
Ok, applying pressure and knowing how to effectively press tactically are different things.
