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How realistic would Casemiro & Caicedo for under £100m be?
Agree, but we are in a bad spot. Obviously scouting and recruitment has been shocking of late. I hope that ETH help shape the structure around him and we start scouting players that fit into his ethos.He’s a top player but this signing shows we haven’t learnt anything and we don’t have a strategy. We’re going to pay 60million for a 30 year old on big wages. It will be fine for now but why aren’t we finding the next Casemiro. Why aren’t we thinking long term. We constantly make these signings. Don’t get me wrong we could do with this guy and let’s hope he’s a modric who can play at the top level for the next 5/6 years but what if he isn’t? Then what?
anyone can pick Casemiro out of a crowd.. what the hell are our recruitment teams doing out there. Anyone of us could say sign this guy. we just keep buying superstars. Obvious transfers.
dont Get me wrong; he’s a top player, this post is more on the side of questioning our recruitment team. So many young and up and coming DMS have been sold this summer.. why didn’t we get one or two of them for the same price ? What are these guys doing?
About as realistic as pigs flying I think. We f'd up by not getting Caicedo for £4.5m when we had the chance. We'll have to go looking for the next Caicedo now.How realistic would Casemiro & Caicedo for under £100m be?
Agree on this,the owners and board have put us in this position. Not like we can pick and choice from the top shelf for good prices. We will overpay cause we reek desperation.I don’t mind paying a lot for someone like Casemiro, he’s class, also we have to get fleeced for a little bit now (thanks Ed, and Judge), until we are more competitive, then we would have more pull power, and are not as desperate in general.
Would prefer to have Casemiro and Fred as double pivot with Eriksen as 10. Bruno can't play in Erik's systemthat's asking a lot of Casemiro to jump from a 3 man midfield (and one of the best in the world) to a 2 man midfield against a faster and more physical league with far less talented players surrounding him. On top of that I think we will see teams continue to try and press United up the pitch as long as this team is incapable of playing out of it.
Consider the context as well... We have been dire and Madrid and European champions. By the very nature of the form of the two clubs he will have had the chance to do far less of those destructive actions that McT, and yet he destroys him on every stat you want from a CDM. Hope we get this one done.Maybe a tad?
Holy shit that is some grim reading!
If he doesn't come then we are fully fecked this season IMO. We are in free fall at the moment. Desperately need a top DM in. I don't see what other options are left at this stage who would come. Of course we are scrambling, we are in a desperate state, lost 4-0 to Brentford, a change in manager didn't change the mentality of the squad... It might in time, but it would be a very rough season as Ten Hag works through the players and finds a mix that can work for him and the rest are listed for sale. Someone like Casemiro stops the free fall, gives us midfield stability, and enables ten hag to build a lot better. Still takes time. But at least last weekend shouldn't repeat itself with someone like casemiro in. Though still need a new goalkeeper desperately too.What happens if he doesn’t come? This feels like a stab in the dark at the moment as we’re running out of options.
now if we got Casemiro and a couple other signings in before the window closes.. maybe it would feel different. It just doesn’t feel like we have a plan, does it?
let’s hope we get him because feck knows what happens if he says no thank you.
Caicedo alone would cost close to 80How realistic would Casemiro & Caicedo for under £100m be?
It means they think we are loaded, and he won't be going cheap!What does that mean?
Well the alternative to is play Eriksen and Fred in front of him. As ETH wants to play an attacking,, possession based system, I went with the former. But I’m good either way. Maybe the two Brazilians will have some familiarity and chemistry.that's asking a lot of Casemiro to jump from a 3 man midfield (and one of the best in the world) to a 2 man midfield against a faster and more physical league with far less talented players surrounding him. On top of that I think we will see teams continue to try and press United up the pitch as long as this team is incapable of playing out of it.
Nah, feck FDJ, I knew that was never gonna happen. Considering the number of professional players playing in some of the best leagues in Europe, it doesn't compute to me that a good scouting team cannot find the right players (by right I mean age/wage/transfer fee etc etc..).So we should try for more of the FdJ ones?
Exactly. I actually respect Arnold and Murtough’s decision. We simply can’t make the same mistakes over and over. Casemiro’s case is different though.God knows. I don't actually pay attention to other club's transfers. Does any other club go through all this 'monitoring the situation', 'preparing a bid', 'making an imminent approach' stuff?
