You don't get my point, do you? The club was shit and out of CL often before, but players still joined us. Now not anymore with added reason of the club being unstable. I believe that added reason became a thing suddenly this summer most likely because of the consequence of hiring Ralf in that role.
You are seriously beyond help here. We've had 10 years of crap ownership and it's catching up with us, it's not because a competent person called out the idiots at the club
Wreck-It proved to be anything but competent!
To be fair I think we were 8-9 points off 4th when Ole took over back in 2018 vs 3 last season.
Spot on.
He's a DOF we hired as a manager. Then sacked as a DOF because he wasn't a good enough manager.Wreck-It proved to be anything but competent!
He never was the DOF nor was he hired to become the DOF. The facts are he was only going to be a consultant, a role that was his idea not United's and he was only gong to be be working 2 days a month. Still to this day people have wild ideas that Ralf was brought into somehow oversee a rebuild of the club and run the football operation and/or recruitment. He wasn't going to be doing anything like that and in all likelihood the club simply wanted an experienced Interim manager asap and gave him the 2 year consultancy gig just to get him on board.
I understand he was brought in to be a consultant in his second year. But ultimately he was supposed to have a more strategic role, similar to a DOF, rather than be on the front line I.e. a manager, which is the point.
You are correct. He was never going to be the DOF. However, the club could have used his knowledge and contacts to plan our operations and recruitment strategy which the actual DOF would then implement.
Completely wrong! He took the Austria job.....as MANAGER? He even said himself at the beginning that he would even consider putting himself forward as the permanent manager replacement depending on how things went. It soon became apparent that this was never going to happen.
He was not.. He was useless. ..
then you explain how we went from where we are to our position now. and let's take Bruno as a prime example...
The Glazer have been here for 16 years. ED Woodward was in charge of sporting matters for 10 years and whatever is happening now, it is his legacy.
He was sacked because he made his own position within the club completely untenable. Being opinionated, arrogant, and highly critical of all aspects and personnel within the club, in public, isn’t going to win over your colleagues, or prospective managers for that matter.
Why?
Because he's done the job, with success, that Murtough is learning to do.
What job?
It just takes United having more key players that perform better without fans than other clubs. It’s a well known phenomenon that certain players looks amazing in training but struggle to maintain those standards on match-day (with others thriving on playing in front of crowds) If we have an unusually high number of players in that first category (or one or two of our most important players) then we will benefit more than other clubs.
Learn and understand the role people do within your club first...and then you'll know.
Do you not have an answer then?
I do indeed.
Well, I have put forward my theory and I will do so again. I admit I haven't analysed the numbers, but sometimes its just a gut feeling.
The club should have a vision for the future before Ferguson's retirement. There suppose to be a process, a preparation that needed the plan to find the right manager after his retirement. The club never thought of it!!?
I agree they could and probably should have done but obviously a decision was made to sack him. What prompted that decision I don't know but personally I suspect Ten Hag wasn't keen on working with him.
I just saw a tweet in the other thread saying ten hag is the driving force in the transfer window and gave a detailed dossier which blew away murtogh and fletcher. I reckon rangnicks list of players and ten hags list of players differed greatly and the board decided to not antagonize the new manager and bid farewell to rangnick.
The difference in fortunes between 20-21 and 21-22 are fairly obvious to most United fans I would have thought.
I understand the theory mate but it's a stretch. We finished 3rd the season before when fans attended most of the games. In 20-21 Liverpool fell apart due to injuries in defence and Chelsea had a rough season when Lampard struggled. Those two factors way more than any far out theory about fan attendance contributed to United moving up a place from the season before.
The likely explanation in my opinion, there were quite a few reports a few months back when Ralf was sacked that the types of players he was recommending didn't gel with what Ten Hag wanted.
I think watching that list it's pretty clear we would have been a much much better team, a DM away from being a complete team.
Think either the Athletic or ESPN reported EtH did speak with RR for hours in late May. But they never actually met in person.
