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Our best signing in I don't know how long, maybe Fernandes remember when he was good?
The reason Fernandes was so good was because of the quality he was replacing - Lingard and Pereira were so bad that season. I reckon the same thing will happen here - the gap between Casemiro and McTominay is so great that the whole team will get a boost.
 

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Brilliant signing. I'm amazed that there are people turning up their nose at the lynchpin of a side that won 5 CL and 3 La Ligas because he's 30. McTominay to Casemiro is literally the biggest upgrade I have ever seen. No exaggeration. I challenge anyone to think of a better replacement in a top team's starting line-up.

My only worry would be if he's moving purely for the money. But even then, he's such a professional that I think he'd be elite even as a mercenary. He looks like he has a great deal of professional pride.
 

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United obsessed with getting him in for the pool game to try and persuade fans not to boycott it.
 

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Looks like madrid are going to spend the casemiro money straight away. Rumours that neymar is going to madrid before the window shuts. Just saw the tweet on twitter, espn brazil and orstein are on it.
 

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I hear you but why can’t we sign a 20 year old, proven world class player, and sign them quickly, for a good deal, and on low wages because they are dying to play for the badge, though?
Because we operate in real life and not fifa ultimate team….
 

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Very exciting signing, long overdue. Will make as big a difference to our chances this season as just about any other player I can think of. The guy is a rock solid DM.

All that being said, let's not allow the (hopefully) flurry of signings distract us from the real goal - Glazers Out. Liverpool needs to be a massive show of disdain for these leeches.
 

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Looks like madrid are going to spend the casemiro money straight away. Rumours that neymar is going to madrid before the window shuts. Just saw the tweet on twitter, espn brazil and orstein are on it.
Makes sense considering the rift between him and Mbappe but man it's gonna be weird seeing neymar in a Madrid shirt.
 

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Looks like madrid are going to spend the casemiro money straight away. Rumours that neymar is going to madrid before the window shuts. Just saw the tweet on twitter, espn brazil and orstein are on it.
literally the worst way they could spend that money.

also worried about how casemiro fits in with ETH long term plans? He isn’t exactly a ball carrying midfielder or passer.

I hope we eventually pair him with FDJ.
 

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Some of my best exams were done in a fit of panic.

Although looking at it from a squad perspective, it looks more planned than De Jong.

Having Bruno and Eriksen, who would make more sense - Casemiro or De Jong?

Among our midfielders, we have playmaking capacities (Eriksen, Bruno), Box-to-box players (Fred, McTominay), attacking facilitators (VdB), but not one who can take defensive responibility in a reliable way. Based on what we have and what we lack, this looks more like a profile analytics based signing than De Jong or Rabiot would.
This is not planned. ETH spent all summer trying to sign FDJ. Now we're signing a completely different profile in Casemiro. I wanted both a sitter and controller, but ETH seemed adamant in signing a controller. Hopefully he can still make this work, but I disagree that this is planned.

If we were signing both, that would be pretty unreal.
 

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I get the concerns about signing a 30 year old, and to some degree I share them. I thought the plan was to build a team in Ten Hag's image, and that seemed like something that might be done with younger players. But ultimately after the appalling first two games, and with the poor quality of the midfield, I find it hard to argue against a guy that's heralded as amongst the best in what he does. But then that's what I thought we were getting with Varane as well.

Time will tell, but the Utd midfield is so poor, I can't see how this can be anything other than an improvement.
 

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I wonder what the Real Madrid fans here think about this. The sense I have got from the ones I know outside here is that he is a leader but that on the pitch he is waning a bit. Quality in terms of defensive nous but not great in terms of buildup
 

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McTominay to Casemiro is literally the biggest upgrade I have ever seen. No exaggeration. I challenge anyone to think of a better replacement in a top team's starting line-up.
Uh, hello? Does “Ronaldo to Valencia” ring any bells?
 

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He's a completely different player to De Jong who was Ten hag's number one target, surely we still need someone who can dictate the game? Am I missing something?
I think we'll see Eriksen and Casemiro as a midfield 2 a lot, a destroyer and a dictator. Fred as a third choice is a lot better than a starting player in my opinion.
 

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His role at Madrid seems to be that of a Ball winner / destroyer. He immediately finds one of Kroos or Modric or anyone else in midfield after he wins the ball back. He doesnt really carry the ball forward or dictate play which would mean we need someone of that calibre beside him. Would that be eriksen ? Bruno ? VdB ? fred ?.

Imagine him winning the ball back after battling 3 players only to see Mc/Fred misplace a 5 yard pass and start a counter attack
Is this some sort of 8 mile Free World sketch?
 