Yeah. I'd rather get fleeced for Casemiro than Rabiot.
Our defence will still look poor with DDG permanently attached to his line.Our major flaw for many years has been the lack of a midfield! Having a fully functioning midfield should make our defence look good and will also drive the attack a firm base to work from. This signing is essential for us!
Really excited about this one. Would definitely expect him to improve us a lot.
I do too my friend..I DO TOO!Consider the context as well... We have been dire and Madrid and European champions. By the very nature of the form of the two clubs he will have had the chance to do far less of those destructive actions that McT, and yet he destroys him on every stat you want from a CDM. Hope we get this one done.
I get the point your making. I guess we waited 2 months for FDJ and put everyone else on hold until we knew what he was going to do. I guess that’s our biggest mistake unless we somehow get him (looks unlikely). It’s left us scrambling while other clubs snapped up players left right and centre.If he doesn't come then we are fully fecked this season IMO. We are in free fall at the moment. Desperately need a top DM in. I don't see what other options are left at this stage who would come. Of course we are scrambling, we are in a desperate state, lost 4-0 to Brentford, a change in manager didn't change the mentality of the squad... It might in time, but it would be a very rough season as Ten Hag works through the players and finds a mix that can work for him and the rest are listed for sale. Someone like Casemiro stops the free fall, gives us midfield stability, and enables ten hag to build a lot better. Still takes time. But at least last weekend shouldn't repeat itself with someone like casemiro in. Though still need a new goalkeeper desperately too.
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Agree that we need all of the above and may i add new owners?I get the point your making. I guess we waited 2 months for FDJ and put everyone else on hold until we knew what he was going to do. I guess that’s our biggest mistake unless we somehow get him (looks unlikely). It’s left us scrambling while other clubs snapped up players left right and centre.
we need a goalkeeper, I agree.
a right back.
a defensive midfielder.
a midfielder who can link defence and attack (FDJ)
Another winger
A striker.
Need to sell 4/5 of these players (particularly who is leaking to the press).
Casemiro on deadline day doesn’t stop this free fall. Let’s hope they are finally acting now though eh.
god I do sound negative. I’m not. I just love this club and 10 years of this shite does this to you.
Either gave this sorry lot too much credit or backed himself a tad too much to be able to turn silver out of shiteI'm shocked that ETH is shocked.
It helps to play with these Modric and Kroos guys.Maybe a tad?
Holy shit that is some grim reading!
Hey, someone who does this will stop the free fall, I assure youI get the point your making. I guess we waited 2 months for FDJ and put everyone else on hold until we knew what he was going to do. I guess that’s our biggest mistake unless we somehow get him (looks unlikely). It’s left us scrambling while other clubs snapped up players left right and centre.
we need a goalkeeper, I agree.
a right back.
a defensive midfielder.
a midfielder who can link defence and attack (FDJ)
Another winger
A striker.
Need to sell 4/5 of these players (particularly who is leaking to the press).
Casemiro on deadline day doesn’t stop this free fall. Let’s hope they are finally acting now though eh.
god I do sound negative. I’m not. I just love this club and 10 years of this shite does this to you.
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chances are -100%How realistic would Casemiro & Caicedo for under £100m be?
Of course but Mctominator would not have the same stats playing with them, you cant polish a turdIt helps to play with these Modric and Kroos guys.
You, me and everyone knew that our club / our recruitment teams were shite in Woodward era, it will not change in a day suddenly and it needs time to change if Murtough's ability capable to do so / our fecking owner want to.but that’s the job of world class recruitment teams isn’t it? To find players with top potential and unlock it? Except we don’t have world class recruitment so we through the dart at big names and hope they want to come. I’m looking at the list of players we’re linked with over the next 48 hours and it’s laughable. No strategy at all.
3 games into the season and now you go for this guy?
again my post isn’t a reflection on Casemiro, it’s On the powers that be at united who are flapping around with 13 days left of the window to sign players.. and YET again going for the obvious stop gap signing for big money because we don’t have any other options.
For a club this size it’s just so badly run at this points it’s laughable.
that’s if Casemiro even comes and a deal can be done with Madrid. If this one doesn’t happen then feck knows because this feels like a roll of the dice right now.