"MLB did their all star game this year. They made $200m from a Monday and a Tuesday, you could do a North vs South all-star game from the Premier League to fund the pyramid very easily."
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Todd Boehly: "You could do a North vs South all-star game from the Premier League to fund the pyramid very easily"
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Is this quote made up?
The FA would be or the football league or the Premier League. Getting insurance would be no more of an issue than it is for any other friendly or testimonial.
Exactly. PL clubs makes lot of money from TV deal, they can just give up very insignificant part of it.
"It's new so I don't like it"
I think it's a fine idea.
No matter how big a rivalry clubs have, most players aren't particularly bothered about it. They get along just fine when they move clubs (e.g., Alonso, Ronaldo at RM or Evra, Tevez after he moved to City). They get along just fine in national teams as well.
I have the same reaction to Boehly as I have towards my 7 year old when he's buzzed up on skittles and fanta, it just like sigh .......... "Jesus H Christ!".
That’s literally the quote I’m talking about. At no point does he talk about funding lower league football, football pyramid includes the premier league.
Why not just take any other part of the football pie to feed the pyramid? If that's actually what anyone wanted they could...
Okay, so he's talking about funding lower league football then because they're part of the pyramid too.
Nobody wants to give their pie away. This would be an additional pie, for everyone to share.
Yes, morally you are right that football clubs could do far more in regards to helping lower league football and clubs aside from an 'all star' game but that's not going to happen. Clubs and owners will always want more, rightly or wrongly and Boehly is offering an example where clubs can get more without anything being taken away.
The worry is the more sweaty American toads coming into ownership the more likely they can ruin things collectively.
*Apart from the serious moral dimension of sportswashing* having self-sufficient owners that do not financially leverage the clubs they are custodians of, and the league thereby, is less damaging to the game than seeing the creation of an American money model of a nothingness.
As much as a despised Roman and think his ownership was bad for the league, I think he was a lot less bad.
*Apart from the serious moral dimension of sportswashing* having self-sufficient owners that do not financially leverage the clubs they are custodians of, and the league thereby, is less damaging to the game than seeing the creation of an American money model of a nothingness.
As much as a despised Roman and think his ownership was bad for the league, I think he was a lot less bad.
I mean it’s pretty obvious what I’m saying, at no point does he state that this match would be something focused on raising funds for lower league football. You replied to my reply to duffer pointing that out
Such a out of touch idea due being a contact sport, it would be a shit viewing, it would be extra game added in already fecked up shedule, its not like you can just drop that game in middle of the week, you need to create fake event around whole thing to attract interest.
Its a plastic idea, then again nothing else can come from owners from US and how they view sport, their attempt for Super league should been enough of a warning. This shit would open a door for new cringefest ideas.
He aint fool mentioning money and pyramid, he knows to play on fake care for lower divisions and soft it with offering money generated from it as initial pass, if you think that would be the case after, when shit starts rolling, you would be a fool. God forbid it sticks a bit and they already in, boom, now you have a product to sell.
Its a plastic idea, then again nothing else can come from owners from US and how they view sport, their attempt for Super league should been enough of a warning. This shit would open a door for new cringefest ideas.
He aint fool mentioning money and pyramid, he knows to play on fake care for lower divisions and soft it with offering money generated from it as initial pass, if you think that would be the case after, when shit starts rolling, you would be a fool. God forbid it sticks a bit and they already in, boom, now you have a product to sell.
Yeah, all this is just good talk. Like @Cascarino said, he said football pyramid and somehow these big clubs will want bigger share from that as they are the one who generated revenue and small fee will be shared with other PL clubs.
This has nothing to do with lower league teams, atleast that's how I understood it.
I dont think its a totally crazy idea - although it wont be a serious match obviously, more like a Testimonial or Soccer Aid
Only issue is fitting it into the hectic schedule but they can replace the Charity Shield with this - no one gives a feck about the Charity Shield nowadays (apart from Jose)
Only issue is fitting it into the hectic schedule but they can replace the Charity Shield with this - no one gives a feck about the Charity Shield nowadays (apart from Jose)
My understanding is that the pyramid includes PL and lower league clubs.
Yes it includes lower league clubs. I believe they won't be seeing much of that money, infact apart from top 6 clubs, other clubs also won't see much of that money.
And you honestly think those paying for that pie to exist / working for it, would just give it away?
I don't think that's more likely than giving any other part of the pie away in the long term.
The all star break in the US is light, low intensity stuff. Apart from the privilege of being selected, the entire event in the NFL and NBA is soccer aid-esque in terms of how the players engage with it and the media covers it. It would be a short lighthearted break in the middle of a very intense season. I think the idea of a north vs south 11 a side game is pretty stupid and uninteresting but a series of 5 a side games and maybe some silly skills and technique competition , I would like to see as a one-off just to see what it would be like.
It's not pointless if the only point is to raise money for grassroots football, and it accomplishes that. I don't know enough about the finances of the American all-star games to know whether they do bring in a sizeable revenue.
This is correct, and why it’s incorrect to say the idea is based on funding the lower leagues. He basically just ends the sentence with “whatever football needs”. I could be technically correct in saying he’s come up with the idea to raise funds for Aberystwyth fc, but substantially I’m still wrong.