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Maybe Casemiro can guide Fred, like with the NT. I would not write him off completely yet, as he can be a bit more attacking now and not play the holding role.
Will ha suddenly learn to pass with a better player alongside him? Not holding out hope
 

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Has to be said, Madrid are not a bad club to do business with. Not much messing around with them.
Real are like engineers or architects. Arrogant as feck but they're intelligent and no nonsense. They know what they want and they know the most practical way to get it. They build cities.

Barcelona are painters or poets. Drunk and drugged out of their skulls 99% of the time, barge their way into your house and knocking over your furniture, piss on your cat etc but somehow do it in a majestic fashion when they look like they're always going to fall over. They create art. Some of it is the Mona Lisa, some of it is a cow cut in half.

Manchester United are fighters. Come back from the pub after a double shift at the docks and are secretly hoping Billy next door complains about your overhanging tree again so you have an excuse to fecking rush him.
 

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I presume this will get done before monday to try and take some momentum out of protests. Not enough imo and the kind of offer thats being talked about sounds irresponsible
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Obsessed with getting him by Monday. Predictable and pathetic. Get him in 2 months back and they'd save themselves from so much criticism, so much drama. They can get fecked, keep the protests going and they might start running the club competently or preferably feck off and die.
 

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I get the concerns about signing a 30 year old, and to some degree I share them. I thought the plan was to build a team in Ten Hag's image, and that seemed like something that might be done with younger players. But ultimately after the appalling first two games, and with the poor quality of the midfield, I find it hard to argue against a guy that's heralded as amongst the best in what he does. But then that's what I thought we were getting with Varane as well.

Time will tell, but the Utd midfield is so poor, I can't see how this can be anything other than an improvement.
Yea the plan to build a team in the managers image is clearly out the window. They should still be held accountable for chasing a single player all summer and failing to get the deal done.

But whilst neither age or style of play is ideal, they have signed a damn good player. It just feels like we have gone back to signing avaliable big name players rather than the ideal components of a long term team.

Much more appealing signing than Rabiot though, regardless of age
 

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This is not planned. ETH spent all summer trying to sign FDJ. Now we're signing a completely different profile in Casemiro. I wanted both a sitter and controller, but ETH seemed adamant in signing a controller. Hopefully he can still make this work, but I disagree that this is planned.

If we were signing both, that would be pretty unreal.
There were the Kante rumours early on so it’s not out of the question that a senior ball winner was wanted.
 

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We went from trying to unlock Pogba to unlocking Fred :cool:
Fred looks half decent in that more advance role. He has the lungs to run for days and a pretty decent short passing game. He also never goes into hiding like Pogba. I had all but given up on him playing in that position but that’s where he will excel the most with us I believe.
 

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We went from trying to unlock Pogba to unlocking Fred :cool:
:lol: :nervous:

Ok, not sure what Ronaldo has to do with it, he's 38, Casemiro is 30 and literally the best in the world in his position. When was the last time we had that?

Also DM's regularly play til their late 30's, Fernandinho is an example. He's never been a player who's relied on pace, and his positioning/reading of the game is second to none. he's a player more than capable of giving us 4/5 too class years.
We are too soft letting the smarter clubs get the up and coming players who they then use to win everything in their peak and then sell for a profit to clubs like us with no vision and rinse and repeat. That’s a smart successful win at all cost club vs a rudderless mess. You really think they’d let the player go if they felt like they hadn’t already got the best out of him? Varane being another major case in point. Sanchez. Greizman would have been another major bust and so on. There are many improving players who would instantly get into our team and make us play better. 1/3 of the wages, yet to reach their peak, with major resale value at some point. We never find these young players who are about to be a really big hit anymore and that was always the core identity of the club. Our scouting was cutting edge. We’ve gone down the tubes since we started blindly bringing in world star brand names late in their careers
 

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He’s only signing for us because he wants as much practice starting next to Fred as possible to win Brazil the World Cup in December.

On a positive note are we allowed to unzip yet?
It's best just to walk around with it hanging out all the time.
 

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60 million on a 30 year old. Hard to believe this is the best that the brains trust at United could come up with. Real are quite happy to punt him out the door for this kind of silly money, knowing full well it's in a normal club's interest to shift aging players for huge money. We shouldn't be operating like this, we should have had 4-5 solid upcoming names of the right profile earlier in the summer instead of pissing around then panicking on aging legs.

Oh well, I guess it's time to pray that he adjusts to the PL very quickly.
 

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Was reading this thread the other day at 8 pages long and thinking no way this is gonna happen and now look at it… really excited to see this happen even if he only has 2-3 years at the very top that would still be far, far better than any other option out there that is available now.
Maybe we have agent Fred and Varane to thank for this or maybe it was the Casemiro appreciation thread:drool:
 

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Fairly typical of modern day United to sign an ideal midfielder to play alongside Pogba the moment Pogba walks out the door
 
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