Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

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I'm getting quite excited about the thought of him on one wing and Sancho on the other. Do we think that this signing can help bring out the best in Sancho?

I feel like we need a pacey and mobile striker to get the best out of both, too.
 

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I'm getting quite excited about the thought of him on one wing and Sancho on the other. Do we think that this signing can help bring out the best in Sancho?

I feel like we need a pacey and mobile striker to get the best out of both, too.
The fullback you have behind you really changes everything as well. Sancho had no help from Wan Bissaka for most of the time he';s been here. I think playing with Malacia or Shaw he will do better.
 

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I’m glad he seems desperate to join us, but I do worry about overspending on players like Antony that can become deadwoood if ETH doesn’t work out.
 

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Well, just to be clear, I'm not exactly fixated on the fee, I was just thinking that since the player has clearly shown that he wants out to the point of missing training, I thought that could maybe give us some wiggle room. The only real issue I have with spending massive amounts of money on a single player is that it takes money away from other positions. People seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of that, and think anyone who brings up transfer fees is somehow worried about the Glazers' bank account. Which is clearly not true.

But ultimately, as long as we get players in, I obviously don't give a shite how much it costs.
Sorry, I didn't mean you specificaly on the fixation, just in general.

€100m and he could easily end up a Pepe or Sancho when we have much more pressing concerns. We just don't learn apparently and neither do the fans. Muppets just wanna muppet.
Don't be fooled, attacking players are a pressing concern. You watched this team in the last 18 months?
 

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Anyone else old enough to remember when our feeder team was the height of exotic foreign adventure? And when we used call them ‘Hay-Jacks’? Oh.
 

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It is a pressing concern, a massive one. We need more talent like him desperately. The price is a madness, but it is simply what it is.
What are our more pressing concerns then? Would say a RW is top on the list. We don't create and we can't score for shit. We have an underperforming Rashford playing week in week out for.

Get this guy no matter what
It's not the most pressing concern when we have holes at right back, central midfield and up front that need fixing first. With this signing, we can pretty much say goodbye to any other signing. Paying €50m more than what he's worth is just plain stupid especially when there's questions mark about the player still. If he turns out shite which is definitely within the realms of possibility with our recent track record, you guys will be the first to complain about wasted money.
 

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It's not the most pressing concern when we have holes at right back, central midfield and up front that need fixing first. With this signing, we can pretty much say goodbye to any other signing. Paying €50m more than required is just stupid especially when there's questions mark about the player still.
How'd you know that? We have no clue what our budget is. Also RW is the most pressing concern. We have nothing up front. After that RB I agree. Another CM wouldn't hurt but right now we are able to field Brazil's starting CM pairing so that's no so bad anymore. I'm excited.
 

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It's not the most pressing concern when we have holes at right back, central midfield and up front that need fixing first. With this signing, we can pretty much say goodbye to any other signing. Paying €50m more than what he's worth is just plain stupid especially when there's questions mark about the player still. If he turns out shite, you guys will be the first to complain about wasted money.
We just signed Casemiro

We will also be working on other deals
 

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The fullback you have behind you really changes everything as well. Sancho had no help from Wan Bissaka for most of the time he';s been here. I think playing with Malacia or Shaw he will do better.
Great point. I'm not that clued up on potential right back targets, but it would be amazing if we could get someone in along with Antony to completely overhaul that right hand side. Suddenly, with Malacia and Sancho on one wing, plus Antony and a new attacking rb on the other, it does seem a little bit more exciting, if it's only in my head. :drool:

I think the sooner we can phase out Shaw and bring in Malacia into the starting 11, the better.
 

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Sorry why is there more reason? Explain. What skills does Antony lack. Instead of bringing up past examples why don’t you actually talk about the individual player. Why will he fail in your expert opinion?
Where did I say he will fail? He's just not worth 100m at this point, it's that simple. You bring up individual quality but its a huge risk to buy because of that alone. The quality of the league we are buying from, the fact in the past few years most of the players from that said league have not done much in the pl, Antony didn't light up the champions league either like De Jong and De Ligt did, coming from the Eredivisie. These are all factors that should matter. We might as well start signing players that are performing from the Chinese league if you think individual quality is all that matters
 

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The reports of Gakpo as an alternative are so odd to me. It just kicks the problem up the road. More right footed wingers who prefer the left and get shoe horned on the right.

Antony would be the first left footed winger who prefers the right that we've signed for the first team since... Ever?
 