There’s very little to go on at the moment, but in the same interview he talks about how all owners want more revenue and there’s untapped potential in the market. So until he adds clarification or some more info there’s nothing to suggest the idea is based on funding lower league football, which I originally thought was the case going by comments.
I don’t know anything about the baseball all star game he talked about in the interview, do you know where the money generated from that goes? that could give a rough idea as to his plans as he does equate the two scenarios
Would mean even more games for the players to play in a season then as well. After UEFA revamped European football with the addition of the conference league it’s increased a lot of teams overall game count per season and adding another couple on would reduce the free time players have between seasons. Then if there’s international tournaments on they will end up burning out.
Not a chance the FA will govern a game where the country is divided in two.
It's worrying he's come out with this bullshittery so early in his tenure. I think he's exposed his true motives. I'm expecting proposals for PL North and South, drafts and all the other crap associated with American sports.
I think you know that's not what I'm saying.
Hahaha yeah my thoughts exactly. You'd think he was suggesting scrapping the offside rule!Bit overdramatic, no?
He's talking about a poxy all star game here, not getting rid of relegation or adding playoffs to the top race ffs.
Yeah I think those of us that watch American sports are less fussed about things like this. The problem is finding the week or so of no games to hold it in if you want it in the middle of the season. If like Silent Witness suggested we have it during pre season that could work better logistically. Personally I'd like to see it too. Imagine we had a free kick completion with jwp, eriksen, Trent, kdb etc. Or a skills/dribbling challenge with Salah,Antony, Sancho, etc Even those complaining would tune in.
I don't think anyone is saying all of the funding goes to lower leagues or would be ignorant to think that. But if even a fraction of it does, it's helping fund the lower leagues and is more than any other owner seems to be doing to try and help find solutions to do so thus far.
I know that a lot of this will be about thinking of how he can profit too, that’s a given, but do people really think that the PL owners are going to be lining up to give away their share of tv money etc. in the game? Of course not. Is that wrong? Yes. Will it change? Probably not.
This, while still an uneasy alternative to some, is a way of getting maximum profit for minimum effort.
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We’re no way near April 1st yet?
I'm for it
You could feck off.
I'm all for funding the pyramid. There's already absolute fortunes going around.
fecking All Star game my arse
I'm all for funding the pyramid. There's already absolute fortunes going around.
fecking All Star game my arse
This is a geezer who suggested Tuchel should play a 443 formation. I don’t think anything that comes out his mouth in regards to football should be taken seriously.
I get the hate for the american way of sports where everything is about ads bigger ads and over the top entertainment that has nothing to do with the sport itself (half time show etc..)
But to be honest it is hypocracy at its finest to call everything they do commercialism/capitalism when they have salary caps and drafts to keep the strength of their leagues balanced while in football states and oligarchs can buy a club and pump infinite money in.
Buying the best players and are able to pay a single player a yearly salary that is worth the same amount than a whole club that is playing in their same league is worth
But to be honest it is hypocracy at its finest to call everything they do commercialism/capitalism when they have salary caps and drafts to keep the strength of their leagues balanced while in football states and oligarchs can buy a club and pump infinite money in.
Buying the best players and are able to pay a single player a yearly salary that is worth the same amount than a whole club that is playing in their same league is worth
I'm pretty sure the Premier League have had hundreds of people that are very knowledgeable about football in the last 20 years.
Why are we now suddenly listening to this Yeti and think "hmmm that sounds good actually"? no it's not. If it was it would have been done 10 years ago.
Why are we now suddenly listening to this Yeti and think "hmmm that sounds good actually"? no it's not. If it was it would have been done 10 years ago.
I'm quite sure that if this suggestion came from somebody other than a brash new American owner, the overall reaction would be different.
Once we have a majority of American owners of PL clubs (5 already MU ARS EV CH LIV) I think they might see this come to pass. Until then he can fk off with his Americanised model of sports.
He was just answering questions at, what I gather, is an American business event. There’s no evidence that anyone important is listening to him. The bit about the all star game was a sort of a one-liner in the middle of a 30 minute interview.
Why must the 3pm broadcast be a lower league match? Is the All-Star game a lower league one? An english broadcaster will pay more for a competitively meaningful PL match than a meaningless exhibition game. Multiply that across a few weeks and you have the compensation for the lower leagues. Isn’t that why 3pm matches are not being broadcasted?
That’s just on this page, on the last page you quoted me when I pointed out to Duffer that this wasn’t the case. There’s loads of people thinking that, and I thought it originally just from the comments in here!
I don’t really disagree with your second point, but I’d need to see what his intentions are. Ending it with “what the pyramid needs” Is quite nebulous, because it could mean PL owners getting more money, or it could be a genuine and sincere effort to get funding to areas where it’s needed.
Refer to my above reply. It’s a far simpler solution.
Edit: FYI - the average PL match apparently cost UK broadcasters £6.6m. Assuming these 3pm matches are worth less, at £4m, that’s still a tidy profit for the PL and football pyramid to share. This of course should be trialled to see how it affects match attendance.
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This is a legitimate concern, for sure. I'd like to see a lot of international friendlies and the Nations League scrapped, personally. International qualifiers could probably be scaled down a fair bit too.