Where's the consistency? VAR was supposed to solve ref's being inconsistent. It's made them worse
VAR and Refs | General Discussion | May 15: Premier League clubs to vote on proposal to scrap VAR from next season
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Where though? High up, low? If it’s above the sleeve it’s not handball. Maybe my stream isn’t great but I genuinely couldn’t see it.
On French TV today I heard that there will no English VAR officials at the World Cup because they don't interpret the rules like the rest of the world.
Don't know if it's true but there have been three inconsistent decisions that I've seen just today.
Don't know if it's true but there have been three inconsistent decisions that I've seen just today.
No fecking way that gets ruled out if it's Everton who scores it. Completely arbitrary. Incompetent cnuts.
Low, like his forearm basically.
Can you explain the West Ham goal then…..no…bore off.
It's so inconsistent and used in such stupid ways that I really don't feel that the game is fairer or better with it. Feels like every game these days is affected negatively by VAR
They're fecking stupid and have to do things differently because they think the rest of the world is interpreting it wrong, not them.
That was the thing for me. Could have been shoulder, chest, upper sleeve. None of which are handball. Whatever happened to VAR needing to be certain to change a decision?
I’m not convinced. Looked like it hit his midriff and on to his chin.
Is there any accountability? They relevant body should explain why Rashford was a foul and WH's not.
And it seemed to be decided within seconds.
He squares it to Bruno for an open goal and it's magically not handball (remember that Boro one against us where the lad was playing basketball before squaring to a teammate?).
Absolutely insane rules. There's no justifying it.
Absolutely insane rules. There's no justifying it.
It wouldn’t be shocking at all if English officials were banned from the World Cup. What we witnessed today is beyond the pale.
You'll have to show me that because no replay has shown it clearly enough to overturn a goal, none that I've seen in any case.
Also ridiculous that if he'd squared it to an unmarked Bruno, it would've stood. Ridiculous rule.
And another also.
Looked high up to me. On HD big screen telly. So high up it looked like it could have been on shirt sleeve.
VAR is a fine idea its just that the rules are written such that it's almost impossible to have consistency. That said calls like the Rashford handball should be made correctly 100% of the time as its objective whether the ball hits his hand/arm. Need more rules like that really or maybe VAR should only judge objective calls like offside and if the ball goes out of play in the lead up to a goal.
That's the one. It's just so clearly, obviously fecking stupid it's untrue.You'll have to show me that because no replay has shown it clearly enough to overturn a goal, none that I've seen in any case.
Also ridiculous that if he'd squared it to an unmarked Bruno, it would've stood. Ridiculous rule.
And another also.
I think that Antonio's goal stood because he missed first shot so it counted as second play.
Don't kill the messanger here. It is idiotic rule
Excellent point.
Isn’t it only handball right before he scores? He still takes it around the keeper after that.
The ridiculous thing about the Boro goal is they got so wrapped up in the "hitting the hand directly leading to a goal" bit that they forgot to actually check whether it was just a normal handball... Which it obviously was.You'll have to show me that because no replay has shown it clearly enough to overturn a goal, none that I've seen in any case.
Also ridiculous that if he'd squared it to an unmarked Bruno, it would've stood. Ridiculous rule.
And another also.
I understand the rule about not allowing a goal where an attacker uses his hand. My problem is that of the replays I saw, i'm not positive that it did hit his hand. I thought the goal should have stood. And as the guy above me stated, it's a very stupid rule considering the goal would have stood had he passed it off...
In that case Pickford’s challenge should rule the handball null and void. The same way but resets for handball. Not only am I not convinced it was handball, I’m not convinced they applied this moronic rule properly.
If rashford passed the goal stands. It makes absolutely no sense
VAR isn't the problem the officials are.
VAR is the officials.
I'd love to have a discussion with the guy who invented that rule, would be interested to hear how he'd try to explain the sanity of the rule.
The Antonio goal posted above? Yes. In between the handball and Antonio scoring there's a save by the goalkeeper and a play of the ball by a defender.
It's fine for you not to understand the difference. But don't post like a prick and tell people to bore off just because you didn't understand the difference.
The law has changed since the Boro goal. It was accidental handball and although it was a bit of a bastard, it was the correct decision.
Just seen Gabriel's handball while facing the ball. No penalty.
Newcastle yesterday the guy weren't even facing the ball. Hits his hand. Penalty
Newcastle yesterday the guy weren't even facing the ball. Hits his hand. Penalty
You can look at it that way if you want to.
But Pickford also played the ball. Deliberately. Is it in the rules that it’s disallowed if one opponent touches the ball but if two do it then it’s ok?
It certainly was not clear and obvious that the ball hit his hand/arm at all, imo. But the check was done very quickly. Really strange decision
No it hasn’t. His hand wasn’t in a natural position.
Gordon. Red card anyone? From behind, studs up, forceful… should’ve been red
Maybe they had an angle that showed it clear that we weren't shown??
Nothing to see here. Just hide from any questions from journalist or media. Without need to explaining anything. Just hide. And lets do it again and again and again.
I've written 1000 times. There need to be mic on referees and in VAR room who makes decisions. There should even be camera. Because this is beyond anything. Trust for fair refereeing is just gone for many. You have multi billion industry and yet they are making up rules as it goes.
I've written 1000 times. There need to be mic on referees and in VAR room who makes decisions. There should even be camera. Because this is beyond anything. Trust for fair refereeing is just gone for many. You have multi billion industry and yet they are making up rules as it goes.
There’s no other to way look at it. VAR isn’t a sentient being.
It was the correct call. Deal with it and move on.