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Where did I say he will fail? He's just not worth 100m at this point, it's that simple. You bring up individual quality but its a huge risk to buy because of that alone. The quality of the league we are buying from, the fact in the past few years most of the players from that said league have not done much in the pl, Antony didn't light up the champions league either like De Jong and De Ligt did. These are all factors that should matter. We might as well start signing players that are performing from the Chinese league if you think individual quality is all that matters
He didn’t?
 

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We shouldn't go let us get forced to overpay, even if we trust the manager and this specific player is his number one target. For two reasons: the money we spent today, isn't there to be spent in the future. Even if ETH is totally happy about Anthony, the next manager in maybe two years will be limited in his actions because of the high fee. If you are going to spend so much, then the whole structure should be convinced, that this is a good buy. But apparently, it is only the manager in this case.
I don't know, why people are so fast at being pushed into some sort of "there is no alternative". That is as short-sighted as it gets, there are always option, always alternatives. And we can't laugh at Barca, selling their future while we do the same thing on a smaller scaler. You can't just un-do bad decisions by overpaying. We are trying to undo bad decisions and bad planning with with more bad decisions.

That is nothing against the player, I am sure, he'd help us. But ffs, not at all cost. So many are recalling Ralf's supposedly suggestion, we would need like 10 new players. Nothing really changed, we still have open issues. Overpaying for players only limits your options. We are already doubling the wages of a soon-to-be 31 y/o to fix midfield, now we are contemplating spending north of 80 million for a RW who has only played in Dutch League while we just have spent a huge amount of cash on Sancho, who was also considered to be the solution for the next 5-6 years.
 

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It's like those stories how they couldn't believe at Shakhtar Donetsk that they're getting 50M pounds for Fred. We're always those idiots.
The big difference here is that ETH knows Antony and Antony knows the system ETH is implementing. Ajax are definitely getting an extremely favourable deal but if he’s the right fit and solves a glaring gap in our team then to me that’s the main thing. We’re also clearly backing out he manager. It doesn’t come without its own risks of course but we’re investing in his philosophy which ultimately is what made Pep and Klopp successful.
 

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Only at United, that we seems to care way too much about fees of players. If we want to be back where we supposed to be (one of the best football club in the world) then it should start from us fans. Have we seen Barca or Madrid fans moan about fees that much when their club buying expensive players?

No, they dont, i mean we fans should be less reasonable sometimes about the club financial side and more demanding and be more spoil with the football we play.

If EtH wants him (for he knows his character, fit his system...etc), then go and buy him even if it cost 100m, and the fees is not even that suprise, i mean we see lots of 100m transfer through the years.
 

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Yes, they haven't quadrupled
Wouldn't be surprised if Suarez would be about €80m if he went to Liverpool, nowadays, so not too far off. That seems to be the going rate for strikers that show any high level quality.
 

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I'm not really sure why people are bothered about transfer fees anymore - they went ridiculous 15 years ago (probably even longer); it has just got more ridiculous.

In the future, when transfers are £500m (a bit exaggerated), everyone would wonder how we got such a bargain back in the day.
 

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as a Feyenoord fan (and MCU enthousiast) I might not be the most objective person to this matter. But still, paying €100mln for a player with these statistics in Eredivisie: 60 games with 18G/13A. It’s just… guys come on! You will realize soon that this player is no where near the level of players/wingers MCU is aiming for. All of Ajax latest transfers: de jong, de ligt, ziyech and van der beek were really really expensive and delivered almost nothong for it in return. In the Netherlands Antony is considered a nice player, sometimes has it and sometimes plain invisible. Statistics proof it, and that in the eredivisie with most clubs you all never heard off like RKC Waalwijk, Excelsior and Cambuur Leeuwarden. I am sure if you will search on Youtube you will come accross nice goals and dribbles, but keep in mind that it is against a club with a 5mln budget and has players on the field that earn 100k. Keep that in mind.
 

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With €100 million we could purchase Gakpo, a RB and possibly another CM. Gakpo, Dest and Tielemans fill multiple needs.
 

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He did pretty well, but he was no Haller :wenger:
Antony is much more than goals or assists though. He’s a special player. The eyes tell you that - as do the stats. That’s based on CL level - he’s elite in numerous categories at the highest level of club football at 21 when he played those games. Yes it’s an inflated fee - so fecking what.

https://fbref.com/en/players/99127249/Antony
 

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Exactly. No one would try to justify a 60-100m fee for Haller on the back if this, though
Haller is 28 and Antony is 22. Ones a striker, one a winger. What point are even trying to make?

You can not like the proposed signing but at least be honest in your critique.
 

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As much as id love him here, €100m is a crazy fee when we need another central midfielder a st and a rb. RW is somewhere we could not fill this season and still be ok, the other positions on the other hand need addressing
 
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